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Post by gasgomarchingin on Aug 4, 2021 19:41:19 GMT
Oh dear..
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Post by The Concept on Aug 4, 2021 19:53:49 GMT
A few of the replies on the original tweet by a guy in Brooklyn NY, (not Frosty's retweet):
- "Who’s their data provider though? Opta or the magistrates courts?" (a fell runner).
- "Salary - one punch in the face per month from Joey Barton." (an Arsenal fan).
- "Joke of a club, who fell further down in my estimations by not suspending Barton straight away and their shambles of a statement". (another Arsenal fan).
So anyone who thinks our reputation around the country (and the world) hasn't been damaged, may need to think again.
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Post by JeffNZ on Aug 4, 2021 21:31:22 GMT
Internship = Modern-day slavery or jobs for those with wealthy parents. Either way not a good look for the club. But then it's not like we've had any bad press recently.  |
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Post by swissgas on Aug 4, 2021 22:17:48 GMT
I hope the team playing in this elite football environment don’t score as many own goals as the “executives” running the business.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 5, 2021 11:29:26 GMT
One word and it is very true, TINPOT.
What the hell is happening at the club I grew up with ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 13:05:18 GMT
Internships are perfectly standard business practice. So its fine across the whole business world (except when we do it its bad) Brilliant  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 5, 2021 13:14:46 GMT
Internships are perfectly standard business practice. So its fine across the whole business world (except when we do it its bad) Brilliant I believe the norm is 4 weeks unpaid as the standard and, if you look at the particulars of the job then it’s much more than just a data grabber. If you are happy with it and Waels Curt reply then fair enough, maybe you could apply ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 13:38:07 GMT
Internships are perfectly standard business practice. So its fine across the whole business world (except when we do it its bad) Brilliant I believe the norm is 4 weeks unpaid as the standard and, if you look at the particulars of the job then it’s much more than just a data grabber. If you are happy with it and Waels Curt reply then fair enough, maybe you could apply ? Internships are for anything up to a year KP. Think of all the money we are saving doing it this way though - and following a path of controlling expenditure just like many on here have suggested. Whats not to like  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 5, 2021 14:51:40 GMT
I believe the norm is 4 weeks unpaid as the standard and, if you look at the particulars of the job then it’s much more than just a data grabber. If you are happy with it and Waels Curt reply then fair enough, maybe you could apply ? Internships are for anything up to a year KP. Think of all the money we are saving doing it this way though - and following a path of controlling expenditure just like many on here have suggested. Whats not to like Apply then. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 15:34:35 GMT
Internships are for anything up to a year KP. Think of all the money we are saving doing it this way though - and following a path of controlling expenditure just like many on here have suggested. Whats not to like Apply then. Not my field of expertise I'm afraid, in gainful employment & too old I fear. (Although I rather wish I was student age) |
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Post by chelt_gas on Aug 5, 2021 23:37:46 GMT
I don't know why they delegate these tasks to some of the players. If some of the senior guys have aspirations of coaching then why not give them some work experience in data analytics.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 6, 2021 7:34:01 GMT
I don't know why they delegate these tasks to some of the players. If some of the senior guys have aspirations of coaching then why not give them some work experience in data analytics. Now there’s an idea and we could get the players to act like the Liverpool of old and develop a boot room philosophy |
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Post by trymer on Aug 6, 2021 10:21:57 GMT
I don't know why they delegate these tasks to some of the players. If some of the senior guys have aspirations of coaching then why not give them some work experience in data analytics. Now there’s an idea and we could get the players to act like the Liverpool of old and develop a boot room philosophy Well they have someone from Liverpool with a put the boot in philosophy. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 14:27:02 GMT
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Post by The Concept on Aug 6, 2021 19:08:45 GMT
I don't know why they delegate these tasks to some of the players. If some of the senior guys have aspirations of coaching then why not give them some work experience in data analytics. It's not a bad idea actually. The career of a professional footballer is a short one. There are many who want to stay involved in the game after their playing days are over. Some go into management, some coaching, others the commentary, punditry, or the sporting media in general, so perhaps a career as a data analyst might be another career that would interest some players. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 19:20:34 GMT
I don't know why they delegate these tasks to some of the players. If some of the senior guys have aspirations of coaching then why not give them some work experience in data analytics. It's not a bad idea actually. The career of a professional footballer is a short one. There are many who want to stay involved in the game after their playing days are over. Some go into management, some coaching, others the commentary, punditry, or the sporting media in general, so perhaps a career as a data analyst might interest some players. Seems that pro footballers are too busy going bankrupt to have time to get involved in things like data analytics. www.moneynest.co.uk/bankrupt-footballers/But seriously, that's a worrying number, 40% of professional footballers ending up in serious financial trouble. |
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Post by The Concept on Aug 6, 2021 20:24:33 GMT
It's not a bad idea actually. The career of a professional footballer is a short one. There are many who want to stay involved in the game after their playing days are over. Some go into management, some coaching, others the commentary, punditry, or the sporting media in general, so perhaps a career as a data analyst might interest some players. Seems that pro footballers are too busy going bankrupt to have time to get involved in things like data analytics. www.moneynest.co.uk/bankrupt-footballers/But seriously, that's a worrying number, 40% of professional footballers ending up in serious financial trouble. When I worked in banking, 20 years ago or so, I was on 'bad debts' for a while. I soon found out that many of the people sitting in front of me, needing to arrange a repayment plan, or ended up getting their accounts sent to debt recovery, weren't the ones you'd expect to see. They should never have found themselves in the situation they did; if anything they should have been racking up their savings. They say people live to their means, and I think many get carried away and live well above their means. You'd go through their income/expenditure plan and despair at the flash gear, HP, loans, multi credit cards trying to pay each other off. For those living on the bread-line it is sad when they struggle; for those on a good salary it is careless, reckless. I always thought financial management/awareness was just common sense. Perhaps it's something that should be taught at school. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 20:45:53 GMT
Seems that pro footballers are too busy going bankrupt to have time to get involved in things like data analytics. www.moneynest.co.uk/bankrupt-footballers/But seriously, that's a worrying number, 40% of professional footballers ending up in serious financial trouble. When I worked in banking, 20 years ago or so, I was on 'bad debts' for a while. I soon found out that many of the people sitting in front of me, needing to arrange a repayment plan, or ended up getting their accounts sent to debt recovery, weren't the ones you'd expect to see. They should never have found themselves in the situation they did; if anything they should have been racking up their savings. They say people live to their means, and I think many get carried away and live well above their means. You'd go through their income/expenditure plan and despair at the flash gear, HP, loans, multi credit cards trying to pay each other off. For those living on the bread-line it is sad when they struggle; for those on a good salary it is careless, reckless. I always though financial management/awareness was just common sense. Perhaps it's something that should be taught at school. People sure are complex when it comes to finances. I once helped someone clear a debt, I negotiated a settlement with a card company and got it cleared away for him, he immediately went and ran up the same amount of debt again on stuff that he just didn't need. So I asked why he had done that, he replied that he would rather go to his grave having lived well on other people's money than live within his means. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 10:08:59 GMT
Internships are perfectly standard business practice. So its fine across the whole business world (except when we do it its bad) Brilliant Well, I've given links to the what Liverpool and Man Utd do, and neither expect people to work for free. Maybe what Rovers are asking is normal amongst other lower League clubs, I don't know, can you show whether it is or isn't please, then we can all form an informed opinion. Thanks. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 7, 2021 12:14:48 GMT
It's not a bad idea actually. The career of a professional footballer is a short one. There are many who want to stay involved in the game after their playing days are over. Some go into management, some coaching, others the commentary, punditry, or the sporting media in general, so perhaps a career as a data analyst might interest some players. Seems that pro footballers are too busy going bankrupt to have time to get involved in things like data analytics. www.moneynest.co.uk/bankrupt-footballers/But seriously, that's a worrying number, 40% of professional footballers ending up in serious financial trouble. Having known a fair few footballers from Bristol, it’s very difficult for those who never made it to prem or championship and many become mentally ill and get into financial problems. I had a long talk with Graham Day RIP, when he was landlord of the flowerpot and he was very open. It’s very easy to forget a player who never made it big, we then have those crazies who make it but blow it. A funny old game indeed |
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