kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 1, 2021 15:40:20 GMT
Odd really as Readings forum seemed unhappy to see him go. Maybe wrong place and wrong time. Much was written of his technique and footballing ability, that doesn’t just disappear so I think we will hear of him again. Some players just don’t do well either away from their area or in a dysfunctional one. I say good luck to the lad.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 1, 2021 17:21:10 GMT
Josh Barrett sacked He was only on the calendar for 11 hours.. We would of been better off signing a sack of s***. At least we could of sold that to Forest Green Rovers,to nurture their field of play. didn’t Joey remark at some point early on, he was excited by Barrett’s skills in training? is there not an argument he never got a run in the side? My theory is, when managers want to play at squad building, they are looking at the weekly wage not the training ground. That’s what really happens isn’t it?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 1, 2021 18:42:07 GMT
Josh Barrel leaves in a similar way Kyle Bennett sat on his contract.
Has any other top 4 league club had similar in such a short space of time?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 1, 2021 18:44:52 GMT
Odd really as Readings forum seemed unhappy to see him go. Maybe wrong place and wrong time. Much was written of his technique and footballing ability, that doesn’t just disappear so I think we will hear of him again. Some players just don’t do well either away from their area or in a dysfunctional one. I say good luck to the lad. I'm sorry Kp, I think you've given far too much humility there....I can't remember seeing a player being signed and so obviously unfit and more importantly appearing to be unwilling to fight back for his place? He doesn't deserve to be a professional footballer if the last 18 months are indicative. I'm glad he's far away from our club, we don't need this.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 1, 2021 18:52:55 GMT
We would of been better off signing a sack of s***. At least we could of sold that to Forest Green Rovers,to nurture their field of play. My theory is, when managers want to play at squad building, they are looking at the weekly wage not the training ground. That’s what really happens isn’t it? I think it was, certainly in BG case. There was a marked difference in reducing the wage bill (which BG achieved with phenomenal success), but the replacements had just as much on pitch detrimental effect. Phenomenal failure. Can't remember JAB commenting on JB training, but he's hardly gonna say he was a pile of steamies is he? Hang on though... 🤔
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 1, 2021 22:02:50 GMT
My theory is, when managers want to play at squad building, they are looking at the weekly wage not the training ground. That’s what really happens isn’t it? I think it was, certainly in BG case. There was a marked difference in reducing the wage bill (which BG achieved with phenomenal success), but the replacements had just as much on pitch detrimental effect. Phenomenal failure. Can't remember JAB commenting on JB training, but he's hardly gonna say he was a pile of steamies is he? Hang on though... 🤔 Can I add though, where would Souness be without Dauglish? For all the criticism of Westbrook and Barrell, it needs someone to make key passes or you will often end up with nothing for all your grunting. Whoever dubbed him Josh Barrel overlooks Gazza played with the same build, and his passing game was a work of art.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 2, 2021 9:47:30 GMT
I think it was, certainly in BG case. There was a marked difference in reducing the wage bill (which BG achieved with phenomenal success), but the replacements had just as much on pitch detrimental effect. Phenomenal failure. Can't remember JAB commenting on JB training, but he's hardly gonna say he was a pile of steamies is he? Hang on though... 🤔 Can I add though, where would Souness be without Dauglish? For all the criticism of Westbrook and Barrell, it needs someone to make key passes or you will often end up with nothing for all your grunting. Whoever dubbed him Josh Barrel overlooks Gazza played with the same build, and his passing game was a work of art. Totally agree with the passing game. Sumptuous to watch.....but there's a huge difference between Gazza whom loves the game throughout, and Barrel that just couldn't get fit but was happy taking a wage for 18months. Begone. Utter disaster. JAB definitely made the right decision in getting rid....or was it TW ? Hmmmmm ... 🤔
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 2, 2021 10:44:45 GMT
Can I add though, where would Souness be without Dauglish? For all the criticism of Westbrook and Barrell, it needs someone to make key passes or you will often end up with nothing for all your grunting. Whoever dubbed him Josh Barrel overlooks Gazza played with the same build, and his passing game was a work of art. Totally agree with the passing game. Sumptuous to watch.....but there's a huge difference between Gazza whom loves the game throughout, and Barrel that just couldn't get fit but was happy taking a wage for 18months. Begone. Utter disaster. JAB definitely made the right decision in getting rid....or was it TW ? Hmmmmm ... 🤔 No doubt it’s currently B***** in complete utter control. But is it like the end of Lawrence Of Arabia where the Brits just sit quietly in the background, until it’s utter disgrace before they resume control again?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 2, 2021 11:22:41 GMT
Totally agree with the passing game. Sumptuous to watch.....but there's a huge difference between Gazza whom loves the game throughout, and Barrel that just couldn't get fit but was happy taking a wage for 18months. Begone. Utter disaster. JAB definitely made the right decision in getting rid....or was it TW ? Hmmmmm ... 🤔 No doubt it’s currently B***** in complete utter control. But is it like the end of Lawrence Of Arabia where the Brits just sit quietly in the background, until it’s utter disgrace before they resume control again? It depends how much and to what depth of an utter disgrace our leader is prepared to put up with.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 2, 2021 12:03:34 GMT
Odd really as Readings forum seemed unhappy to see him go. Maybe wrong place and wrong time. Much was written of his technique and footballing ability, that doesn’t just disappear so I think we will hear of him again. Some players just don’t do well either away from their area or in a dysfunctional one. I say good luck to the lad. I'm sorry Kp, I think you've given far too much humility there....I can't remember seeing a player being signed and so obviously unfit and more importantly appearing to be unwilling to fight back for his place? He doesn't deserve to be a professional footballer if the last 18 months are indicative. I'm glad he's far away from our club, we don't need this. Garry Kenneth. Josh has obvious potential but , for some reason, it hasn’t worked out here
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 8, 2021 7:52:13 GMT
Do we think we have seen the last of Luke Thomas?
The lad has clearly been struggling for confidence and homesickness.
I hope he can turn this round for any team let alone us.
I just have a feeling it may not be good news.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 8, 2021 8:28:01 GMT
Do we think we have seen the last of Luke Thomas? The lad has clearly been struggling for confidence and homesickness. I hope he can turn this round for any team let alone us. I just have a feeling it may not be good news. Looked good in spats, hope he stays and does well here
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Post by irenestoyboy on Sept 9, 2021 11:39:55 GMT
I think it was, certainly in BG case. There was a marked difference in reducing the wage bill (which BG achieved with phenomenal success), but the replacements had just as much on pitch detrimental effect. Phenomenal failure. Can't remember JAB commenting on JB training, but he's hardly gonna say he was a pile of steamies is he? Hang on though... 🤔 Can I add though, where would Souness be without Dauglish? For all the criticism of Westbrook and Barrell, it needs someone to make key passes or you will often end up with nothing for all your grunting. Whoever dubbed him Josh Barrel overlooks Gazza played with the same build, and his passing game was a work of art. Gazza had vision, skill, technique and still used to run yards and yards, same with Rooney who also had the same build and also the desire to play at the top of their game. You cant ever compare them with Barrett who never looked fit or interested and had none of the other attributes either.
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Post by alanrg on Sept 9, 2021 16:02:24 GMT
When Barrett was on loan at Coventry a couple of years ago there fans warned us about him saying he was unfit and overweight they were proved right
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Post by gasprom on Sept 9, 2021 23:26:24 GMT
When Barrett was on loan at Coventry a couple of years ago there fans warned us about him saying he was unfit and overweight they were proved right It makes you wonder what was going on behind the scenes that season. Coughlan clearly wanted Liam Scales (now Celtic) but that broke down at our end. He quit before the jan window opened after saying he’d taken the club as far as he can and wasn’t being backed, before our recruitment department spent money on Barrett, Daly and Harries, two of which we’ve likely had to pay to leave again. Whatever the politics, there was clearly a disconnect between the manager and recruiter, and hindsight would say Wael backed the wrong horse there
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Post by irenestoyboy on Sept 10, 2021 4:52:39 GMT
When Barrett was on loan at Coventry a couple of years ago there fans warned us about him saying he was unfit and overweight they were proved right It makes you wonder what was going on behind the scenes that season. Coughlan clearly wanted Liam Scales (now Celtic) but that broke down at our end. He quit before the jan window opened after saying he’d taken the club as far as he can and wasn’t being backed, before our recruitment department spent money on Barrett, Daly and Harries, two of which we’ve likely had to pay to leave again. Whatever the politics, there was clearly a disconnect between the manager and recruiter, and hindsight would say Wael backed the wrong horse there That’s an invented narrative. GC never quit stating those reasons. His head was turned by a lucrative offer by Mansfield in the run up to the Ipswich game and rather than keep his mouth shut and discuss the matter behind closed doors he shot his mouth off in a radio interview and made his own position untenable. Scales was never scouted properly, was a kid who had just had an injury when we were looking at him.
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Post by gasprom on Sept 10, 2021 6:24:26 GMT
It makes you wonder what was going on behind the scenes that season. Coughlan clearly wanted Liam Scales (now Celtic) but that broke down at our end. He quit before the jan window opened after saying he’d taken the club as far as he can and wasn’t being backed, before our recruitment department spent money on Barrett, Daly and Harries, two of which we’ve likely had to pay to leave again. Whatever the politics, there was clearly a disconnect between the manager and recruiter, and hindsight would say Wael backed the wrong horse there That’s an invented narrative. GC never quit stating those reasons. His head was turned by a lucrative offer by Mansfield in the run up to the Ipswich game and rather than keep his mouth shut and discuss the matter behind closed doors he shot his mouth off in a radio interview and made his own position untenable. Scales was never scouted properly, was a kid who had just had an injury when we were looking at him. He said he’d taken the club as far as he can in his interview post Ipswich. Others reported he’d said he wasn’t being backed and it’s supposition on my part that that’s what “taken the club as far as I can” means. If Liam Scales wasn’t scouted properly then fair enough. Thank God we sorted that out and did due diligence on Barrett, Daly and Harries that January then
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Post by baselswh on Sept 10, 2021 6:39:07 GMT
That’s an invented narrative. GC never quit stating those reasons. His head was turned by a lucrative offer by Mansfield in the run up to the Ipswich game and rather than keep his mouth shut and discuss the matter behind closed doors he shot his mouth off in a radio interview and made his own position untenable. Scales was never scouted properly, was a kid who had just had an injury when we were looking at him. He said he’d taken the club as far as he can in his interview post Ipswich. Others reported he’d said he wasn’t being backed and it’s supposition on my part that that’s what “taken the club as far as I can” means. If Liam Scales wasn’t scouted properly then fair enough. Thank God we sorted that out and did due diligence on Barrett, Daly and Harries that January then Whatever the exact reason,I believe WAQ could of done more to keep GC. The GC exit,while we were in the thick of a promotion challenge is one of the biggest disasters to happen at Rovers. Not the same detail,but real self destruction Third Lanark stuff. I think WAQ displayed useless decision making.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 7:53:43 GMT
He said he’d taken the club as far as he can in his interview post Ipswich. Others reported he’d said he wasn’t being backed and it’s supposition on my part that that’s what “taken the club as far as I can” means. If Liam Scales wasn’t scouted properly then fair enough. Thank God we sorted that out and did due diligence on Barrett, Daly and Harries that January then Whatever the exact reason,I believe WAQ could of done more to keep GC. The GC exit,while we were in the thick of a promotion challenge is one of the biggest disasters to happen at Rovers. Not the same detail,but real self destruction Third Lanark stuff. I think WAQ displayed useless decision making. Absolutely nothing of similarity to the murder of Third Lanark.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 10, 2021 8:10:09 GMT
Whatever the exact reason,I believe WAQ could of done more to keep GC. The GC exit,while we were in the thick of a promotion challenge is one of the biggest disasters to happen at Rovers. Not the same detail,but real self destruction Third Lanark stuff. I think WAQ displayed useless decision making. Absolutely nothing of similarity to the murder of Third Lanark. Accepted not the best analogy and I respect your knowledge and family connection to the Third Dr F. "Not the same detail" My point being much more nonsense like 'allowing' GC to go ,bang smack in the middle of a promotion battle,may see us end up like Third Lanark.
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