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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 20:22:12 GMT
Good grief. This is how professional our communication is. Today we still have Garner named as our manager on the club's supporters' charter, which by the way could do with tidying up, I'm no expert but can see some grammar issues. www.bristolrovers.co.uk/contentassets/6e1232a5072a49729d5c3c18476d8a4d/charter2021.pdfIt also suggests in the 'Introduction' section that the club consults supporters regularly via the SC. Maybe I've missed something but the last I heard our SC elected representative was kicked out of the board room and we no longer had any representation via the Share Scheme. I thought that the relationship between the SC and the FC was 'frosty' at best. But maybe it's better now and they have both just not communicated that on any of the platforms that I'm active on? Ken clearly forgot to leave the operation manual of the fax machine on his way out the door... As you've brought Ken up, that reminds me, weren't you going to stand for his position? What's the latest news with that please?
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Post by gastower on May 5, 2021 20:52:21 GMT
I heard that he had been banned from standing because of the abhorrent post concerning the late gasincider made on gaschat 16th January Apparently he was told his views were extremely inappropriate and unbecoming of anyone seeking to represent the Supporters Club and its members Now I know you will find this hard to believe TWD but in an email on the 19th he wrote “I have absolutely no problem with your decision” I can’t work out TWD why he hasn’t advised all his followers,any ideas?
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Post by a more piratey game on May 5, 2021 21:13:38 GMT
I heard that he had been banned from standing because of the abhorrent post concerning the late gasincider made on gaschat 16th January Apparently he was told his views were extremely inappropriate and unbecoming of anyone seeking to represent the Supporters Club and its members Now I know you will find this hard to believe TWD but in an email on the 19th he wrote “I have absolutely no problem with your decision” I can’t work out TWD why he hasn’t advised all his followers,any ideas? 'followers'? he might be a naughty boy, but I've not seen anything to suggest that he thinks he's the messiah
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Post by gastower on May 5, 2021 21:15:16 GMT
Thank you Brian
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Post by a more piratey game on May 5, 2021 21:16:15 GMT
whatever happened to him? does he still rock up at the Mem, insofar as anyone can nowadays?
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Post by a more piratey game on May 5, 2021 21:17:53 GMT
whatever happened to him? does he still rock up at the Mem, insofar as anyone can nowadays? actually, now you mention it, you've created a bit of a dynasty myth should ITB ever get elected. And I can think of ways in which it would be fitting
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 5, 2021 22:10:18 GMT
I heard that he had been banned from standing because of the abhorrent post concerning the late gasincider made on gaschat 16th January Apparently he was told his views were extremely inappropriate and unbecoming of anyone seeking to represent the Supporters Club and its members Now I know you will find this hard to believe TWD but in an email on the 19th he wrote “I have absolutely no problem with your decision” I can’t work out TWD why he hasn’t advised all his followers,any ideas? I would have thought neither of the two, who were looking to stand, would have any chance as it’s a much more complex thing and has a set of rules that many would not come up to muster.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 6, 2021 17:15:00 GMT
Brilliant stuff. Interesting to see how this will be twisted to be somehow bad news. I’m not going to twist it, I’m going to call it unbelievable bollocks. ive never known this club hierarchy less communicative, quite as evasive and out of touch with the fan base.
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Post by vaughan on May 6, 2021 17:34:10 GMT
Brilliant stuff. Interesting to see how this will be twisted to be somehow bad news. I’m not going to twist it, I’m going to call it unbelievable bollocks. ive never known this club hierarchy less communicative, quite as evasive and out of touch with the fan base. So have you seen the latest MS interview? Your comment was impeccably timed.
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Post by The Concept on May 6, 2021 18:30:44 GMT
Well this really is excellent news to hear that we are now ranked 18th in these results, and having risen all the way from 83rd - something to celebrate.
Personally it was slightly baffling to start with for me, as I can't say I've noticed all that much difference to previous years, and certainly surprising to see it warrants a jump of 65 places in the table.
First thoughts were either: did we put ourselves down in previous years (forget to submit things in the survey that we'd done), or had the other clubs got significantly sh*tter in their Fan Engagement.
From the article, the things that we did last year were: Fan Forum at The Mem in February; Fan Forum via Zoom in July; open letters written by the Chair and CEO; Fans Surveys, and a new Club Charter.
I'm sure we've done some of that previous years. Shows there can't be much between the football clubs, and it doesn't take a huge amount to move up the table. Hopefully this can continue and we can climb further in the future.
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Post by vaughan on May 6, 2021 20:20:26 GMT
Maybe the Club knew deep down that they could be relegated, so worked assiduously to rise up the Fans Engagement Index in dramatic fashion, in an desperate attempt to mask the shame of relegation? Nothing more than a deflection tactic on behalf of the Club.
It's the sort of theory that might have legs..
Note use of "the" in preference to "our".
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Post by warehamgas on May 6, 2021 20:35:22 GMT
Well this really is excellent news to hear that we are now ranked 18th in these results, and having risen all the way from 83rd - something to celebrate. Personally it was slightly baffling to start with for me, as I can't say I've noticed all that much difference to previous years, and certainly surprising to see it warrants a jump of 65 places in the table. First thoughts were either: did we put ourselves down in previous years (forget to submit things in the survey that we'd done), or had the other clubs got significantly sh*tter in their Fan Engagement. From the article, the things that we did last year were: Fan Forum at The Mem in February; Fan Forum via Zoom in July; open letters written by the Chair and CEO; Fans Surveys, and a new Club Charter. I'm sure we've done some of that previous years. Shows there can't be much between the football clubs, and it doesn't take a huge amount to move up the table. Hopefully this can continue and we can climb further in the future. I think it’s good news but it did refer to the 2019-20 season and not the season just finishing. UTG!
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Post by axegas on May 6, 2021 21:09:17 GMT
I heard that he had been banned from standing because of the abhorrent post concerning the late gasincider made on gaschat 16th January Apparently he was told his views were extremely inappropriate and unbecoming of anyone seeking to represent the Supporters Club and its members Now I know you will find this hard to believe TWD but in an email on the 19th he wrote “I have absolutely no problem with your decision” I can’t work out TWD why he hasn’t advised all his followers,any ideas? The fans director shouldn’t represent the supporters club and its politics, it should represent the fans. It’s high time that as supporters we get a bit of honesty and transparency from dealings at board level when appropriate.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 21:14:34 GMT
I heard that he had been banned from standing because of the abhorrent post concerning the late gasincider made on gaschat 16th January Apparently he was told his views were extremely inappropriate and unbecoming of anyone seeking to represent the Supporters Club and its members Now I know you will find this hard to believe TWD but in an email on the 19th he wrote “I have absolutely no problem with your decision” I can’t work out TWD why he hasn’t advised all his followers,any ideas? The fans director shouldn’t represent the supporters club and its politics, it should represent the fans. It’s high time that as supporters we get a bit of honesty and transparency from dealings at board level when appropriate. The supporters club own the shares which permit two full directors to sit on the board so those two places should be filled by representatives of the Supporters Club on behalf of the share scheme members who paid for the shares all of which were supporters club members. There is a legal agreement in place covering this. There is nothing stopping the board inviting additional supporters representation though.
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Post by axegas on May 6, 2021 21:17:34 GMT
The fans director shouldn’t represent the supporters club and its politics, it should represent the fans. It’s high time that as supporters we get a bit of honesty and transparency from dealings at board level when appropriate. The supporters club own the shares which permit two full directors to sit on the board so those two places should be filled by representatives of the Supporters Club on behalf of the share scheme members who paid for the shares all of which were supporters club members. There is a legal agreement in place covering this. There is nothing stopping the board inviting additional supporters representation though. The supporters club is meant to represent and act on behalf of the fans, so the primary role of any candidate should be fan representation first, and supporters club organisational interests second. That was my general point.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 21:32:10 GMT
The supporters club own the shares which permit two full directors to sit on the board so those two places should be filled by representatives of the Supporters Club on behalf of the share scheme members who paid for the shares all of which were supporters club members. There is a legal agreement in place covering this. There is nothing stopping the board inviting additional supporters representation though. The supporters club is meant to represent and act on behalf of the fans, so the primary role of any candidate should be fan representation first, and supporters club organisational interests second. That was my general point. This one has been done to death but the reality is the Supporters Club represents its members.
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Post by axegas on May 6, 2021 21:38:25 GMT
The supporters club is meant to represent and act on behalf of the fans, so the primary role of any candidate should be fan representation first, and supporters club organisational interests second. That was my general point. This one has been done to death but the reality is the Supporters Club represents its members. It has and I won’t go further Pop. On another note, does the dilution of the supporters clubs shares following the issuing of new ones recently, change that legal agreement in any meaningful way?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 21:44:59 GMT
This one has been done to death but the reality is the Supporters Club represents its members. It has and I won’t go further Pop. On another note, does the dilution of the supporters clubs shares following the issuing of new ones recently, change that legal agreement in any meaningful way? Other than ensuring that the Supporters Club will never achieve the share schemes objective of obtaining enough shares to block any major changes to the clubs structure or ground ownership no. If Wael wants a certain individual from the fanbase to become a supporters director then he could invite that person onto the board. I can't see that it would be greeted with negativity, depending on the individual, and would be great PR. It might get the SC to pull their fingers out and get their directors elected.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2021 12:32:51 GMT
Maybe the Club knew deep down that they could be relegated, so worked assiduously to rise up the Fans Engagement Index in dramatic fashion, in an desperate attempt to mask the shame of relegation? Nothing more than a deflection tactic on behalf of the Club. It's the sort of theory that might have legs.. Note use of "the" in preference to "our". I noticed that but I wasn’t surprised. It’s not like he is gas. It is purely business and he talks of it in that manner
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Post by trymer on May 7, 2021 13:02:09 GMT
These open letters and cosy interviews with the clubs employees are nowhere near as good as letting the fans ask questions of the people running the show. Twentyman says he wants to get them on the radio but it seems that they dont like the idea.
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