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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 19:17:23 GMT
Even if the poll ended up equal, what kind of position is that when from a selection of people who all want the club to win every game only 50% can bring themselves to support the person in charge of the team.
This sort of nonsense is usually reserved from clubs run as badly as Newcastle, where the owner treats the supporters with nothing short of contempt and a 'I know better than you' attitude.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 19:32:44 GMT
Even if the poll ended up equal, what kind of position is that when from a selection of people who all want the club to win every game only 50% can bring themselves to support the person in charge of the team. This sort of nonsense is usually reserved from clubs run as badly as Newcastle, where the owner treats the supporters with nothing short of contempt and a 'I know better than you' attitude. On Gaschat the numbers are something like ~130 for and ~18 against. Doesn’t bother me though, you just have to look at Nazi Germany to see what populism can produce. And those 130+’s vote is going to be very fickle indeed if B***** doesn’t start next season we’ll. Playing the long game in a years time I reckon most fans of this club will be back to calling B***** a thug and a w****r and will have conveniently forgot how they loved his passion and lapped up every word that came out of his mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 19:40:03 GMT
Even if the poll ended up equal, what kind of position is that when from a selection of people who all want the club to win every game only 50% can bring themselves to support the person in charge of the team. This sort of nonsense is usually reserved from clubs run as badly as Newcastle, where the owner treats the supporters with nothing short of contempt and a 'I know better than you' attitude. On Gaschat the numbers are something like ~130 for and ~18 against. Doesn’t bother me though, you just have to look at Nazi Germany to see what populism can produce. And those 130+’s vote is going to be very fickle indeed if B***** doesn’t start next season we’ll. Playing the long game in a years time I reckon most fans of this club will be back to calling B***** a thug and a w****r and will have conveniently forgot how they loved his passion and lapped up every word that came out of his mouth. Anything on the other forum will be because if you don't agree with the mob over there you get harassed and insulted until you just give up and leave, so it won't be representative of the entire support base. The reasons for what happened in Germany are well documented, we can discuss that in the correct section if you like.
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 4, 2021 19:56:18 GMT
WMGAS I think you miss the point. Gerry Francis put together a squad. None of the players at the end of the promotion season was in the team of the year.
If forums existed then each signing would have been pilloried
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 20:05:34 GMT
On Gaschat the numbers are something like ~130 for and ~18 against. Doesn’t bother me though, you just have to look at Nazi Germany to see what populism can produce. And those 130+’s vote is going to be very fickle indeed if B***** doesn’t start next season we’ll. Playing the long game in a years time I reckon most fans of this club will be back to calling B***** a thug and a w****r and will have conveniently forgot how they loved his passion and lapped up every word that came out of his mouth. Anything on the other forum will be because if you don't agree with the mob over there you get harassed and insulted until you just give up and leave, so it won't be representative of the entire support base. The reasons for what happened in Germany are well documented, we can discuss that in the correct section if you like. The point is that just because something is popular doesn’t make it good or correct. I’ll use a more trite analogy if people prefer: Robbie Williams has sold millions of records, but I think you’ll be waiting a long time to see any of his albums in a list of the best ever made.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 20:09:56 GMT
WMGAS I think you miss the point. Gerry Francis put together a squad. None of the players at the end of the promotion season was in the team of the year. If forums existed then each signing would have been pilloried Yeah because they were more than the sum of their parts- it’s the inverse of the recruitment here where Widdrington or whoever saw that Ehmer had won more headers than anyone else so putting him in a team with a guy who had the highest pass completion would be a great idea right? What the statistics failed to highlight was that both of those players in the same team was the recipe for decline. You can’t lay that all at Garner’s door. As I said, how come Hanlan was identified as a good centre forward to replace JCH?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 20:38:50 GMT
Anything on the other forum will be because if you don't agree with the mob over there you get harassed and insulted until you just give up and leave, so it won't be representative of the entire support base. The reasons for what happened in Germany are well documented, we can discuss that in the correct section if you like. The point is that just because something is popular doesn’t make it good or correct. I’ll use a more trite analogy if people prefer: Robbie Williams has sold millions of records, but I think you’ll be waiting a long time to see any of his albums in a list of the best ever made. Absolutely, I'm aware that an argumentum ad populum is a fallacious proposition, but we are talking about an opinion poll here I thought? Robbie Williams sucks, but that 'Rock DJ' video was quite clever.
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Post by womble on Apr 4, 2021 23:08:55 GMT
What does that mean? Stop being cryptic and spell it out. If we can get two good results this week then I think B***** will lay off lambasting the club and concentrate on the football. If we don’t then I suspect he will step it up a gear and we will hear what he really thinks of the training facilities. Well he’s used to Fleetwood’s who have training facilities second only to Sunderland in our division, and theirs would stand comparison with most in the championship.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2021 23:36:24 GMT
Even if the poll ended up equal, what kind of position is that when from a selection of people who all want the club to win every game only 50% can bring themselves to support the person in charge of the team. This sort of nonsense is usually reserved from clubs run as badly as Newcastle, where the owner treats the supporters with nothing short of contempt and a 'I know better than you' attitude. Doesn’t really matter what the poll says when, at the time I posted this, a total of 51 people had voted. Not representative of anything, just a group of bored men and women with nothing better to do sounding off! 😉 UTG!
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 5, 2021 7:01:09 GMT
Manager | P | W | D | L | W % | PPG | Darrell Clarke | 246 | 104 | 56 | 86 | 42.3% | 1.50 | Graham Coughlan | 56 | 25 | 18 | 13 | 44.6% | 1.66 | Ben Garner | 34 | 7 | 10 | 17 | 20.6% | 0.91 | Paul Tisdale | 19 | 5 | 3 | 11 | 26.3% | 0.95 | Joey B***** | 11 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 18.2% | 0.64 |
Joey B***** should be removed as manager now, having not only failed to improve results, but presided over their worsening. We're better with a caretaker already employed by the club, as the evidence bears out. B***** out. No, can't do it when he hasn't had a transfer window, don't be daft.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 7:05:47 GMT
No, can't do it when he hasn't had a transfer window, don't be daft. A fair point, of course, but I wouldn't trust this man with a transfer window. Does the transfer window open before he goes to jail?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 5, 2021 8:59:54 GMT
No, can't do it when he hasn't had a transfer window, don't be daft. A fair point, of course, but I wouldn't trust this man with a transfer window. Does the transfer window open before he goes to jail? Haha! Don't assume as it makes an "@ss" out of "u" and "me" ! JAB might only be tagged!?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 9:41:40 GMT
Even if the poll ended up equal, what kind of position is that when from a selection of people who all want the club to win every game only 50% can bring themselves to support the person in charge of the team. This sort of nonsense is usually reserved from clubs run as badly as Newcastle, where the owner treats the supporters with nothing short of contempt and a 'I know better than you' attitude. Doesn’t really matter what the poll says when, at the time I posted this, a total of 51 people had voted. Not representative of anything, just a group of bored men and women with nothing better to do sounding off! 😉 UTG! I'm fairly certain that club sycophants read both forums and report back what's being said, and more than certain that the local media keep an eye on both boards as well, so they see some value in the news and opinion here I think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 10:14:52 GMT
Doesn’t really matter what the poll says when, at the time I posted this, a total of 51 people had voted. Not representative of anything, just a group of bored men and women with nothing better to do sounding off! 😉 UTG! 'Bored men and women with nothing better to do' is why Bristol Rovers Football Club exists in the first place.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 6, 2021 11:59:47 GMT
Doesn’t really matter what the poll says when, at the time I posted this, a total of 51 people had voted. Not representative of anything, just a group of bored men and women with nothing better to do sounding off! 😉 UTG! 'Bored men and women with nothing better to do' is why Bristol Rovers Football Club exists in the first place. I read this forum often, but don't tend to comment, but all this anti JB rhetoric is depressing. Give the man a chance, he has had no transfer window, but has clearly improved the atmosphere in the squad and deserved more points. At a minimum he deserves the same amount as Garner who was proved to be out of his depth. I would have said for Tisdale, but that's history now, so no point dwelling on it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 12:25:48 GMT
'Bored men and women with nothing better to do' is why Bristol Rovers Football Club exists in the first place. I read this forum often, but don't tend to comment, but all this anti JB rhetoric is depressing. Give the man a chance, he has had no transfer window, but has clearly improved the atmosphere in the squad and deserved more points. At a minimum he deserves the same amount as Garner who was proved to be out of his depth. I would have said for Tisdale, but that's history now, so no point dwelling on it. Don’t read it then, there is a whole forum dedicated to kissing the man’s ass and it can be found at Gaschat.co.uk - you can thank me later. I thought B***** was the most divisive thing that could happen to this fanbase but actually what seems to be worse and far more insidious is the crying and bitching by people like yourselves that can’t tolerate opposing viewpoints. It’s now lead to the comical situation where there are two forums- one for people who are behind B***** and think the board are doing a wonderful job and a forum for those who think spending 20 million to achieve sod all is very poor ownership and are appalled at the owner appointing a man who has an unaswered charge of ABH hanging over his head as well as other infractions. But what is singularly noticeable is that there is no tolerance of other’s opinions by those who are pro B*****. It is only those who are pro B***** on this forum and on Gaschat who are telling others what they want to read and what they should say or they should shut up. It’s really made me disillusioned with the entire fanbase as freedom of speech and accepting other’s opinion and their right to voice it should be one of the basic tenets of posting on a forum in the first place. You don’t get to tell others what they should think and that they should be pro-B***** just because you don’t want to read opinions to the contrary. Strewth.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 6, 2021 12:26:55 GMT
Doesn’t really matter what the poll says when, at the time I posted this, a total of 51 people had voted. Not representative of anything, just a group of bored men and women with nothing better to do sounding off! 😉 UTG! I'm fairly certain that club sycophants read both forums and report back what's being said, and more than certain that the local media keep an eye on both boards as well, so they see some value in the news and opinion here I think. Yes, I guess that may be true. I’m sure you’re right about it getting reported back and if the poll or similar ever got to hundreds or thousands then the club may act or take more notice of it. Our legal system may well be more influential. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 6, 2021 12:39:04 GMT
I read this forum often, but don't tend to comment, but all this anti JB rhetoric is depressing. Give the man a chance, he has had no transfer window, but has clearly improved the atmosphere in the squad and deserved more points. At a minimum he deserves the same amount as Garner who was proved to be out of his depth. I would have said for Tisdale, but that's history now, so no point dwelling on it. Don’t read it then, there is a whole forum dedicated to kissing the man’s ass and it can be found at Gaschat.co.uk - you can thank me later. I thought B***** was the most divisive thing that could happen to this fanbase but actually what seems to be worse and far more insidious is the crying and bitching by people like yourselves that can’t tolerate opposing viewpoints. It’s now lead to the comical situation where there are two forums- one for people who are behind B***** and think the board are doing a wonderful job and a forum for those who think spending 20 million to achieve sod all is very poor ownership and are appalled at the owner appointing a man who has an unaswered charge of ABH hanging over his head as well as other infractions. But what is singularly noticeable is that there is no intolerance of other’s opinions by those who are against B*****. It is only those who are pro B***** on this forum and on Gaschat who are telling others what they want to read and what they should say or they should shut up. It’s really made me disillusioned with the entire fanbase as freedom of speech and accepting other’s opinion and their right to voice it should be one of the basic tenets of posting on a forum in the first place. You don’t get to tell others what they should think and that they should be pro-B***** just because you don’t want to read opinions to the contrary. Strewth. Come on wmgas, you’re better than that. You say there is “no intolerance of other’s opinions...” ( I presume you mean no tolerance....) when, in your first sentence, you talk about others with a different opinion than yours “kissing the man’s ass...” and then “crying and bitching...” Pot, kettle, black isn’t it? Tolerance should be expected by all not just those who agree with you. Plenty of gasheads on Gaschat who didn’t want JB appointed, me and many others. I completely agree with your last paragraph where you talk about accepting other’s opinions as being a basic tenet of posting on a forum in the first place. That being the case, best not to characterise those who have different opinions as “kissing the man’s ass” or “crying and bitching” because they disagree with you. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 13:05:45 GMT
I'm fairly certain that club sycophants read both forums and report back what's being said, and more than certain that the local media keep an eye on both boards as well, so they see some value in the news and opinion here I think. Yes, I guess that may be true. I’m sure you’re right about it getting reported back and if the poll or similar ever got to hundreds or thousands then the club may act or take more notice of it. Our legal system may well be more influential. UTG! Maybe Boycie Bradshaw was right after all and we are just a handful of internet warriors
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 13:11:02 GMT
Don’t read it then, there is a whole forum dedicated to kissing the man’s ass and it can be found at Gaschat.co.uk - you can thank me later. I thought B***** was the most divisive thing that could happen to this fanbase but actually what seems to be worse and far more insidious is the crying and bitching by people like yourselves that can’t tolerate opposing viewpoints. It’s now lead to the comical situation where there are two forums- one for people who are behind B***** and think the board are doing a wonderful job and a forum for those who think spending 20 million to achieve sod all is very poor ownership and are appalled at the owner appointing a man who has an unaswered charge of ABH hanging over his head as well as other infractions. But what is singularly noticeable is that there is no intolerance of other’s opinions by those who are against B*****. It is only those who are pro B***** on this forum and on Gaschat who are telling others what they want to read and what they should say or they should shut up. It’s really made me disillusioned with the entire fanbase as freedom of speech and accepting other’s opinion and their right to voice it should be one of the basic tenets of posting on a forum in the first place. You don’t get to tell others what they should think and that they should be pro-B***** just because you don’t want to read opinions to the contrary. Strewth. Come on wmgas, you’re better than that. You say there is “no intolerance of other’s opinions...” ( I presume you mean no tolerance....) when, in your first sentence, you talk about others with a different opinion than yours “kissing the man’s ass...” and then “crying and bitching...” Pot, kettle, black isn’t it? Tolerance should be expected by all not just those who agree with you. Plenty of gasheads on Gaschat who didn’t want JB appointed, me and many others. I completely agree with your last paragraph where you talk about accepting other’s opinions as being a basic tenet of posting on a forum in the first place. That being the case, best not to characterise those who have different opinions as “kissing the man’s ass” or “crying and bitching” because they disagree with you. UTG! To use a childish phrase “they started it” so I’m just responding in kind. I’ve always accepted other people’s right to an opinion but when they start characterising those of a different opinion in the way that they have then from my point of view, I’ll bare my teeth. Look, if Rovers fans are so divided and intolerant that there needs to be two different forums for two different viewpoints then that’s one thing but to have a thread on one of those forums criticising how the other is unreadable because they can’t stand the viewpoints expressed on it doesn’t that tell you everything you need to know about the fanbase as a whole and their attitude to people being able to air their views? One can only imagine that if a third Rovers forum was set up with anti-B***** views the same people from Gaschat would still be browsing it and complaining “I stopped posting on there because they are so anti-B*****”. It’s ridiculous.
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