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Post by harrybuckle on Mar 22, 2021 8:00:36 GMT
Joey Barton must be pondering many team changes. The return of Day, dropping Ehmer,Kilgour, Upson and Hanlan perhaps. Laying it on the line for the squad that their futures are being considered as decisions are being made about next season. This will depend on what do division we will be playing in. Swindon is a match we simply have to win. Simples. I am sure it won't be an easy watch. UTG
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 22, 2021 8:07:24 GMT
Will we see Josh Barrett?....
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Post by Delsy on Mar 22, 2021 8:16:07 GMT
Looking at the fixtures following the Swindon spat I am not entirely convinced that even a win for this game will alter what looks now to be the inevitable outcome. The damage is already behind us, Rochdale, Wigan, AFC Wimbledon, all home fixtures that should have been three pointers.
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Post by basel on Mar 22, 2021 8:19:40 GMT
It's 3 points at stake.
What is vital,is JB can somehow find a system to drag victories out of our 4th tier looking squad.
Can he coach improvement out of individuals,that positively effects the team and results, sooner rather than later?
In the scenario he succeeds - with the help of good attitude from players - say no later than 3 or 4 more games,we may stay up.
Otherwise Rovers will be 4th tier next time.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 22, 2021 12:38:49 GMT
Sorry Arry. To start with the title of this match day thread has to change because it’s the biggest load of pig ignorant s**t ever produced in a thread title. The match doesn’t need added pressure. Sports people don’t perform best under added pressure. Pile the pressure on with win or bust talk every week and it will create underperformance not over performance, in football it will be mistakes and silly cards.
We don’t know if the cagey point from this match keeps us up end of season. We do know if we don’t have the right focus and go too hung ho and start conceding goals it’s going to make it a difficult night.
We flopped at muff due to our manager not reacting to them overmanning it in midfield. We blew it home to Wigan. But we dispatched Salop and Stanley with aplomb. We don’t know from what matches opponents will drop or pick up points, or where we pick up the points we need. We just focus on one project at a time, and on the field or off field decision making, make the best decisions we can.
I don’t know as much about Swindle as the rovers management who have watched them and analysed them. The first match was a mugging, they were no better than us. As they are about to go to the wall and not thrown as much money at this season as we have, we should be in a better place than them. But it’s what happens on the pitch which clubs stays up. And that comes down to cutting edge. And I sort of fear despite the crap place they are off the pitch, they may prove to have more cutting edge than us on pitch in run in.
even before being outmanned in the middle last Saturday I’ve been posting here the middle, the ball retention/roaming playmaking thing is the bit Joey has been getting wrong. And I stick by that of course, because with each game it’s becoming patently obvious to all of us isn’t it? You play 3 cb and 2 forwards you will have less time to pass and bodies to press and opponents more press pass in mf areas. Why not suspect how we achieved recent wins was watched and sussed? So against Swindon I would play back 4, play narrow right down team, keep it tight in middle, give us numbers there. Maybe even drop Hanlon to bench. Like in game of chess, control the middle.
I suggest to start in shape and cancelling them out but preserving energy for grandstand finish in last quarter of game rather than the other way round. So in terms of setting up for this match, I would be wary of them scoring goals making it a hard night for us to respond to those goals. I’d keep it tight, and if it finishes 0.0 and we don’t pickup all 3, we take it and move on.
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Post by bluetornados on Mar 22, 2021 20:43:24 GMT
Stats for our 100th game v Swindon are - P99, W38, D16, L45 - We have won 5-0, 5-1 & 5-3, losing 5-2, 4-3, 4-2 & 4-1.
The last 10 games v Swindon have been W5, D2 & L3, 3 vital points are up for grabs, it has to be blood N guts.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 23, 2021 9:20:20 GMT
Possibly the most important match of the season.....not just because of points available to win or lose v geographic and relegation rivals, but because when we were due to play them originally, they had no goalkeepers! We have lost the advantage.
Many times in our history we've drawn strength in adversity. Will this be one more such an event?
I personally think after yesterday's comments, JAB could not have timed his scathing comments more better or worse, depending on the reaction and subsequent outcome. We are not playing poorly (box play excluded).
I've said for a while we are already relegated, just waiting for confirmation.....but amazingly we are still masters of our own destiny.
I've got to predict a scrappy, nervous 1-0 win or I wouldn't be eternal optimist. I think most would take that..... let's do it!
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 23, 2021 11:31:33 GMT
No Nicholson but Oz is back. Rodman will be missed but nothing new there. Hanlan still seems only 80% fit so I expect his usual falling over for a free kick routine. I can't see anything other than 0-0 or a late winner for them after trooper Joey makes his customary non-tactical substitutions late on to save legs for the next 3-pointer. He'll be telling us he hasn't got a magic wand next.+
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 23, 2021 13:16:39 GMT
Possibly the most important match of the season.....not just because of points available to win or lose v geographic and relegation rivals, but because when we were due to play them originally, they had no goalkeepers! We have lost the advantage. Many times in our history we've drawn strength in adversity. Will this be one more such an event? I personally think after yesterday's comments, JAB could not have timed his scathing comments more better or worse, depending on the reaction and subsequent outcome. We are not playing poorly (box play excluded). I've said for a while we are already relegated, just waiting for confirmation.....but amazingly we are still masters of our own destiny. I've got to predict a scrappy, nervous 1-0 win or I wouldn't be eternal optimist. I think most would take that..... let's do it! I like to think it’s cagey and dull and we triumph 1 or two nil. it depends if we keep it tight and play for the 0.0 or 1.0. If the manager picks an attacking outlook and fires them up in dressing room with death or glory rhetoric, anything could happen. Including a lot of disaster outcomes. got to try and keep it tight by squeezing the middle. And just play calm organised football with lots of focus on individual tasks. It feels like one of those opponents surprised by playing well but we won anyway because we are overdue one of these types of results type day.
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Post by mangogas15 on Mar 23, 2021 13:51:53 GMT
Worried about tonight and I should be.
Please start Daly ahead of Hanlan, he might even headbutt a keeper this week. He's just missed the last 2.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 13:57:39 GMT
Barton chucking a player under the bus in public will have gained the confidence of the dressing room, they'll all be prepared to go into battle for him now.
Before Plymouth was confident about these 2 games, the team seemed to be creating plenty of chances, so scoring a couple against weaker opposition shouldn't have been a problem. Not so sure now.
Hope we employ someone competent who went and watched Swindon on Saturday, but sadly suspect that a mate of a mate got the job and we won't be properly prepared.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 23, 2021 14:40:39 GMT
Barton chucking a player under the bus in public will have gained the confidence of the dressing room, they'll all be prepared to go into battle for him now. Before Plymouth was confident about these 2 games, the team seemed to be creating plenty of chances, so scoring a couple against weaker opposition shouldn't have been a problem. Not so sure now. Hope we employ someone competent who went and watched Swindon on Saturday, but sadly suspect that a mate of a mate got the job and we won't be properly prepared. I think we will see another loss. The ehmer slagging will not have helped & Swindon are up for it and with no one giving them abuse
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 14:48:53 GMT
Barton chucking a player under the bus in public will have gained the confidence of the dressing room, they'll all be prepared to go into battle for him now. Before Plymouth was confident about these 2 games, the team seemed to be creating plenty of chances, so scoring a couple against weaker opposition shouldn't have been a problem. Not so sure now. Hope we employ someone competent who went and watched Swindon on Saturday, but sadly suspect that a mate of a mate got the job and we won't be properly prepared. I think we will see another loss. The ehmer slagging will not have helped & Swindon are up for it and with no one giving them abuse Hope you are wrong, but Mr Punchy has his excuses all lined up. If relegation is avoided then he did in in the face of overwhelming odds. If the club gets relegated then there was nothing he could do with a poor squad and disorganised club. Not sure if he's so stupid that he believes that supporters won't see through this, or if this is really how little respect he has for people's intelligence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 15:11:01 GMT
Not sure which way this will go but as usual we will probably need at least 2 goals to get a result.
However, I'm intrigued how the players will react tonight as their tempo has certainly dropped over the last couple of games which is expected given the number of games that they are having to play but I will be looking at their mental attitude. If the manager has been chucking bombs into the dressing room by verbally assaulting individuals publicly and privately then we will soon find out how they will respond.
Whatever the result tonight, the season is far from over.
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Post by bluetornados on Mar 23, 2021 15:33:21 GMT
Stats for our games in March - Played 6, Shots 83, On Target 22, Goals 6.
We are creating chances but are awry with our accuracy, more training on shooting is obvious.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 23, 2021 16:00:57 GMT
Stats for our games in March - Played 6, Shots 83, On Target 22, Goals 6. We are creating chances but are awry with our accuracy, more training on shooting is obvious. is it? Or a lot of efforts not clear opening. Are they counting headers as shots as there has been loads from set pieces that went no where near goal but wasn’t obvious chances. From the 83 I can’t remember too many blatant misses that should have been finished.
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Post by bluetornados on Mar 23, 2021 16:07:23 GMT
Stats for our games in March - Played 6, Shots 83, On Target 22, Goals 6. We are creating chances but are awry with our accuracy, more training on shooting is obvious. is it? Or a lot of efforts not clear opening. Are they counting headers as shots as there has been loads from set pieces that went no where near goal but wasn’t obvious chances. From the 83 I can’t remember too many blatant misses that should have been finished. Hi, the stats are from the BBC match stats which consist of possession, shots, shots on target, corners and fouls. You are probably right, too many blatant misses in front of the onion bag, more shooting practice is needed either way.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 23, 2021 16:08:00 GMT
Looking at the fixtures following the Swindon spat I am not entirely convinced that even a win for this game will alter what looks now to be the inevitable outcome. The damage is already behind us, Rochdale, Wigan, AFC Wimbledon, all home fixtures that should have been three pointers. even so, I don’t think draw today is bad result. It’s currently 15 from 30. A defeat today and it’s 15 from 27 which is good form no matter what fixtures. in terms of a tour mountain stage, after this last flat stage, 5 testy climbs, but it then does flatten off. Winning the last four on the trot wouldn’t be a huge shock.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 16:13:55 GMT
We can all dwell to much on stats. As the mighty emperor has said they don't resemble the games that we have watched.
Look at them and throw them away.
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Post by phil74 on Mar 23, 2021 16:27:11 GMT
Stats for our games in March - Played 6, Shots 83, On Target 22, Goals 6. We are creating chances but are awry with our accuracy, more training on shooting is obvious. is it? Or a lot of efforts not clear opening. Are they counting headers as shots as there has been loads from set pieces that went no where near goal but wasn’t obvious chances. From the 83 I can’t remember too many blatant misses that should have been finished. Yes, a subtle but key distinction. We've played a lot of balls over to the top rather than creating chances on the deck through the middle. With my novice coaching hat on, I'd like a back 4 tonight, pack the midfield and go from there. Probably just play Ayunga up top, rather than with Hanlan. As you highlighted in a different thread, we need to start controlling games in the midfield, giving us chance to develop good attacking patterns.
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