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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:04:25 GMT
I was wondering if we begin to significantly tire in the last 15 20 minutes,after all the pressing and closing down we do these days? Astute observation Bas. It sounded like the press was making this lot better than they are early on and it seemed to catch Shrewsbury and Accrington out, but if you can weather the storm as Wimbldeon and Charlton did then you can inevitably have the better of the final quarter of the game. One has to wonder about using such a press when playing 2 games a week for two months with a lack of strikers available. Yet another reason why all this “the manager wanted to play with one up front” crap as a defence for the unbalanced squad situation just rings hollow. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:04:41 GMT
Remember when we were 4th in League One? Did that actually happen? Yes, dark days. So bad people even abused Coughlans family on social media. |
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Post by phil74 on Mar 16, 2021 21:05:02 GMT
I'm afraid it's all coming together to spell relegation. The team that were 4th in League One just over a year ago and then went through four managers in one season. This has echoes of 2001.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:05:18 GMT
Remember when we were 4th in League One? Did that actually happen? Yeah, it was s*** apparently! Being an old fashioned sort, I quite liked it. Wael agreed that it was s**t, hence why he hired Garner so the club could be put back in it’s place. |
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Post by cornwallgas on Mar 16, 2021 21:07:01 GMT
What a f'ing s**t sandwich...I dont mind if we get stuffed.. but from 2-0 up!!..its always the hope that kills you!
Still top of the bottom 6 (2 out of 6 chance to stay up if we're better than 4 other crap teams)...more hope killing us there😄
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:07:02 GMT
Not disputing this, not for a second, but if it's the case then why did we get rid of Tisdale and keep the bloke who identified these players and recommended them to the club? According to the legends on the other forum all Widdrington does is produce a list of names based on what the manager asks for - so he has no responsibility for the quality of the names on the list and anyway it’s all the manager’s fault for selecting the wrong names. Teflon Tommy. Teflon Tommy or absolute waste of a salary Tommy? A few weeks ago he was claiming we’d proven we could compete with the top 6. The table is making you look like a fool, Tommy |
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Post by phil74 on Mar 16, 2021 21:07:48 GMT
Oh well, on we go to Plymouth. I vividly remember us leading them 2-0 at HT at the Mem, only to collapse and lose 3 - 2. That was under Buckle, but I'm sure it must have been our fault for having unreasonable expectations.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 16, 2021 21:14:14 GMT
Kilgour,Ehmer,Baldwin and Williams all lack pace.In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us. We are not a league one side. Davies played well for Barrow in their win tonight.Can we recall him? “In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us.” jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. let’s be fair to Joey and point out how his game management and substitutions are brilliant game after game. That his continued playing of Kilgore, Upson etc shows he really knows his stuff. jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. |
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Post by richmace on Mar 16, 2021 21:17:13 GMT
Gutted. I feel sick this evening.
Yet another good performance and nothing to show for it. That sums up this season.
We have to take heart that we can play well, but our defensive frailties are ruining our chances.
We have seen an improvement under JB, that is clear. We need to find a way to grind out results.
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Post by danrory on Mar 16, 2021 21:17:56 GMT
Oh well, on we go to Plymouth. I vividly remember us leading them 2-0 at HT at the Mem, only to collapse and lose 3 - 2. That was under Buckle, but I'm sure it must have been our fault for having unreasonable expectations. Never forgotten Plymouth away mid eighties...2 up (Randall), lost 3.2 fighting all over Home Park afterwards, even in middle of kiddies play area. Dark days |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:18:52 GMT
Kilgour,Ehmer,Baldwin and Williams all lack pace.In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us. We are not a league one side. Davies played well for Barrow in their win tonight.Can we recall him? “In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us.” jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. let’s be fair to Joey and point out how his game management and substitutions are brilliant game after game. That his continued playing of Kilgore, Upson etc shows he really knows his stuff. jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. Everybody has to cop for their share. Barton is the great messiah so people are desperate to do all the mental gymnastics necessary to make it look like he’s effectively got a free play. The easiest way of doing that is to blame it on BG for signing an unbalanced squad and then on Tisdale for not signing a striker in January. In reality recruitment of players has been poor in parts, the recruitment of managers has been poor, the game management at times has been poor. It all adds up to what we are seeing now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:19:57 GMT
Kilgour,Ehmer,Baldwin and Williams all lack pace.In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us. We are not a league one side. Davies played well for Barrow in their win tonight.Can we recall him? “In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us.” jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. let’s be fair to Joey and point out how his game management and substitutions are brilliant game after game. That his continued playing of Kilgore, Upson etc shows he really knows his stuff. jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. He took over knowing he had no transfer window and having impressed Wael with his in depth knowledge of the club and players. If he’d told Wael he couldn’t pull a rabbit from a hat then fair enough, but if he can’t keep us up then part of the responsibility lies with him |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 16, 2021 21:26:03 GMT
“In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us.” jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. let’s be fair to Joey and point out how his game management and substitutions are brilliant game after game. That his continued playing of Kilgore, Upson etc shows he really knows his stuff. jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. Everybody has to cop for their share. Barton is the great messiah so people are desperate to do all the mental gymnastics necessary to make it look like he’s effectively got a free play. The easiest way of doing that is to blame it on BG for signing an unbalanced squad and then on Tisdale for not signing a striker in January. In reality recruitment of players has been poor in parts, the recruitment of managers has been poor, the game management at times has been poor. It all adds up to what we are seeing now. Manager huffed off because club didn’t give him couple of strikers in January, not the other way around! it was right he went, you can’t have any negativity about the place in a relegation scrap, and he was the volcano of the stuff himself. But while the 19/20 slide we can pin on BG, can’t pin all 20/21 struggle on BG, what are people thinking when they say this? Do they follow the club? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:32:53 GMT
Not disputing this, not for a second, but if it's the case then why did we get rid of Tisdale and keep the bloke who identified these players and recommended them to the club? According to the legends on the other forum all Widdrington does is produce a list of names based on what the manager asks for - so he has no responsibility for the quality of the names on the list and anyway it’s all the manager’s fault for selecting the wrong names. Teflon Tommy. No idea what Widdrington is being paid, but I'll make a list of players and then take zero responsibility for the consequences for half of his salary, and buy you all a drink when we can meet up again out of the pay as well! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 21:36:27 GMT
“In fairness to JB he inherited the mediocrity we have and can only play what BG brought to us.” jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. let’s be fair to Joey and point out how his game management and substitutions are brilliant game after game. That his continued playing of Kilgore, Upson etc shows he really knows his stuff. jibberish. Pure 100% rubbish from Rovers fans pinning the whole 20/21 debacle on BG. Everybody has to cop for their share. Barton is the great messiah so people are desperate to do all the mental gymnastics necessary to make it look like he’s effectively got a free play. The easiest way of doing that is to blame it on BG for signing an unbalanced squad and then on Tisdale for not signing a striker in January. In reality recruitment of players has been poor in parts, the recruitment of managers has been poor, the game management at times has been poor. It all adds up to what we are seeing now. The way this club has been run over the last 15 months will quite possibly have made it significantly less appealing for any player considering a move. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 16, 2021 21:39:31 GMT
Up until Charlton conceded the second we looked very good. Deservedly two up on balance of game
Crap defending to go 2.2? No. It was good defending that was the only opportunity’s they had first half. Was the second a free kick. I don’t think so.
Second half we faded away. Where did we go? Nicholson would have been taken off and replaced by Westbrook in hole even without injury I think, but then Westbrook taken off as well.
Decision to go five at back and enjoy the point probably a good one. But we conceded so quickly.
From what I have seen so far I am convinced the winner is offside, nodded by Charlton to Charlton in offside position.
Sending off fair enough as straight red for dangerous play? Replay does show him jumping with his shoulder into the attacker tbh. Does that condemn us to three games of van strappon?
Although we played very well first half, it helped Charlton were off the pace. There is still something not right about the how the manager is setting us up and the personnel he is playing. It’s the spine. Take tonight’s formation and play Otz in hole behind front two, Grant in middle instead of Upson, Nicholson and one of Mccorm/Westbrook either side, Ehmer instead of Kilgore, and Ansii in goal. It’s the same formation, but the spine is so different.
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Post by phil74 on Mar 16, 2021 21:55:04 GMT
Up until Charlton conceded the second we looked very good. Deservedly two up on balance of game Crap defending to go 2.2? No. It was good defending that was the only opportunity’s they had first half. Was the second a free kick. I don’t think so. Second half we faded away. Where did we go? Nicholson would have been taken off and replaced by Westbrook in hole even without injury I think, but then Westbrook taken off as well. Decision to go five at back and enjoy the point probably a good one. But we conceded so quickly. From what I have seen so far I am convinced the winner is offside, nodded by Charlton to Charlton in offside position. Sending off fair enough as straight red for dangerous play? Replay does show him jumping with his shoulder into the attacker tbh. Does that condemn us to three games of van strappon? Although we played very well first half, it helped Charlton were off the pace. There is still something not right about the how the manager is setting us up and the personnel he is playing. It’s the spine. Take tonight’s formation and play Otz in hole behind front two, Grant in middle instead of Upson, Nicholson and one of Mccorm/Westbrook either side, Ehmer instead of Kilgore, and Ansii in goal. It’s the same formation, but the spine is so different. I really enjoy reading your assessments. Mention of Oz shows how much we're missing him. It's like Jaakola never existed now. Grant, Ogogo, Barrett and Rodman all injured. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 16, 2021 22:09:56 GMT
Up until Charlton conceded the second we looked very good. Deservedly two up on balance of game Crap defending to go 2.2? No. It was good defending that was the only opportunity’s they had first half. Was the second a free kick. I don’t think so. Second half we faded away. Where did we go? Nicholson would have been taken off and replaced by Westbrook in hole even without injury I think, but then Westbrook taken off as well. Decision to go five at back and enjoy the point probably a good one. But we conceded so quickly. From what I have seen so far I am convinced the winner is offside, nodded by Charlton to Charlton in offside position. Sending off fair enough as straight red for dangerous play? Replay does show him jumping with his shoulder into the attacker tbh. Does that condemn us to three games of van strappon? Although we played very well first half, it helped Charlton were off the pace. There is still something not right about the how the manager is setting us up and the personnel he is playing. It’s the spine. Take tonight’s formation and play Otz in hole behind front two, Grant in middle instead of Upson, Nicholson and one of Mccorm/Westbrook either side, Ehmer instead of Kilgore, and Ansii in goal. It’s the same formation, but the spine is so different. I really enjoy reading your assessments. Mention of Oz shows how much we're missing him. It's like Jaakola never existed now. Grant, Ogogo, Barrett and Rodman all injured. Thank you. all teams need a strong spine the more experienced the better. Although we played 4 4 2 diamond today, we don’t really have obvious in the hole player, except Otz, and I would like to say Barrett but haven’t seen enough of him. I like Nicholson, but the hole is not him, he’s a carrier, a wide carrier cum goal scorer not prime creator. Behind that diamond I wouldn’t play Upson ahead of a fit Og or Grant. The other issue then, for all Mcormack box to box energy and press, and indeed tackle, it’s his pass, through ball, awareness as weaker suits. And the same to some extent with Westbrook, where is his time on the ball, foot on ball, longer ball, though ball, switch across pitch. We can hustle opponents and get some joy there, but as a footballing side it’s not ticking over. |
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Post by phil74 on Mar 16, 2021 22:18:08 GMT
Have there been times this season when you feel we have ticked over as a footballing side? If so, when and what was the reason for it? I'm enjoying learning!
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Post by basel on Mar 16, 2021 22:22:34 GMT
We can but hope JB drags enough points out of them to see us remain 3rd tier.
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