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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 9:08:22 GMT
The trouble is we don’t accept that for people of my age this league represents the old division two not division three. The advent of the Premiere League has seen an overwhelming influx of foreign players forcing down a league those they’ve replaced. In those terms it becomes clearer that you have to have a lot more about you as a club than the old jolly hocking sticks amateur shambles we have here. The whole thing is run like a chicken coup, pathetic, no wonder it all falls apart under the slightest pressure. Darrell gave up expectations of forward movement totally frustrated on feeding on a never ending diet of bulls**t. Coughlan as his replacement was hated unfairly by many but knew how to play the crap hand he was dealt but also got to the f**k this for a game of soldiers point and buggered off. Ben came from Wael’s cloud cuckoo land and Tisdale is up to his neck in the latest cesspit of ridiculous recruiting. Widdrington is an idiot, he played to the gallery throughout the summer bringing in players he knew were miles away from being able to produce the goods at this level. The telegraph pole and phone box (Ayunga and Barrett), metaphorically described due to their ability to move at speed, are classic examples of this fools approach. We are falling apart from top to bottom and fixtures with Yeovil and others are firmly on the horizon.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Feb 3, 2021 9:40:29 GMT
To sub Oztumer but especially Hanlan shows there is trouble behind the scenes IMO, that PT is struggling to influence them to respond to him. Talk of him being unhappy with them celebrating goals due to COVID, yes but you have to score them first, everyone else does it, it's the culmination of their working week to celebrate what they trained for and they must cultivate team spirit, something at the moment they don't appear to have. That is the current manager's fault.This is the area that Tisdale should be focussing on. There appears to be no team ethic, no team spirit, no passion or fight, they are just a bunch of individuals paid a wage to play football. They could be anywhere playing for any team. They certainly aren't playing for the shirt or badge. As someone said it's a good job the crowds aren't in. I remember going to Accrington when McGhee was in charge. They were dreadful and the 300 fans who had stood in pouring rain, soaked through to cheer their team on let them know how they felt. They looked shocked and so should that bunch last night. Gasheads don't expect miracles, we are realistic. But we do expect players to put in a shift and give 100% no matter what. That lot last night went through the motions. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Feb 3, 2021 9:59:23 GMT
I have been let down life changingly badly three times in my long life,the third being when we dropped out of the league.I didn't blame any individual but nevertheless I felt devastated.Last night those memories came flooding back.No direction,now new or improved Stadium plans,no fight and in reality no idea.
No doubt when my time comes,the tents will still be in situ at the Mem-if we are still in existence- and I will always recall after the Wael takeover and the Sainsbury's debacle,the new Chairman when asked about the UWE and would it still go ahead said that 'Finance isn't an issue'.
Never happened though but we did eventually get two more tents.We are a joke.
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Post by gastower on Feb 3, 2021 11:28:57 GMT
Sums up the late Gasinciders opinion exactly
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Post by bluetornados on Feb 3, 2021 12:58:30 GMT
I just saw the goals. We knew from the scoreline, but watching the goals you could see they had given up. It reminded me of the self destructive streak I use to have when I played a lot of tennis. I'd be losing, give up and want to get hammered. Only difference was I hadn't given up at the start of the match. I guess most of the players making a charitable donation isn't going to happen. I want my IFollow money back, imagine if fans had travelled to watch that. Like the Southampton fans did with the 9-0 loss to Leicester, good job nobody travelled last night eh..!! |
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Post by bluetornados on Feb 3, 2021 13:02:36 GMT
Wael has to stump up some real cash to re-build this shambles of a team we have at the moment. If we are still in L1 in the summer, or not, Mr T will have very serious work to do. We have a squad of nearly 30 players, how many to cull is the question. We actually have 43 pros on our books few would make our Football combination side of 1971. Info i have is 41 in total, 27 in the squad, 3 in development and 11 out on loan = 41. |
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Post by crater on Feb 3, 2021 15:16:27 GMT
Re the title of this thread...
Why single them out?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2021 15:29:22 GMT
Since Coughlan left we've been going down hill. WAQ and the board hired an idiot. Garner made a mess of it. Tisdale can't stop the slide.Yet. Early February and as it stands,we are on course for the 4th tier. Can we improve? I’d argue the idiot is the one who did the hiring on a “vision” We are on our way down and look like a NL team |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2021 15:37:38 GMT
Blimey! Stanley so much quicker in thought and deed than us. They look worthy of being challengers this time. bas, it's Accrington Stanley, not Athletico Madrid. No Bristol Rovers team should ever lose like that to them, it's totally unacceptable. I'm sure Wael will have a statement for us bright and early in the morning, apologising and detailing what the plan is to sort this complete fiasco out. Made I laugh |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 3, 2021 16:09:15 GMT
turned out to be an excellent limited overs player, has had health problems over the last few years, depression among them, seems to be quite prevalant in sportspersonel That's right, Fowler has struggled with mental health problems; Mike Brearley has helped him out. I liked him as a commentator's pundit, when he did it for Sky and TMS - focused on the technical matters. I've recently read his latest book Mind Over Batter, and will probably get his previous book Absolutely Foxed at some point. There have been 3 autobiographies I've read by former cricketers, in the past 6 months, and they are all linked in some way: Luke Sutton - Back From The Edge ... he was at Durham University when Graeme Fowler was coach there. Marcus Trescothick - Coming Back To Me ... born in Keynsham, as was Luke Sutton (although Sutton's family moved to Oman when he was 6 weeks old, and then he later boarded at Millfield School). And they are all linked in that they have suffered with depression / mental health problems. Not the thread for this but Cricketers and mental health problems is definitely not a new thing. David Frith’s book, Suicide of the Heart looks closely at the problems crickets have always had in this area and how a larger % of crickets committed suicide compared to other sportsmen. I won’t say it was an enjoyable book but it was informative and thought-provoking. An individual sport with the context of a team game. Unusual. |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 3, 2021 16:21:29 GMT
Sounds like a shambles I did well to miss. Some observations from a distance. There's no point considering Tisdale going. We can't change managers twice a year. That was how Higgs lost our league status. Tisdale is likely the best bet available. Assuming you want us promoted next year. Essential if we're back in the fourth tier. People want Al Qadi to go; I can see why. Axing the Al Qadi subsidy ruins us though. Al Qadi and Tisdale are our only options. Let me know if you have a better idea. You were lucky to miss it. Complete shambles but I agree Tis should stay and sort it out. As for getting rid of the owner, you’re right completely ridiculous even if I understand the frustration gasheads are feeling at the moment. Looked to me that Ogogo and Upson were big misses last night despite the stick Upson gets sometimes. Let’s hope the players used the long journey home to feel embarrassed. That was awful, even worse than the match at York in December 12. No passion, no care, no determination, nothing. Down to the players not the manager although I suspect the manager will carry the can, players rarely seem to. UTG! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2021 16:21:31 GMT
That's right, Fowler has struggled with mental health problems; Mike Brearley has helped him out. I liked him as a commentator's pundit, when he did it for Sky and TMS - focused on the technical matters. I've recently read his latest book Mind Over Batter, and will probably get his previous book Absolutely Foxed at some point. There have been 3 autobiographies I've read by former cricketers, in the past 6 months, and they are all linked in some way: Luke Sutton - Back From The Edge ... he was at Durham University when Graeme Fowler was coach there. Marcus Trescothick - Coming Back To Me ... born in Keynsham, as was Luke Sutton (although Sutton's family moved to Oman when he was 6 weeks old, and then he later boarded at Millfield School). And they are all linked in that they have suffered with depression / mental health problems. Not the thread for this but Cricketers and mental health problems is definitely not a new thing. David Frith’s book, Suicide of the Heart looks closely at the problems crickets have always had in this area and how a larger % of crickets committed suicide compared to other sportsmen. I won’t say it was an enjoyable book but it was informative and thought-provoking. An individual sport with the context of a team game. Unusual. If you want an more insight on this topic then read Spike Milligan on it. The way veterans were * treated* was by sleep therapy, they would be placed on heavy duty barbiturates and kept asleep, for very long periods. I have it here if you’d like to read it, found it whilst in hospital and taped it back together. I won’t comment on why cricketers suffer as I have no idea. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2021 16:28:36 GMT
Sounds like a shambles I did well to miss. Some observations from a distance. There's no point considering Tisdale going. We can't change managers twice a year. That was how Higgs lost our league status. Tisdale is likely the best bet available. Assuming you want us promoted next year. Essential if we're back in the fourth tier. People want Al Qadi to go; I can see why. Axing the Al Qadi subsidy ruins us though. Al Qadi and Tisdale are our only options. Let me know if you have a better idea. You were lucky to miss it. Complete shambles but I agree Tis should stay and sort it out. As for getting rid of the owner, you’re right completely ridiculous even if I understand the frustration gasheads are feeling at the moment. Looked to me that Ogogo and Upson were big misses last night despite the stick Upson gets sometimes. Let’s hope the players used the long journey home to feel embarrassed. That was awful, even worse than the match at York in December 12. No passion, no care, no determination, nothing. Down to the players not the manager although I suspect the manager will carry the can, players rarely seem to. UTG! As I have been led to believe, we had opportunities to change owners and get a stadium but it was the owners insistence on staying, the scuppered the deals. I don’t know if this is the truth but it did come from credible people, who I had no reason to disbelieve. WAQ would do well to address the fanbase and say something, it’s not great that we couldn’t go a day without him being in the media to now hearing nothing. I do not understand why he has become so quiet. |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 3, 2021 17:32:43 GMT
Not the thread for this but Cricketers and mental health problems is definitely not a new thing. David Frith’s book, Suicide of the Heart looks closely at the problems crickets have always had in this area and how a larger % of crickets committed suicide compared to other sportsmen. I won’t say it was an enjoyable book but it was informative and thought-provoking. An individual sport with the context of a team game. Unusual. If you want an more insight on this topic then read Spike Milligan on it. The way veterans were * treated* was by sleep therapy, they would be placed on heavy duty barbiturates and kept asleep, for very long periods. I have it here if you’d like to read it, found it whilst in hospital and taped it back together. I won’t comment on why cricketers suffer as I have no idea. Cheers KP. As to cricketers, not sure but the figures are quite high. UTG! |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 3, 2021 17:37:54 GMT
You were lucky to miss it. Complete shambles but I agree Tis should stay and sort it out. As for getting rid of the owner, you’re right completely ridiculous even if I understand the frustration gasheads are feeling at the moment. Looked to me that Ogogo and Upson were big misses last night despite the stick Upson gets sometimes. Let’s hope the players used the long journey home to feel embarrassed. That was awful, even worse than the match at York in December 12. No passion, no care, no determination, nothing. Down to the players not the manager although I suspect the manager will carry the can, players rarely seem to. UTG! As I have been led to believe, we had opportunities to change owners and get a stadium but it was the owners insistence on staying, the scuppered the deals. I don’t know if this is the truth but it did come from credible people, who I had no reason to disbelieve. WAQ would do well to address the fanbase and say something, it’s not great that we couldn’t go a day without him being in the media to now hearing nothing. I do not understand why he has become so quiet. Is that the fruit market site or the old UWE or elsewhere? I don’t hear the stuff you and other Bristol based people do so it’s always good to hear the other side. I guess my point was more related to the current situation and him bankrolling us whilst we have no other income currently. Whatever, anyone who missed last night did themselves a favour. UTG! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2021 17:50:37 GMT
As I have been led to believe, we had opportunities to change owners and get a stadium but it was the owners insistence on staying, the scuppered the deals. I don’t know if this is the truth but it did come from credible people, who I had no reason to disbelieve. WAQ would do well to address the fanbase and say something, it’s not great that we couldn’t go a day without him being in the media to now hearing nothing. I do not understand why he has become so quiet. Is that the fruit market site or the old UWE or elsewhere? I don’t hear the stuff you and other Bristol based people do so it’s always good to hear the other side. I guess my point was more related to the current situation and him bankrolling us whilst we have no other income currently. Whatever, anyone who missed last night did themselves a favour. UTG! Both my friend. I have now stopped digging around and asking anyone about what maybe going on as it does me no good and it seems that the majority are still very accepting, even grateful, of the situation we are in. Debts may have been turned into shares but that is not stopping the ongoing losses. What an awful mess, again. |
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