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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jan 16, 2021 17:00:04 GMT
FT 0-1.Awful and so lacking in quality.With relegation looking likely and the MEM rated 92 out of 92 for facilities,these are sad times.Our lack of goals,midfield creativity and sloppy defending are very worrying.Another defeat.Another blank goal wise and some players who clearly are either not up to it or don't care for the club in the way I do.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jan 16, 2021 17:04:56 GMT
Fair result, I think it is possible that keeper Day's view was blocked by a Rovers defender, but still a poor goal to concede, highlight of the second half was seeing the Barrel airborne!...
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Post by toteend3 on Jan 16, 2021 17:14:36 GMT
No Fans, No Luck, No Ozruner, No Nicholson, No Cutting Edge = NO GOALS!
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 16, 2021 17:14:54 GMT
It wasn't awful, disappointing maybe. The Turkish Meze is our most creative mid-fielder (unable to play against parent Club). Nicholson and Daly both dangerous up front and both injured. Our best defender and Captain Ehmer injured and our No. 1 keeper injured. That's 5 of our '1st choice' starting XI. So with a lack of depth - we struggled. We still managed to create a few chances, but the ball never fell kindly in the box. I don't think we'll go down. And neither do the bookies (I'll update that thread tomorrow). UTG.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 17:42:54 GMT
It wasn't awful, disappointing maybe. The Turkish Meze is our most creative mid-fielder (unable to play against parent Club). Nicholson and Daly both dangerous up front and both injured. Our best defender and Captain Ehmer injured and our No. 1 keeper injured. That's 5 of our '1st choice' starting XI. So with a lack of depth - we struggled. We still managed to create a few chances, but the ball never fell kindly in the box. I don't think we'll go down. And neither do the bookies (I'll update that thread tomorrow). UTG. Best pass the information from the bookies on to whichever team we are scheduled to lose to next epping. |
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Post by toteend3 on Jan 16, 2021 17:43:59 GMT
FT 0-1.Awful and so lacking in quality.With relegation looking likely and the MEM rated 92 out of 92 for facilities,these are sad times.Our lack of goals,midfield creativity and sloppy defending are very worrying.Another defeat.Another blank goal wise and some players who clearly are either not up to it or don't care for the club in the way I do. 92 out of 92 - That's Offal and its on a par with our trophy cabinet, with the only thing in it is a four pack of Watneys (The actual trophy was destroyed in the Eastvliie Fire and was the subject of a massive £5 insurance payout!) Currently, I am sat at home peeling potato's after watching on my mobile phone another defeat in the Covid Subbuto League. You know what? s**te Ground undoubtedly, but at precise moment I would love to be in the Supporters Bar with a quality cheese burger and a pint..... |
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Post by irishrover on Jan 16, 2021 18:01:28 GMT
It wasn't awful, disappointing maybe. The Turkish Meze is our most creative mid-fielder (unable to play against parent Club). Nicholson and Daly both dangerous up front and both injured. Our best defender and Captain Ehmer injured and our No. 1 keeper injured. That's 5 of our '1st choice' starting XI. So with a lack of depth - we struggled. We still managed to create a few chances, but the ball never fell kindly in the box. I don't think we'll go down. And neither do the bookies (I'll update that thread tomorrow). UTG. Yes - that's more or less how I saw it. We were 2nd best in the game but we weren't completely out of it. We had our moments and did well in patches but weren't consistent and didn't sustain the pressure for any length of time. Whereas they just about deserved to win for the 20 mins after half-time where they dictated the game. I don't quite understand those that are saying this was a terrible performance. A narrow defeat was probably about right but that's hardly a disaster against a side you would expect to be at least top 6 come the end of the season - and we ultimately lost to a fairly freakish (if thoroughly preventable) goal. So I'm not as down as others on this.
We didn't have enough variety in forward players on the field because they're all injured or N/A - not sure there's much that could have been done about that. With no Nicholson or Daly we looked very one paced going forward and lacked any players who were really going to get beyond the midfield line and run at them a bit to open up space for the strikers who I thought had a bit of thankless task at times because you have 2 up front but not much width and no really creating anything for them. I don't quite get the Anti-Ayunga stuff - I think he's looked a passable targetman in the games I've seen. He fluffed a chance but I thought he worked hard, created opportunities and held the ball up well. The problem was further back than the forwards.
After they had a man sent off we started playing quite effective chip balls into the edge of the box for Hanlon and Ayunga to hold up and we actually looked quite dangerous doing that. I don't know why we weren't doing it more earlier - if you have to play 2 physical centre forwards you might as well use them with their backs to goal more especially if you don't have much in midfield that's going to open up space.
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Post by toteend3 on Jan 16, 2021 18:11:49 GMT
New bloke has had plenty of time now to assess the shambles left behind by Loser Boy. What are we going to do about it? Fast forward four months in time! |
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Post by basel on Jan 16, 2021 18:40:21 GMT
New bloke has had plenty of time now to assess the shambles left behind by Loser Boy. What are we going to do about it? Fast forward four months in time! Abit might get done in the next couple of weeks. Maybe. |
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Post by basel on Jan 16, 2021 18:41:39 GMT
It wasn't awful, disappointing maybe. The Turkish Meze is our most creative mid-fielder (unable to play against parent Club). Nicholson and Daly both dangerous up front and both injured. Our best defender and Captain Ehmer injured and our No. 1 keeper injured. That's 5 of our '1st choice' starting XI. So with a lack of depth - we struggled. We still managed to create a few chances, but the ball never fell kindly in the box. I don't think we'll go down. And neither do the bookies (I'll update that thread tomorrow). UTG. Good post. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 16, 2021 19:47:30 GMT
Eight home defeats in league and cup three consecutive hone defeats in a week. We are a poor side in relegation trouble now.
Time to shop out a few on loan reduce wage bill but bring in an experienced striker. Jayden Stockley from PNE.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jan 17, 2021 2:49:19 GMT
I don't think the Ayunga/Hanlan partnership is going to bear much fruit, as much as anything they get in eachothers way, It is evident to me that Hanlan needs a small and nippy strike partner playing off his shoulder as we continue to hit long balls to Hanlan who 6 times out of 10 wins the ball but can only deflect it back to the oppo as nobody is anywhere near him, or he has to start running wide waiting for play to catch up, he is totally isolated, something similar to the Roberts/Cureton partnership would do nicely, we just need another Curo.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 17, 2021 6:45:57 GMT
Instead of playing the blame game how about saying he misjudged it like everyone else and thought it was going out for a goal kick. He hardly had all day to think about it and if he'd have kicked it for another corner he'd have been castigated for that. Even the commentators were fooled by that one. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 17, 2021 7:12:02 GMT
It wasn't awful, disappointing maybe. The Turkish Meze is our most creative mid-fielder (unable to play against parent Club). Nicholson and Daly both dangerous up front and both injured. Our best defender and Captain Ehmer injured and our No. 1 keeper injured. That's 5 of our '1st choice' starting XI. So with a lack of depth - we struggled. We still managed to create a few chances, but the ball never fell kindly in the box. I don't think we'll go down. And neither do the bookies (I'll update that thread tomorrow). UTG. Yep, not a lot of creativity out there today without Oz and Nicholson, players who can turn a game on its head, keep defenders occupied and get the best out of Hanlan, Westbrooke and McCormick. Without them we were pushed back for long spells due to our lack of momentum. Daly's opportunism is greatly missed too. But it's all scapegoat Grant's fault for misjudging a mis**t corner like everybody else  . |
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Post by 1883 on Jan 17, 2021 9:06:09 GMT
FT 0-1.Awful and so lacking in quality.With relegation looking likely and the MEM rated 92 out of 92 for facilities,these are sad times.Our lack of goals,midfield creativity and sloppy defending are very worrying.Another defeat.Another blank goal wise and some players who clearly are either not up to it or don't care for the club in the way I do. Relegation looking likely? I’ll be stunned if we go down this season. Burton are gone (P24 Pts16), Swindon struggling big time (P22 Pts20), and Wigan (P21 Pts20) & Wimbledon (P21 Pts21) both look more likely to go down than us (P19 Pts22) as things stand. We’ve won 3 from our last 5 in the league - which far exceeds relegation form - and were missing our two best/most creative attacking players yesterday in Ozzy & Nicholson. Once those two are back & we bring in a more experienced partner for Hanlan this month, we’ll be absolutely fine. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 17, 2021 9:22:47 GMT
I don't think the Ayunga/Hanlan partnership is going to bear much fruit, as much as anything they get in eachothers way, It is evident to me that Hanlan needs a small and nippy strike partner playing off his shoulder as we continue to hit long balls to Hanlan who 6 times out of 10 wins the ball but can only deflect it back to the oppo as nobody is anywhere near him, or he has to start running wide waiting for play to catch up, he is totally isolated, something similar to the Roberts/Cureton partnership would do nicely, we just need another Curo. Isn't the other Curo known as 'Daly', with a side serving of Nicholson? |
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Post by mangogas15 on Jan 17, 2021 10:36:54 GMT
Instead of playing the blame game how about saying he misjudged it like everyone else and thought it was going out for a goal kick. He hardly had all day to think about it and if he'd have kicked it for another corner he'd have been castigated for that. Even the commentators were fooled by that one. Fair comment. The risk of leaving the ball there with no one behind you is that it goes in. Had my old kids team conceded that goal, to eventually lose 1-0 we would have practiced defending corners in training after that. It was 100% his responsibility to make sure that ball didn't get through, in a tight game that I thought we competed very well in, against a team with 6 internationals. We were in it up to that point, conceding such a poorly defended goal like that was criminal. It requires 100% concentration from professionals at every minute and second of the game. We defended well overall and deserved a clean sheet with a decent keeper. Therefore I blame Grant for the goal and no one will persuade me otherwise, although I accept the other point of view. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 17, 2021 10:45:20 GMT
I would like to say just got back, but that wouldn't be true!
I haven't scrolled through thread (yet, will do after) as I don't want to be influenced. I just thought to post after slept on it.
Leading up to the match, I was optimistic. Rochdale managed to hit 4 in midweek against them, Accy had beaten them before that. We had put on a decent display v Sheffield United, our set piece play was threatening and I liked that Ehmer was not included with a credible orthodox replacement. I thought our starting line up looked balanced, both in mixture of youth and experience; and in players in correct positions. What we weren't balanced in was, form.
Day makes his 3rd debut in a week. A league, debut.... apart from a howler in him, I generally like his approach. 1 own goal, 1 deflected goal, 1 goal from corner, on each debut is relegation luck isn't it!?
Alfie captain. Hmmmm.... Heart instinctively likes that appointment, but Head says is that because there's no other realistic candidate. Both are potential worries. Especially when you're a few points away from relegation battle.
I liked his contribution though, and for me was in the mix for a man of match award.
We play 2 up front! Hallelujah! 2 bone fide strikers. A first, this season? Certainly never seriously explored and persevered under BG. Unfortunately, JA didn't have his best performance, but a raw product can be worked with. Hopefully a working progress.....but we
need a Brandon partner striker striking NOW.
Westbrook. He gets the gig because there's literally no one else in central midfield with a creative pass in them in our squad. Granted, some of his dead ball deliveries are scintillating, but in open play we have to rely on the crossing of Hare, Grant or Leahy. Zain did play a lovely through ball which got cut back in second half, but my main observation is he slows up play with picking his passes. It's a shame he was our only creative outlet, I would have brought Rodman on much earlier (for upson) as we were severely lacking in counter attacking options.
Our mid and forward line lacked pace. Tempo was slowed when we had the ball and our passing movement and basic technical abilities were poor and lacking moving forward. We were easy to defend against. That's credit to Charlton, who went about their business efficiently and could have easily been 1 or 2 up in first half save squandered chances.
A disappointing day. I thought we had some decent moves in us (McCormick chance) but we too hampered by an attack lacking pace and creativity. We desperately miss Oz, Nicholson, Daly..
Some tough matches approaching, we definitely need 1 or 2 new striking options at least. In Tis we trust, but Charlton are a good example of where you need to be to realistically compete physically at this level, and we are way off that atm..
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Post by basel on Jan 17, 2021 10:51:35 GMT
Instead of playing the blame game how about saying he misjudged it like everyone else and thought it was going out for a goal kick. He hardly had all day to think about it and if he'd have kicked it for another corner he'd have been castigated for that. Even the commentators were fooled by that one. Fair comment. The risk of leaving the ball there with no one behind you is that it goes in. Had my old kids team conceded that goal, to eventually lose 1-0 we would have practiced defending corners in training after that. It was 100% his responsibility to make sure that ball didn't get through, in a tight game that I thought we competed very well in, against a team with 6 internationals. We were in it up to that point, conceding such a poorly defended goal like that was criminal. It requires 100% concentration from professionals at every minute and second of the game. We defended well overall and deserved a clean sheet with a decent keeper. Therefore I blame Grant for the goal and no one will persuade me otherwise, although I accept the other point of view. Near post responsibility failure from Josh Grant. I'm sure a lesson learnt and next time,the ball goes for a corner ,cleared or possibly a 'manager heart attack' manoeuvre of control,dummy and pass. First option much preferred. Second option okay (depends on a detail or two,players preferred foot,exact way the ball arrives etc),but not as 'safe' option one. Third option you're on very thin ice indeed. :-) |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 17, 2021 10:52:07 GMT
Almost correct: Garner's fault. 😁 |
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