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Mar 18, 2020 21:22:55 GMT
Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 18, 2020 21:22:55 GMT
I’m finding FM20 quite effective for football fix. Got full version on laptop, it seems quite realistic, immersive, you in office with chalkboard with strategy to win games, but that means managing them temperamental beings in other room to realise your vision in the match. I think FM simulators in past had you too much of the boss, not having to work with the power of the dressing room.
It’s opened my eyes too, where the power lies in the different rooms in the building, what the role of manager actually is these days. Also tactics, how you need hooks, connecting your df and sitting midfield to the attack, and you need runners, and pressing. Also you can’t just say play like this, they need to work on it get fluid. And then you actually win a game, fist pumps, after peering through fingers in the closing stages
Go for it. FM20 full download from steam. It will feed anyone’s football craving in this coming drought
Who was our resident FM expert? Was it Gregory Stevens
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Mar 19, 2020 4:03:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 4:03:31 GMT
Where is Gregory Stevens?
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 19, 2020 4:36:08 GMT
I'm still on Championship Manager 2 1996 as Rovers - Desperately trying to avoid relegation!.
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Post by Rex on Mar 19, 2020 8:54:38 GMT
I’m finding FM20 quite effective for football fix. Got full version on laptop, it seems quite realistic, immersive, you in office with chalkboard with strategy to win games, but that means managing them temperamental beings in other room to realise your vision in the match. I think FM simulators in past had you too much of the boss, not having to work with the power of the dressing room. It’s opened my eyes too, where the power lies in the different rooms in the building, what the role of manager actually is these days. Also tactics, how you need hooks, connecting your df and sitting midfield to the attack, and you need runners, and pressing. Also you can’t just say play like this, they need to work on it get fluid. And then you actually win a game, fist pumps, after peering through fingers in the closing stages Go for it. FM20 full download from steam. It will feed anyone’s football craving in this coming drought Who was our resident FM expert? Was it Gregory Stevens I hope I'm not the only one who read that and had no idea whatsoever what the post was about ! (It's okay, I have googled it now, so am - ever so slightly- wiser ) |
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Mar 19, 2020 11:33:00 GMT
Post by irishrover on Mar 19, 2020 11:33:00 GMT
I’m finding FM20 quite effective for football fix. Got full version on laptop, it seems quite realistic, immersive, you in office with chalkboard with strategy to win games, but that means managing them temperamental beings in other room to realise your vision in the match. I think FM simulators in past had you too much of the boss, not having to work with the power of the dressing room. It’s opened my eyes too, where the power lies in the different rooms in the building, what the role of manager actually is these days. Also tactics, how you need hooks, connecting your df and sitting midfield to the attack, and you need runners, and pressing. Also you can’t just say play like this, they need to work on it get fluid. And then you actually win a game, fist pumps, after peering through fingers in the closing stages Go for it. FM20 full download from steam. It will feed anyone’s football craving in this coming drought Who was our resident FM expert? Was it Gregory Stevens To me this is the issue with modern management sims. They're too realistic. I never actually wanted to BE a football manager. It strikes me as a really difficult, stressful and tedious job quite a lot of the time. What a I wanted to do was pretend to be a football manager - a totally different proposition ie. I'll have all the good bits please and leave out the crap bits like having to develop bespoke training regimes or dealing with the press. To me Management simulations peaked in this respect with 00/01 CM and 01/02 CM. After that they got far too serious. Anyone remember Ultimate Soccer Manager in the mid-90s - it was very tongue in cheek. On that one you could take bungs and bet against your own team in order to build up your transfer kitty. You could also randomly tell a player to get a haircut or to stop going to nightclubs even though it made no impact on their actual performance whatoever. Now that was fun!
It was escapism I wanted not realism. I wanted a world where I could win the Champions League with Rovers in 4 seasons - not where I'm battling uphill to finish 10th in League 1. It's hard enough to deal with that reality already!
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Mar 19, 2020 11:45:41 GMT
Post by Peter Parker on Mar 19, 2020 11:45:41 GMT
I’m finding FM20 quite effective for football fix. Got full version on laptop, it seems quite realistic, immersive, you in office with chalkboard with strategy to win games, but that means managing them temperamental beings in other room to realise your vision in the match. I think FM simulators in past had you too much of the boss, not having to work with the power of the dressing room. It’s opened my eyes too, where the power lies in the different rooms in the building, what the role of manager actually is these days. Also tactics, how you need hooks, connecting your df and sitting midfield to the attack, and you need runners, and pressing. Also you can’t just say play like this, they need to work on it get fluid. And then you actually win a game, fist pumps, after peering through fingers in the closing stages Go for it. FM20 full download from steam. It will feed anyone’s football craving in this coming drought Who was our resident FM expert? Was it Gregory Stevens To me this is the issue with modern management sims. They're too realistic. I never actually wanted to BE a football manager. It strikes me as a really difficult, stressful and tedious job quite a lot of the time. What a I wanted to do was pretend to be a football manager - a totally different proposition ie. I'll have all the good bits please and leave out the crap bits like having to develop bespoke training regimes or dealing with the press. To me Management simulations peaked in this respect with 00/01 CM and 01/02 CM. After that they got far too serious. Anyone remember Ultimate Soccer Manager in the mid-90s - it was very tongue in cheek. On that one you could take bungs and bet against your own team in order to build up your transfer kitty. You could also randomly tell a player to get a haircut or to stop going to nightclubs even though it made no impact on their actual performance whatoever. Now that was fun!
It was escapism I wanted not realism. I wanted a world where I could win the Champions League with Rovers in 4 seasons - not where I'm battling uphill to finish 10th in League 1. It's hard enough to deal with that reality already!
you can download CM 01/02 for free. got it on my laptop
also champman0102.co.uk/forum.php is a great website for it. can get various downloads of up to date squads and start the game in 2019 if you want they have even re written the transfer windows and loan rules etc to reflect the more modern stuff.
I like playing the original game with the original patches, but used a download where someone has spent years editing it adding the likes of 14 year old Messi and tweaking player stats so you can't just buy the super players from the original game that everyone who has played knows about to buy
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Mar 19, 2020 11:53:02 GMT
Post by irishrover on Mar 19, 2020 11:53:02 GMT
To me this is the issue with modern management sims. They're too realistic. I never actually wanted to BE a football manager. It strikes me as a really difficult, stressful and tedious job quite a lot of the time. What a I wanted to do was pretend to be a football manager - a totally different proposition ie. I'll have all the good bits please and leave out the crap bits like having to develop bespoke training regimes or dealing with the press. To me Management simulations peaked in this respect with 00/01 CM and 01/02 CM. After that they got far too serious. Anyone remember Ultimate Soccer Manager in the mid-90s - it was very tongue in cheek. On that one you could take bungs and bet against your own team in order to build up your transfer kitty. You could also randomly tell a player to get a haircut or to stop going to nightclubs even though it made no impact on their actual performance whatoever. Now that was fun!
It was escapism I wanted not realism. I wanted a world where I could win the Champions League with Rovers in 4 seasons - not where I'm battling uphill to finish 10th in League 1. It's hard enough to deal with that reality already!
you can download CM 01/02 for free. got it on my laptop
also champman0102.co.uk/forum.php is a great website for it. can get various downloads of up to date squads and start the game in 2019 if you want they have even re written the transfer windows and loan rules etc to reflect the more modern stuff.
I like playing the original game with the original patches, but used a download where someone has spent years editing it adding the likes of 14 year old Messi and tweaking player stats so you can't just buy the super players from the original game that everyone who has played knows about to buy
Yeah, thanks. I know all about that community. But fear committing to it for the impact it might have on my capacity to get anything else done! If ever there was a time though I suppose..... |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 19, 2020 12:03:49 GMT
I’m finding FM20 quite effective for football fix. Got full version on laptop, it seems quite realistic, immersive, you in office with chalkboard with strategy to win games, but that means managing them temperamental beings in other room to realise your vision in the match. I think FM simulators in past had you too much of the boss, not having to work with the power of the dressing room. It’s opened my eyes too, where the power lies in the different rooms in the building, what the role of manager actually is these days. Also tactics, how you need hooks, connecting your df and sitting midfield to the attack, and you need runners, and pressing. Also you can’t just say play like this, they need to work on it get fluid. And then you actually win a game, fist pumps, after peering through fingers in the closing stages Go for it. FM20 full download from steam. It will feed anyone’s football craving in this coming drought Who was our resident FM expert? Was it Gregory Stevens To me this is the issue with modern management sims. They're too realistic. I never actually wanted to BE a football manager. It strikes me as a really difficult, stressful and tedious job quite a lot of the time. What a I wanted to do was pretend to be a football manager - a totally different proposition ie. I'll have all the good bits please and leave out the crap bits like having to develop bespoke training regimes or dealing with the press. To me Management simulations peaked in this respect with 00/01 CM and 01/02 CM. After that they got far too serious. Anyone remember Ultimate Soccer Manager in the mid-90s - it was very tongue in cheek. On that one you could take bungs and bet against your own team in order to build up your transfer kitty. You could also randomly tell a player to get a haircut or to stop going to nightclubs even though it made no impact on their actual performance whatoever. Now that was fun!
It was escapism I wanted not realism. I wanted a world where I could win the Champions League with Rovers in 4 seasons - not where I'm battling uphill to finish 10th in League 1. It's hard enough to deal with that reality already!
I downloaded FM Touch for the iPad so I didn't have to sit at a computer all the time and to be honest, it is a bit of a throwback to the early 00s management games in that all you have to control are signings, tactics and training (if you want to!). You get the 3D match engine from FM but less of the other stuff that bogs down the desktop version so you can rip through a season if you, as I invariably do, get stuck into it. Currently top of the Conference with Gloucester playing some bloody lovely football and Jennison Myrie Williams banging in the goals - I'm warming to the Sheed! |
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Mar 23, 2020 11:02:01 GMT
Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 23, 2020 11:02:01 GMT
To me this is the issue with modern management sims. They're too realistic. I never actually wanted to BE a football manager. It strikes me as a really difficult, stressful and tedious job quite a lot of the time. What a I wanted to do was pretend to be a football manager - a totally different proposition ie. I'll have all the good bits please and leave out the crap bits like having to develop bespoke training regimes or dealing with the press. To me Management simulations peaked in this respect with 00/01 CM and 01/02 CM. After that they got far too serious. Anyone remember Ultimate Soccer Manager in the mid-90s - it was very tongue in cheek. On that one you could take bungs and bet against your own team in order to build up your transfer kitty. You could also randomly tell a player to get a haircut or to stop going to nightclubs even though it made no impact on their actual performance whatoever. Now that was fun!
It was escapism I wanted not realism. I wanted a world where I could win the Champions League with Rovers in 4 seasons - not where I'm battling uphill to finish 10th in League 1. It's hard enough to deal with that reality already!
I downloaded FM Touch for the iPad so I didn't have to sit at a computer all the time and to be honest, it is a bit of a throwback to the early 00s management games in that all you have to control are signings, tactics and training (if you want to!). You get the 3D match engine from FM but less of the other stuff that bogs down the desktop version so you can rip through a season if you, as I invariably do, get stuck into it. Currently top of the Conference with Gloucester playing some bloody lovely football and Jennison Myrie Williams banging in the goals - I'm warming to the Sheed! I done FM touch last couple of years, it is closer to the old throwback games. however the added bits on the full version provides added realism to try and master. The journalists seem to be probing for a headline and story with currency. And we need to avoid that trap. And opponents try old Ferguson mind tricks, need to be conscious of those as well. As well as a bit more of a challenge, it’s educational in how manager performs in front a mic impacts what the club fans think of him, shapes share price in world of football. Clever football sim. |
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Mar 23, 2020 11:12:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 11:12:49 GMT
Takes all sorts I suppose.
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Mar 23, 2020 11:52:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 11:52:10 GMT
Takes all sorts I suppose. It was the phrase "I have done FM touch" that got to me. I mean...wtf |
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Mar 23, 2020 12:52:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 12:52:50 GMT
Takes all sorts I suppose. It was the phrase "I have done FM touch" that got to me. I mean...wtf We'll have an entire generation, who, when nearing the end and surrounded by family and friends, will have a close family member hold their hand and ask softly, 'looking back on your life, do you have any regrets?' The reply will come, 'Well, there's just one thing, I wish I had spent more than 20 hours a week doing FM touch while I was young and able bodied'. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 18:50:22 GMT
It was the phrase "I have done FM touch" that got to me. I mean...wtf We'll have an entire generation, who, when nearing the end and surrounded by family and friends, will have a close family member hold their hand and ask softly, 'looking back on your life, do you have any regrets?' The reply will come, 'Well, there's just one thing, I wish I had spent more than 20 hours a week doing FM touch while I was young and able bodied'. Which brings John Betjeman's reply to the same question... "Yes, I wish I had more sex" Into sharp relief |
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Mar 25, 2020 13:48:42 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 13:48:42 GMT
We'll have an entire generation, who, when nearing the end and surrounded by family and friends, will have a close family member hold their hand and ask softly, 'looking back on your life, do you have any regrets?' The reply will come, 'Well, there's just one thing, I wish I had spent more than 20 hours a week doing FM touch while I was young and able bodied'. Which brings John Betjeman's reply to the same question... "Yes, I wish I had more sex" Into sharp relief That gave me a belly laugh. Did he really say that ? |
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Mar 25, 2020 15:05:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 15:05:02 GMT
Which brings John Betjeman's reply to the same question... "Yes, I wish I had more sex" Into sharp relief That gave me a belly laugh. Did he really say that ? No, he didn't, not quite, it's actually; |
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Mar 25, 2020 15:07:23 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 15:07:23 GMT
That gave me a belly laugh. Did he really say that ? No, he didn't, not quite, it's actually; Thanks |
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Post by mangogas15 on Mar 25, 2020 17:52:18 GMT
FIFA20, 3rd on Pro level with Rovers, 3 games to go, play offs
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 25, 2020 21:47:21 GMT
FIFA20, 3rd on Pro level with Rovers, 3 games to go, play offs that’s the spirit. ignore the Unenlightened herd trying to crash our thread with poet laureate crap. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 25, 2020 21:49:31 GMT
No, he didn't, not quite, it's actually; Thanks actually Saki’s last words in trenches of World War One Are even better ”put that bloody cigarette out, you’re making us a target” |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 22:17:03 GMT
actually Saki’s last words in trenches of World War One Are even better ”put that bloody cigarette out, you’re making us a target”  Along those lines, Google the last words of General John Sedgwick. |
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