kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:08:47 GMT
Wael - General Melchett, Starnes - Boldrick, Garner - Edmond 'cunning plan' 'b'adder, Gorringe - Captain Darling Thank you so much for making I laugh. It’s much appreciated
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 8, 2020 12:22:41 GMT
Wael - General Melchett, Starnes - Boldrick, Garner - Edmond 'cunning plan' 'b'adder, Gorringe - Captain Darling Thank you so much for making I laugh. It’s much appreciated Pleasure Mr Polak, dark times require darker humour!...
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:27:38 GMT
Thank you so much for making I laugh. It’s much appreciated Pleasure Mr Polak, dark times require darker humour!... It was, in the main, the biggest reason I decided to support Rovers. Most of the other 2nd generation of kids from Polish heritage, went the other way. Then again, I never have been one to follow the mob. I always loved listening to the old supporters and their dry humour was just fantastic.
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basel
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Post by basel on Mar 8, 2020 12:28:47 GMT
“The players we had before Garner were doing just fine‘. I think Leahy and Upson have been crap all season. Hey, Emperor: I tend to disagree about Upson. In GC this season on the other forum, Upson was outfield m o m voted by fans the most and his scores voted by fans was the highest. He was discovering a bit of form. With the rearranged formation, that suited him, he looked a refreshed player especially when Ollie was injured/suspended. Things have changed now. Leahy I tend to agree with, and it's no coincidence that many goals emerge from his covering position....but then again our defence collectively look more vulnerable in last 18 matches than they did in previous 18. But hey, it's all about opinions.. Those same fans all agree though that we were in a false position all season. I never thought Rovers were in a false position.Wewere in the promotion race on merit.It was sustainable.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:46:32 GMT
Those same fans all agree though that we were in a false position all season. I never thought Rovers were in a false position.Wewere in the promotion race on merit.It was sustainable. I agree, as did several other tier 3 managers. We were being talked about as a physical and extremely difficult team to beat. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. I believe the crowds would have seen an upturn, had we managed to stay amongst the pack but, after hearing Starnes, I’m now even more convinced that it was just a matter of time before they got shot of GC. I could never, not in my wildest dreams, have imagined the utter mess that came of that change.
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Post by basel on Mar 8, 2020 12:50:57 GMT
I never thought Rovers were in a false position.We were in the promotion race on merit.It was sustainable. I agree, as did several other tier 3 managers. We were being talked about as a physical and extremely difficult team to beat. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. I believe the crowds would have seen an upturn, had we managed to stay amongst the pack but, after hearing Starnes, I’m now even more convinced that it was just a matter of time before they got shot of GC. I could never, not in my wildest dreams, have imagined the utter mess that came of that change. I feared we would go the same way as Lincoln after the brothers left them.zThe Imps managed to steady the ship,after a bad run. We of course have not.
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Post by basel on Mar 8, 2020 12:52:20 GMT
I agree, as did several other tier 3 managers. We were being talked about as a physical and extremely difficult team to beat. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. I believe the crowds would have seen an upturn, had we managed to stay amongst the pack but, after hearing Starnes, I’m now even more convinced that it was just a matter of time before they got shot of GC. I could never, not in my wildest dreams, have imagined the utter mess that came of that change. I feared we would go the same way as Lincoln after the brothers left them.zThe Imps managed to steady the ship,after a bad run. We of course have not,but I did'nt think it would be as bad as it is.BG is a useless manager.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:52:42 GMT
I agree, as did several other tier 3 managers. We were being talked about as a physical and extremely difficult team to beat. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. I believe the crowds would have seen an upturn, had we managed to stay amongst the pack but, after hearing Starnes, I’m now even more convinced that it was just a matter of time before they got shot of GC. I could never, not in my wildest dreams, have imagined the utter mess that came of that change. I feared we would go the same way as Lincoln after the brothers left them.zThe Imps managed to steady the ship,after a bad run. We of course have not. I was hopeful but stunned at how the situation played out
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Post by basel on Mar 8, 2020 12:55:12 GMT
I feared we would go the same way as Lincoln after the brothers left them.zThe Imps managed to steady the ship,after a bad run. We of course have not. I was hopeful but stunned at how the situation played out I edited (not very well) the above KP. It is worse than I feared.I mean BG is right down there with Buckle and Graydon.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:58:30 GMT
I was hopeful but stunned at how the situation played out I edited (not very well) the above KP. It is worse than I feared.I mean BG is right down there with Buckle and Graydon. You did ok and I did read the edited version. I couldn’t comment on Graydon as I stopped going, for 6 years, after the nearly season of 99/00
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 13:01:50 GMT
I was hopeful but stunned at how the situation played out I edited (not very well) the above KP. It is worse than I feared.I mean BG is right down there with Buckle and Graydon. He's not even that good! His record is worse than Phil Bater's! Honestly, I don't even recognise this club anymore. It's lack of ambition is completely alien to me and leaves me cold. I am at the point where it feels like I can no longer consider myself a Rovers supporter while Garner remains in charge if only because football is a results based business and we seem content not to get any results. Like our avian friend alluded to: it feels like Rovers are part of some bizarre experiment that no club has ever done before where we leave a failing manager in charge just to see what happens and how bad the damage can get. No-one cares at the club any more except the fans and soon we won't even have any left. Massive pressure needs to be exerted on the club to get Garner out because we are now in danger of getting relegated.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Mar 8, 2020 13:09:13 GMT
Don't agree with this at all. The players we had before Garner were doing just fine - no lack of effort and I don't think it was them that drove DC and GC round the bend - much more likely the politics and lunacy coming from the board in the case of the former, and the lack of respect and affection from us supporters in the case of the latter. What sort of manager insists on a total clear out of players from a team that was in 4th and on a great run of form before he arrives and then only win 1 in 18 after he tries changing everything. Garner is the real problem here - he'd be out of his depth in a puddle. Who are the journeymen on massive wages? Th only one I can think of is Bennett who I agree is truly woeful and definitely needs moving on at the earliest opportunity. The rest have either been OK at least (and very good in the case of Tony Craig). We also have a number of young players like Menayese and Kilgour who have been decent, and a number of promising new ones who haven't yet had much chance to show what they can do. I'm not sure why Widdrington gets stick too. Presumably he was involved in the likes of Jaakola, JCH, Hare, Tom Davies and Ogogo - none of whom have been terrible in my opinion “The players we had before Garner were doing just fine‘. I think Leahy and Upson have been crap all season. And Little. And the Dutch goalie. Meanwhile that tall centre back from covi has been a big miss. im going to throw a hand grenade into this discussion. The performances have fallen apart since you know who was bombed out side and sent to Cheltenham and not replaced in the number 10 role by Josh Barrel. Our team is playing without a hook joining deep sitting midfield 3 to the forward 2 or 3. The lack of number 10 is probably the main thing wrong here. I think there’s clear enough hints from Little Ben the barrel has not been training well enough to earn place in team Agree with quite a bit of this. I don’t think Leahy has been as bad as others do especially when we play 5 at the back. I’ve seen nothing in Upson but he’s not as bad as others we’ve had in midfield over the years like Craig Stanley or Rob Quinn (shudder). I certainly don’t see what the likes of Steve K see in him though. Agree Little has been really poor. Dutch goalie not great but ok for an understudy. Problem is with injury to Jaakola he has played more often than i’d like. Where i really do agree is on the lack of a link player. Nichols goal scoring record with us is obviously an issue but he was regularly playing as we surged up to 4th and he is technically decent at this level. Will be interesting to see how he gets on at Cheltenham
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Post by basel on Mar 8, 2020 13:09:23 GMT
I edited (not very well) the above KP. It is worse than I feared.I mean BG is right down there with Buckle and Graydon. He's not even that good! His record is worse than Phil Bater's! Honestly, I don't even recognise this club anymore. It's lack of ambition is completely alien to me and leaves me cold. I am at the point where it feels like I can no longer consider myself a Rovers supporter while Garner remains in charge if only because football is a results based business and we seem content not to get any results. Like our avian friend alluded to: it feels like Rovers are part of some bizarre experiment that no club has ever done before where we leave a failing manager in charge just to see what happens and how bad the damage can get. No-one cares at the club any more except the fans and soon we won't even have any left. Massive pressure needs to be exerted on the club to get Garner out because we are now in danger of getting relegated. I'm at the unless things change I won't renew my season ticket.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 8, 2020 20:59:13 GMT
I missed a trip to Roots Hall for the first time in about 25 years. I'm done. I can't justify the petrol and ticket prices to watch that crap on the pitch. The inescapable truth is that we're owned by idiots. They have no vision. They're not remotely professional. They are clueless. Our manager is hopelessly out of his depth. Sadly it's "Goodnight Irene" from me. Accrington away and Union Berlin / Paderborn are the only fixtures on my list for the rest of the season.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 9, 2020 12:19:25 GMT
I missed a trip to Roots Hall for the first time in about 25 years. I'm done. I can't justify the petrol and ticket prices to watch that crap on the pitch. The inescapable truth is that we're owned by idiots. They have no vision. They're not remotely professional. They are clueless. Our manager is hopelessly out of his depth. Sadly it's "Goodnight Irene" from me. Accrington away and Union Berlin / Paderborn are the only fixtures on my list for the rest of the season. Who could blame you, really ? It’s one thing being a loyal fan, one with hope but totally another, when you know you are going to see the same thing over and over. I would quit but my closest friend would make me feel rotten if I stopped plus we have an ongoing driving arrangement, that has gone on over many seasons. I envy you
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 9, 2020 13:44:06 GMT
Those same fans all agree though that we were in a false position all season. I never thought Rovers were in a false position.Wewere in the promotion race on merit.It was sustainable. Sheff Utd are in a false position but I can't here their fans complaining
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Post by basel on Mar 9, 2020 14:14:29 GMT
I never thought Rovers were in a false position.Wewere in the promotion race on merit.It was sustainable. Sheff Utd are in a false position but I can't here their fans complaining I think Blades,like us,are/were not in a false position. We were challenging because we were good. We are struggling now because we are crap.
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