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Post by simonj on Jan 15, 2020 10:32:20 GMT
Just watched the goals. I think the last one was the worst of the bunch to concede. There is probably no coincidence, our No1 has been injured and that would affect most teams at our level.
Am I trying to be optimistic, I don't think so. I like most of us am astounded how it feels at BRFC, the complete lack of anything and everything. Surely something somewhere somehow must be actually happening. Owners that cared but couldn't offer anything, owners that cared and tried things, but didnt have the clout to deliver, or owners that seemed to be on the face of it, loaded with cash and coming into a club on the crest of a wave, but seeming to have no interest and certainly no idea how to keep the fans onside.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 15, 2020 10:32:31 GMT
We can concentrate on play offs / relegation battle now Ok arry we get the message 9 points, 3 wins could be enough to secure safety. Meanwhile, with coco’s walk out, the club have gone into a transition mode, Nichols, and others told they are not wanted come February in a long needed clear out, new faces to come in to a 4 4 2 formation. in such circumstances this flip flop of form is perfectly reasonable. Us fans are in a good place, no relegation, at least not this year, no promotion, at least unlikely, exciting 4 4 2 possession football to be gradually worked on ready for next season. Let others sweat both ends of table, embrace mid table and beginning of an upward curve. You cannot be an adventurer without an unknown to explore. We are Venturing forth together into unknown territory.Each and every one of us venturing now into this new landscape, guided by our hearts, our love, our faith in our club. Let your blue and white heart beat with ours, let us travel this way together. God bless you, and God bless the united fans of Bristol Rovers. UTG I thought it was more of a 4-3-3 but that's irrelevant because Coughlan's 5-3-2 was perfect for the players at his disposal and the ones he brought in, so why change it when it got us to 4th with defenders and deep midfielders putting their bodies on the line? Our lack of a skilful attacking midfielder and a forward good enough to partner Clarke-Harris was common knowledge and I would imagine was the next step in Coughlan's team build before he so unceremoniously jumped ship. Many fans said Coughlan's style was boring as though it was the finished article, but he would have tweaked it as he went along because his 5-3-2 instilled confidence, something that is much easier to build upon than shaking it all up and regressing back to what would have taken us down a year ago had Coughlan not intervened. Sheer madness to bring a greenhorn in at that stage of the season, especially with the players in smelling distance of the playoffs. Stick with the 5-3-2 and play Barrett as the skilful midfielder behind the front 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 10:36:29 GMT
Let's deal with the relegation thing. 53 points is on average what's been needed over the last 10 years to be safe in L1, but this season we have the weirdness of 3 down and 2 of them on 10 pts or less by now. IMO there is one place up for grabs. We have 22 games left as do most of the league. Blackpool are also in free fall. Tranmere currently occupy 3rd bottom on 22 pts. 53 might not be enough as everyone is taking points off Bolton and Southend. We are currently on 36, needing 6 wins at least. Tranmere would need 31 more pts to get 53, that's a tall order for them i feel. Should be ok but it might be close, especially if the current run and mentality continues.
If we are seriously calculating relegation points, ill join and say 4 wins and a draw will be plenty this year.
Have you watched us in recent weeks? We will need some luck to get 4 draws and 1 win. |
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 15, 2020 10:38:35 GMT
Have we still got the suggestion box? Up here Vale and Crewe have regular forums with the fans where they can question the board.We have a suggestion Box!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S Do we have a proper board of Directors? Anyone out there Mr Wael. [ How big a box do you require? |
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Post by simonj on Jan 15, 2020 11:25:12 GMT
If we are seriously calculating relegation points, ill join and say 4 wins and a draw will be plenty this year.
Have you watched us in recent weeks? We will need some luck to get 4 draws and 1 win. In fairness, I have thought that since Aug, the tripe being offered up, fair play we were getting results. I think the results will come back as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 11:31:53 GMT
Have you watched us in recent weeks? We will need some luck to get 4 draws and 1 win. In fairness, I have thought that since Aug, the tripe being offered up, fair play we were getting results. I think the results will come back as well. If we can keep Garner away and get back to what was working, we have a chance. If he returns and brings his confused thinking with him, don't be surprised if we set a new record for number of League games without a win. I'm being serious. The Doncaster game was a total mess in terms of formation and tactics. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 11:38:30 GMT
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Post by mangogas15 on Jan 15, 2020 12:06:46 GMT
Have we still got the suggestion box? Up here Vale and Crewe have regular forums with the fans where they can question the board.We have a suggestion Box!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S Do we have a proper board of Directors? Anyone out there Mr Wael. Then again, I heard Joe Ledley wanted to join Rovers ahead of Newport because of the setup here as opposed to the apparent shambles there |
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Post by basel on Jan 15, 2020 12:54:06 GMT
Have we still got the suggestion box? Up here Vale and Crewe have regular forums with the fans where they can question the board.We have a suggestion Box!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S Do we have a proper board of Directors? Anyone out there Mr Wael. Then again, I heard Joe Ledley wanted to join Rovers ahead of Newport because of the setup here as opposed to the apparent shambles there Joe Ledley. Injury prone? I mean why is he without a club? |
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Post by mangogas15 on Jan 15, 2020 12:56:23 GMT
Then again, I heard Joe Ledley wanted to join Rovers ahead of Newport because of the setup here as opposed to the apparent shambles there Joe Ledley. Injury prone? I mean why is he without a club? Bad advice by an agent allegedly |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jan 16, 2020 0:00:37 GMT
Ok arry we get the message 9 points, 3 wins could be enough to secure safety. Meanwhile, with coco’s walk out, the club have gone into a transition mode, Nichols, and others told they are not wanted come February in a long needed clear out, new faces to come in to a 4 4 2 formation. in such circumstances this flip flop of form is perfectly reasonable. Us fans are in a good place, no relegation, at least not this year, no promotion, at least unlikely, exciting 4 4 2 possession football to be gradually worked on ready for next season. Let others sweat both ends of table, embrace mid table and beginning of an upward curve. You cannot be an adventurer without an unknown to explore. We are Venturing forth together into unknown territory.Each and every one of us venturing now into this new landscape, guided by our hearts, our love, our faith in our club. Let your blue and white heart beat with ours, let us travel this way together. God bless you, and God bless the united fans of Bristol Rovers. UTG I thought it was more of a 4-3-3 but that's irrelevant because Coughlan's 5-3-2 was perfect for the players at his disposal and the ones he brought in, so why change it when it got us to 4th with defenders and deep midfielders putting their bodies on the line? Our lack of a skilful attacking midfielder and a forward good enough to partner Clarke-Harris was common knowledge and I would imagine was the next step in Coughlan's team build before he so unceremoniously jumped ship. Many fans said Coughlan's style was boring as though it was the finished article, but he would have tweaked it as he went along because his 5-3-2 instilled confidence, something that is much easier to build upon than shaking it all up and regressing back to what would have taken us down a year ago had Coughlan not intervened. Sheer madness to bring a greenhorn in at that stage of the season, especially with the players in smelling distance of the playoffs. Stick with the 5-3-2 and play Barrett as the skilful midfielder behind the front 2. I’m probably not alone suspecting this slump would have happened even if Cocko stayed. The width of this injury crisis at just the wrong time considering number of fixtures in this period. Key players unfit, such as the keeper. Also Cocko didnt start season with this game plan, he stumbled on it, it probably wasn’t his favoured personality’s in it during the unbeaten run if all fit, and at that time Cocko himself told us he would change it when he could as opponents were starting to suss us out and setting up accordingly. The Donny game was a case in point, we were crying out for a switch to 4 4 2 long before half time because the pockets of space our 5 3 1 1 was affording them. In complete opposite of your view i was disappointed Garner bottled it and reverted to the set up that brought cocko success, because I am not sure cocko himself would have played the back five rather than 4 with two up last Saturday. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Jan 16, 2020 7:21:09 GMT
I thought it was more of a 4-3-3 but that's irrelevant because Coughlan's 5-3-2 was perfect for the players at his disposal and the ones he brought in, so why change it when it got us to 4th with defenders and deep midfielders putting their bodies on the line? Our lack of a skilful attacking midfielder and a forward good enough to partner Clarke-Harris was common knowledge and I would imagine was the next step in Coughlan's team build before he so unceremoniously jumped ship. Many fans said Coughlan's style was boring as though it was the finished article, but he would have tweaked it as he went along because his 5-3-2 instilled confidence, something that is much easier to build upon than shaking it all up and regressing back to what would have taken us down a year ago had Coughlan not intervened. Sheer madness to bring a greenhorn in at that stage of the season, especially with the players in smelling distance of the playoffs. Stick with the 5-3-2 and play Barrett as the skilful midfielder behind the front 2. I’m probably not alone suspecting this slump would have happened even if Cocko stayed. The width of this injury crisis at just the wrong time considering number of fixtures in this period. Key players unfit, such as the keeper. Also Cocko didnt start season with this game plan, he stumbled on it, it probably wasn’t his favoured personality’s in it during the unbeaten run if all fit, and at that time Cocko himself told us he would change it when he could as opponents were starting to suss us out and setting up accordingly. The Donny game was a case in point, we were crying out for a switch to 4 4 2 long before half time because the pockets of space our 5 3 1 1 was affording them. In complete opposite of your view i was disappointed Garner bottled it and reverted to the set up that brought cocko success, because I am not sure cocko himself would have played the back five rather than 4 with two up last Saturday. On the contrary, I don't think the Goalkeeper would have got injured as we would not have set up or started the way we did at MK under GC. The injury was down to a freak injury punching a cross clear but we were on the back foot from the off. I still blame him though. |
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 16, 2020 23:06:45 GMT
I've got some good news. We know we're in a vicious death spiral - but the bookies don't. Rovers are still 200-1 to go down. I'm not saying they definitely will. But I think the odds should be 1/10th of that (if not tighter). For the price of a Supporters Club pint you could earn yourself £840. For those of you that may want to emotionally hedge themselves against the worst coming to the worst... Betfair are still offering 175-1 for Gas relegation. (Skybet tightened from 200-1 to 100-1 in the last couple of days). I'm talking about a couple of quid to pay your bar bill should very bad things happen and sorrows may need to be drowned. |
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Post by billyocean on Jan 16, 2020 23:30:16 GMT
I've got some good news. We know we're in a vicious death spiral - but the bookies don't. Rovers are still 200-1 to go down. I'm not saying they definitely will. But I think the odds should be 1/10th of that (if not tighter). For the price of a Supporters Club pint you could earn yourself £840. For those of you that may want to emotionally hedge themselves against the worst coming to the worst... Betfair are still offering 175-1 for Gas relegation. (Skybet tightened from 200-1 to 100-1 in the last couple of days). I'm talking about a couple of quid to pay your bar bill should very bad things happen and sorrows may need to be drowned. 66/1 on WillHill so that 175/1 seems very good. I just can’t do it. Haven’t bet on Rovers since I used to place £3 on Nichols to score a hat trick every week. He got 1 once. |
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 17, 2020 7:35:43 GMT
For those of you that may want to emotionally hedge themselves against the worst coming to the worst... Betfair are still offering 175-1 for Gas relegation. (Skybet tightened from 200-1 to 100-1 in the last couple of days). I'm talking about a couple of quid to pay your bar bill should very bad things happen and sorrows may need to be drowned. 66/1 on WillHill so that 175/1 seems very good. I just can’t do it. Haven’t bet on Rovers since I used to place £3 on Nichols to score a hat trick every week. He got 1 once. You sure about that? Surely not even in the checkaturd trophy... |
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 19, 2020 10:20:43 GMT
For those of you that may want to emotionally hedge themselves against the worst coming to the worst... Betfair are still offering 175-1 for Gas relegation. (Skybet tightened from 200-1 to 100-1 in the last couple of days). I'm talking about a couple of quid to pay your bar bill should very bad things happen and sorrows may need to be drowned. 66/1 on WillHill so that 175/1 seems very good. I just can’t do it. Haven’t bet on Rovers since I used to place £3 on Nichols to score a hat trick every week. He got 1 once. Best price now 100-1 (Ladbrokes/Coral which are the same company). I'm not saying we're going down... but given the turmoil on and off the pitch 100-1 still represents value for money. On the one hand "all" we need is around 15 points to stay up (barring a statistical anomaly). On the other hand - where is the next win going to come from given we can't score "a goal"? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 11:54:07 GMT
That 200/1 was a great deal.
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