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Post by warehamgas on May 29, 2019 19:34:53 GMT
I know it’s a very small group of posters interested in cricket but as it is a major sporting event I will start a thread for this years World Cup. Haven’t seen much of the warm up games so I can’t go too much on what I’ve not seen but I’m looking forward to it. Let’s hope it’s all about the cricket and not about other stuff. I hope England do well and they look strong but Australia won’t be far away and India should be a strong team.
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Post by irishrover on May 29, 2019 23:01:43 GMT
You jumped the gun on me!
The truth is the Cricket World Cup has a bit of a chequered history (although the last 2 have been good). Politics has got in the way of quite a few tournaments with some teams refusing to travel to play certain host countries in 1987, 1996 and 2003 while the 1999 World Cup in England was more or less a total disaster all round (weather, organisation, home side performance etc) apart from that memorable Aus-SA Semi Final and the 2007 one was overshadowed by the dark circumstances of Bob Woolmers death. Also, England have been absolutely dire at World Cup's since 1992. So I just hope for a good cricket tournament where we do well and there's no nonsense. Hopefully we'll get everything right this year that we got hopelessly wrong the last time we hosted it.
I have tickets to New Zealand v South Africa, England v Afghanistan and West Indies v Sri Lanka so hoping to see some exciting cricket.
Heart says England will win it but I have my doubts that you can play the way we do when the knock out stage kicks in. I fear a repeat of the Champions Trophy where we boss the group stage and then have a batting failure in the semi's. I just worry whether you can bat with that freedom when the pressure is truly on - it will be fun to find out though. It will also be interesting to see if Jofra Archer is the final piece in the puzzle. You just worry that the Aussies will peak at the right time yet again, India will fire, Pakistan will battle their way through etc. When you have such little history of One Day success its easy to be slightly in awe of others. The other team I hope does well is the Windies - I think they could be very entertaining in an old school Carribean way.
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Post by warehamgas on May 30, 2019 10:57:59 GMT
The one I remember is the one in the WI I think when coverage stopped with the final still playing. At least it’s not just the ECB who are poor and couldn’t organise a p*** u* in a brewery.! I reckon this time the coverage and the cricket will be far better and I suspect it will run very smoothly. Let’s hope so.
Oh dear Roy and Root just out in quick succession! Going to have to dig in for these middle overs now but I’m not sure Morgan will do that. We’ll see.
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Post by jackthegas on May 31, 2019 9:10:12 GMT
I watched most of yesterday’s game on the TV and I thought England were really impressive. I think they’ll have got more out of that win than they would have got had they 370 and bowled South Africa out for 350. We know they can win games like that. I thought the pitch was tacky and slow and England assessed conditions really well and posted a score that I felt was just about par for the conditions. A less experienced team may have been bowled out for 260 chasing 350 or been overwhelmed by some good bowling and played too conservatively and posted 260.
England’s fielding was superb as well. The Stokes catch was obviously the highlight but I thought their ground fielding stood out. I reckon they recorded a net gain of 30/40 runs when compared to South Africa. Roy in particular was immaculate. Given the pressure they were under I think it was a really mature performance and I feel more confident now than I did this time yesterday. The pressure will reduce from here at least in the rest of the group stage. It was the first game, we lost Bairstow early and had to contend with an early start. I know it will ramp up again if we reach the semis but it was encouraging.
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Post by irishrover on May 31, 2019 9:50:28 GMT
I watched most of yesterday’s game on the TV and I thought England were really impressive. I think they’ll have got more out of that win than they would have got had they 370 and bowled South Africa out for 350. We know they can win games like that. I thought the pitch was tacky and slow and England assessed conditions really well and posted a score that I felt was just about par for the conditions. A less experienced team may have been bowled out for 260 chasing 350 or been overwhelmed by some good bowling and played too conservatively and posted 260. England’s fielding was superb as well. The Stokes catch was obviously the highlight but I thought their ground fielding stood out. I reckon they recorded a net gain of 30/40 runs when compared to South Africa. Roy in particular was immaculate. Given the pressure they were under I think it was a really mature performance and I feel more confident now than I did this time yesterday. The pressure will reduce from here at least in the rest of the group stage. It was the first game, we lost Bairstow early and had to contend with an early start. I know it will ramp up again if we reach the semis but it was encouraging. I agree with that completely. I think it's a massive game for England's confidence. We know we can win games now where the batting doesn't fire completely and we need the bowlers to deliver. Losing Bairstow early you could feel the 'oh god, here we go again' vibes in the crowd. So I think that Roy-Root partnership as critical. Ultimately we won that game with the ball and in the field and that has to be very satisfying. Archer really did look like the final piece of the puzzle in that game. I'm with you - I feel a lot more confident in our tournament chances having seen England win a game like that than if we'd just come out and flattened them with our hitting again.
Having said that there was a brief moment when looked like they might have us worried but De Kock gave it away pretty badly. If they'd have kept it going for another 4-5 Overs then I think we might have gotten a bit nervy - but I suppose there are moments and periods like that in most ODI games and you have to battle through them which we did well.
I note that Windies also bowled first when winning the toss this morning. I guess we might see a lot of this with the 10.30 starts.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 10:11:05 GMT
Yesterday was pleasing for England, we can't always look to score 400 so to see players dig in and get those singles were great. A few failures but some decent starts by a few lads as well. Plenty to work on but a cracking start. Jeffrey looks some boy.
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Post by warehamgas on May 31, 2019 11:22:10 GMT
Agree with what’s been said. Yesterday I thought most of the players did what they normally do, score at a good rate and with most of the top order getting runs. Two points where it could go wrong, after the first wicket and when Roy and Root went in quick succession England reacted well and recovered. Buttler is at his most dangerous in the last 10 overs so when he was bowled it appeared that we wouldn’t get a very big score. But then the rest of the batsmen were sensible, realising the pitch, and just batted to get a good score. Joe Root will be very important to England, he needs to have time at the crease, play sensibly and be the glue to stick all the power hitters together.
Archer was very good, he’s got that extra yard of pace which hurries the batsmen into slightly mis-timed shots. His experience in the BB and IPL will make him very valuable in pressured situations.
Watching the last half hour of WI v P this morning, they did similar to England lots of fast, short pitched bowling and hurry the players. England will need to combat that type of bowling and I’m sure they will.
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Post by irishrover on May 31, 2019 11:40:06 GMT
Agree with what’s been said. Yesterday I thought most of the players did what they normally do, score at a good rate and with most of the top order getting runs. Two points where it could go wrong, after the first wicket and when Roy and Root went in quick succession England reacted well and recovered. Buttler is at his most dangerous in the last 10 overs so when he was bowled it appeared that we wouldn’t get a very big score. But then the rest of the batsmen were sensible, realising the pitch, and just batted to get a good score. Joe Root will be very important to England, he needs to have time at the crease, play sensibly and be the glue to stick all the power hitters together. Archer was very good, he’s got that extra yard of pace which hurries the batsmen into slightly mis-timed shots. His experience in the BB and IPL will make him very valuable in pressured situations. Watching the last half hour of WI v P this morning, they did similar to England lots of fast, short pitched bowling and hurry the players. England will need to combat that type of bowling and I’m sure they will. Yes it was very interesting what the West Indies did this morning. I mean Pakistan did bat appallingly but Windies bowled extremely well and it will be interesting to see if that bowling approach works against other teams. I was impressed with Oshane Thomas when I went to Bristol on Tuesday and he looked flat out nasty at times in this game. Probably won't work on all the pitches or against all the batting lineups but I think Windies have given notice that they are contenders with this performance. |
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Post by jackthegas on Jun 3, 2019 15:21:15 GMT
Well today is in complete contrast to Thursday's opener! I haven't seen much of today's game but I have followed on the radio and online and it sounds like our fielding was really poor. From the little I saw, I thought we bowled too short and we've been unable to bat with our normal fluency so far.
If we can put a partnership together then a freak innings from one of our middle order may get us over the line, but I thought the first game would settle everyone down a bit, but unfortunately it looks like the opposite might be true. Let's hope that the below par performance (for the first 70 overs at least) are just one of those things rather than a sign of underlying nerves.
I do wonder whether England have missed a trick with their preparation. Why haven't all of their 'day' ODIs in the UK started at 10.30am for the last 12 months or so? The pitches curated under the guidance of the ICC seem to have a bit more in them for the bowlers too. Fair enough to have good batting tracks 4 years ago when we were trying to play with more freedom, but I wonder whether they could have produced a more diverse range of tracks post the Champions Trophy in 2017? I think everyone knew there was a good chance that pitches might end up being drier and a bit two paced.
Still, whatever happens today it's important not to get carried away. It's a long group phase and Pakistan are too good a side to lose all their games. Likewise, I am not sure England are good enough to win 11 games on the spin (plus the handful they won on the spin pre-tournament).
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Post by irishrover on Jun 3, 2019 22:57:47 GMT
Well today is in complete contrast to Thursday's opener! I haven't seen much of today's game but I have followed on the radio and online and it sounds like our fielding was really poor. From the little I saw, I thought we bowled too short and we've been unable to bat with our normal fluency so far. If we can put a partnership together then a freak innings from one of our middle order may get us over the line, but I thought the first game would settle everyone down a bit, but unfortunately it looks like the opposite might be true. Let's hope that the below par performance (for the first 70 overs at least) are just one of those things rather than a sign of underlying nerves. I do wonder whether England have missed a trick with their preparation. Why haven't all of their 'day' ODIs in the UK started at 10.30am for the last 12 months or so? The pitches curated under the guidance of the ICC seem to have a bit more in them for the bowlers too. Fair enough to have good batting tracks 4 years ago when we were trying to play with more freedom, but I wonder whether they could have produced a more diverse range of tracks post the Champions Trophy in 2017? I think everyone knew there was a good chance that pitches might end up being drier and a bit two paced. Still, whatever happens today it's important not to get carried away. It's a long group phase and Pakistan are too good a side to lose all their games. Likewise, I am not sure England are good enough to win 11 games on the spin (plus the handful they won on the spin pre-tournament). Yeah I think that's a fair reflection of the game I saw.
We did field badly. We also didn't bowl particularly apart from Moeen and Wood at the end. I feel like if anything we maybe relaxed too much after the South Africa win. There was a slight lack of intensity about us particularly early on and Pakistan were obviously bang up for proving everyone wrong after Friday's debacle. It is possible we got carried away watching the highlights of that Friday game thinking we could bounce out the Pakistan batsmen. In fairness they played really good smart cricket throughout. Hafees in particular was World Class with ball and bat. Root and Buttler still almost had us over the line but not quite, which was fair because Pakistan outplayed us on the day. Fielding was surprisingly bad but a lot of that was Jason Roy who just had a complete disaster - 2 drops and missed run out chance. Woakes, for example, fielded magnificently with 2 superb catches and tied a record for most outfield catches in a World Cup game I think.
It's definitely not panic stations but it does make things a bit harder. Assuming we should beat Afghanistan and Sri Lanka and that SA are already looking in deep trouble if they (likely although not guaranteed of course) lose to India on Wednesday then we're probably going to need to win at least 3 against Australia, India, New Zealand, Windies and Bangladesh which we should definitely back ourselves to do but winning today would have made that path look a lot easier. We haven't quite hit our straps in either games with the bat - at least not to the very highest level we've been showing over the last year. It's definitely a good result for the tournament as a whole. Gets Pakistan going and makes the battle for those top 4 slots look very competitive.
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Post by jackthegas on Jun 4, 2019 8:28:37 GMT
Well today is in complete contrast to Thursday's opener! I haven't seen much of today's game but I have followed on the radio and online and it sounds like our fielding was really poor. From the little I saw, I thought we bowled too short and we've been unable to bat with our normal fluency so far. If we can put a partnership together then a freak innings from one of our middle order may get us over the line, but I thought the first game would settle everyone down a bit, but unfortunately it looks like the opposite might be true. Let's hope that the below par performance (for the first 70 overs at least) are just one of those things rather than a sign of underlying nerves. I do wonder whether England have missed a trick with their preparation. Why haven't all of their 'day' ODIs in the UK started at 10.30am for the last 12 months or so? The pitches curated under the guidance of the ICC seem to have a bit more in them for the bowlers too. Fair enough to have good batting tracks 4 years ago when we were trying to play with more freedom, but I wonder whether they could have produced a more diverse range of tracks post the Champions Trophy in 2017? I think everyone knew there was a good chance that pitches might end up being drier and a bit two paced. Still, whatever happens today it's important not to get carried away. It's a long group phase and Pakistan are too good a side to lose all their games. Likewise, I am not sure England are good enough to win 11 games on the spin (plus the handful they won on the spin pre-tournament). Yeah I think that's a fair reflection of the game I saw.
We did field badly. We also didn't bowl particularly apart from Moeen and Wood at the end. I feel like if anything we maybe relaxed too much after the South Africa win. There was a slight lack of intensity about us particularly early on and Pakistan were obviously bang up for proving everyone wrong after Friday's debacle. It is possible we got carried away watching the highlights of that Friday game thinking we could bounce out the Pakistan batsmen. In fairness they played really good smart cricket throughout. Hafees in particular was World Class with ball and bat. Root and Buttler still almost had us over the line but not quite, which was fair because Pakistan outplayed us on the day. Fielding was surprisingly bad but a lot of that was Jason Roy who just had a complete disaster - 2 drops and missed run out chance. Woakes, for example, fielded magnificently with 2 superb catches and tied a record for most outfield catches in a World Cup game I think.
It's definitely not panic stations but it does make things a bit harder. Assuming we should beat Afghanistan and Sri Lanka and that SA are already looking in deep trouble if they (likely although not guaranteed of course) lose to India on Wednesday then we're probably going to need to win at least 3 against Australia, India, New Zealand, Windies and Bangladesh which we should definitely back ourselves to do but winning today would have made that path look a lot easier. We haven't quite hit our straps in either games with the bat - at least not to the very highest level we've been showing over the last year. It's definitely a good result for the tournament as a whole. Gets Pakistan going and makes the battle for those top 4 slots look very competitive.
A lack of intensity is easier to fix than the players feeling the weight of pressure. It was interesting yesterday listening to the commentators saying that England would feel confident chasing 100 in the last 10 overs. I am not sure that is the blueprint anymore. The extra fielder outside the fielding circle in the last 10 means that chasing 10 an over is very tough especially if Buttler, Morgan, Roy and Bairstow are all out. Root is at his best when he is scoring at just over a run a ball and Stokes has struggled to find 5th gear of late. Moeen is capable but looks hopeless with the bat at the moment and the lower order are capable of getting England over the line when the rate is 7 or 8. Usually, England get ahead of the rate early when they chase. England were back on track at the 35 over mark but just when it looked like Buttler was finding 5th gear, Pakistan managed to gain a bit of control after the last drinks break and then Root got out. England got 35 between overs 35-40, they probably needed 50. As it was they needed more than 90 off the last 10 and that meant that we really needed Buttler to stay until the end. Pakistan bowled really well at the death. I like Woakes but he doesn't look fully fit to me. I'd like to see Tom Curran come into the side next time out. I just think he's the kind of bloke that has the temperament to get you over the line with bat or ball. If South Africa beat India on Wednesday then it really will be wide open... |
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Post by irishrover on Jun 4, 2019 10:54:57 GMT
There will be a temptation to bring Curran in because our seam bowling attack can look a bit one paced at times. At last he gives the opposition something different to counter.
I agree with you on the 10 an Over thing. It has become a kind of article of faith that 10 an over (in fact on Sky they were saying anything up to 12 an Over) in the last 10 is still a favourable situation for a chasing side. I think this was belied by the fact that as soon as the rate crept up to 10 Sky's 'projected chance of winning' percentage thingy for England went down down from 40-30%. Surely there must be some stats on this but I do think it's one of those things that's become an iron rule which may not be true. Also clearly it's ground dependent which might have explained the confidence that England could do that at somewhere like Trent Bridge. I agree with you though - for all the pyrotechnics of Buttler it seems to me that England's real batting success has been built on getting off to flyers and then keeping the hammer down in the middle Overs rather than launching assauts that close the gap at the end. When they have launched devasting final assualt its been from a position where they've already pummelled sides for the rest of the innings - not where they've lost a few wickets and had to rebuild. Again though, I could be wrong there must stats on this.
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Post by jackthegas on Jun 4, 2019 12:32:43 GMT
It's just a bit out dated and the commentators don't seem to have caught up yet. At the last World Cup you had 4 outside the fielding circle in the last 10 overs and so 100 runs or more were the norm. The change to allowing 5 outside the fielding circle has changed that though. The old adage about doubling the score after 30 overs is nonsense now as well but pundits keep harping on about it. Double the score after 26/27 doesn't quite have the same ring to it though! If Buttler had batted until the end we'd have won but once the rate climbed up to 10 and over it was obvious that the game hinged on his wicket.
No stats from me, but your assessment is one that I agree with. If a side is 325/3 after 40 overs then the opposition are likely to feel utterly dejected and a score of 425+ is likely. Likewise, if you're 270/2 chasing 320 then the game is gone and without scoreboard pressure sides can play more freely. It's true in club cricket too. Once the game has gone away from you, things get out of hand very quickly. England were on the brink of taking the game away from Pakistan whilst Root and Buttler were together but wickets pulled it back.
One of the things England do well is to keep their heads when a monumental score looks likely. I guess that's in part because they genuinely believe they can chase down any score.
It's why 50 over cricket is a really interesting form. There is enough time for sides to have a wobble, re-consolidate and salvage something. The game ebbs and flows in a way that T20 cricket rarely does.
The next game is at Cardiff isn't it? Given the short boundary straight down the ground and the opposition they might leave one of the spinners out.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 4, 2019 22:09:14 GMT
Although the number of runs required today with SL v Afgh was much lower than the score England needed v Pakistan the pattern was similar. If you are chasing runs in the last half of the team then it becomes much harder. Both England and Afghanistan are meant to bat very deep yet when their best batsmen were gone the lower order were unable to finish off. It’s why I think Joe Root is perhaps even more important than Buttler or Morgan. He can stay there, adapt his batting style more than others and had he stayed then we would have won. Your points about Sky commentators being wrong is so true. Listening to them they keep on perpetuating the idea that 350 isn’t the winning score it used to be and that teams now need to get to 390/400 to be sure if winning and even then there’s no guarantee. Well so far that score has been a winning one and in the SA v Bang and Pak v Eng matches the two “underdogs” batted first and set 350 odd and to have won the matches the favourites would need to score the record innings in a chase in WC history to win and both failed. Yes teams are getting better with the bat and England have transformed themselves since the last WC. But 350 or thereabouts is still a very good score and in the WC pressure is greater and bowl well and any team will make it a difficult target to get. I’m sure that record will get beaten in this WC but not often I will suggest.
In the Pak v England match I just felt that there was a slight air of complacency after what they had done and what Pakistan had done in their first matches. The talk of Pakistan being unable to deal with Archer bowling short was clearly untrue and it went from bad to worse. Still, better for it to happen in an early group match rather than a semi final later on. And despite losing no team will want to face England in conditions that help England or even any conditions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 10:47:21 GMT
Actually quite pleased England lost that game, I managed to watch most of it and our fielding was poor. I think their was a slightly poor attitude of complacency going into the game after Pakistan were dicked by the Windies. It's good that England will get a shot across the bows warning them that all teams can hurt them and they need to be on it.
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Post by irishrover on Jun 5, 2019 12:17:25 GMT
Although the number of runs required today with SL v Afgh was much lower than the score England needed v Pakistan the pattern was similar. If you are chasing runs in the last half of the team then it becomes much harder. Both England and Afghanistan are meant to bat very deep yet when their best batsmen were gone the lower order were unable to finish off. It’s why I think Joe Root is perhaps even more important than Buttler or Morgan. He can stay there, adapt his batting style more than others and had he stayed then we would have won. Your points about Sky commentators being wrong is so true. Listening to them they keep on perpetuating the idea that 350 isn’t the winning score it used to be and that teams now need to get to 390/400 to be sure if winning and even then there’s no guarantee. Well so far that score has been a winning one and in the SA v Bang and Pak v Eng matches the two “underdogs” batted first and set 350 odd and to have won the matches the favourites would need to score the record innings in a chase in WC history to win and both failed. Yes teams are getting better with the bat and England have transformed themselves since the last WC. But 350 or thereabouts is still a very good score and in the WC pressure is greater and bowl well and any team will make it a difficult target to get. I’m sure that record will get beaten in this WC but not often I will suggest. In the Pak v England match I just felt that there was a slight air of complacency after what they had done and what Pakistan had done in their first matches. The talk of Pakistan being unable to deal with Archer bowling short was clearly untrue and it went from bad to worse. Still, better for it to happen in an early group match rather than a semi final later on. And despite losing no team will want to face England in conditions that help England or even any conditions. Yes - that was my reading of it as well. We got our tactics and attitude wrong - we should have been expecting the Pakistan who were very competitive against us in the ODI series (even though they didn't win) rather than the one who looked all at sea v Windies. Actually, that is a point that hasn't been raised. Pakistan batsmen knew what to expect from our bowling attack because they've been playing it for a month.
There's a lot of talk about how the game has been 'transformed' by T20 etc. I'm not so convinced about that. The parameters of what can be achieved have certainly shifted although perhaps not by as much as pundits have claimed and the pressure of the World Cup is looking like it is lowering scores a bit, which would make sense. It's just not the same as playing a bi-lateral series. Jack's point about the extra man out is also very important. But underneath it all I think some pundits have gotten a bit carried away. The basic psychology is still the same no matter how big the scores. In a run chase if you have set batsmen at the crease then the pressure is all on the bowling side and the game can get away from them very quickly - if new batsmen are at the crease though then that pressure reverses onto the batting side just as quickly. That has always been the case in all cricket and it doesn't matter how many poweful hitters you have down the order and how much damage they can potentially do - that psychology is not going to change.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 6, 2019 22:34:13 GMT
At 48-4 Australia were beaten yet they get to 288 and scrape through. I hate to say it but they are getting stronger and they will feel very strong after this victory. I stopped watching at about 90-5 or something like that and have only got in so I’m not sure how badly WI played from there on. Perhaps they didn’t play badly but Coulter Nile must have played very well to get 92. Looking at the table it’s very close and after tomorrow Pakistan or SL will join NZ and Aus at the top of the table. How many would have thought that a few days ago?
This competition is building up to be a very exciting one. Sometimes we get bored with WC matches and just hope the competition will soon be over, I don’t think that will happen this time, I think it will get better and better.
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Post by irishrover on Jun 7, 2019 11:23:34 GMT
At 48-4 Australia were beaten yet they get to 288 and scrape through. I hate to say it but they are getting stronger and they will feel very strong after this victory. I stopped watching at about 90-5 or something like that and have only got in so I’m not sure how badly WI played from there on. Perhaps they didn’t play badly but Coulter Nile must have played very well to get 92. Looking at the table it’s very close and after tomorrow Pakistan or SL will join NZ and Aus at the top of the table. How many would have thought that a few days ago? This competition is building up to be a very exciting one. Sometimes we get bored with WC matches and just hope the competition will soon be over, I don’t think that will happen this time, I think it will get better and better. It was a terrific game - one of those classic pivot one way then the other matches that Jack mentioned above. The Aussie recovery was a bit of both. Smith and Coulter-Nile batted very well. It was a good example of 'recalibration' (as I think Morgan calls it). Ie. Resetting expectations of what a good score looks like and then pacing your innings for that. It also exposed the limits of the Windies a bit. If they'd had a decent spin attack the Aussies wouldn't have gotten close to that score. Windies are probably the most entertaining side in this tournament but they also have very obvious flaws. Having said that the Cotterrall catch was the moment of the tournament so far - just stunning. Windies run chase was also interesting. There were a couple of moments where it looked like they were getting on top but gave it away. In hindsight the run-out of Hetmeyer and Hope's tame dismissal were the key moments. For all the power that Windies have in Russell, Gayle, Holder etc, the key to their success is Hetmeyer and Hope's ability to pace the innings in the middle overs.
It's certainly been a very good start to the tournament although today looks like a wash out - I tried very hard to get tickets for the Pakistan-Sri Lanka game at Bristol and failed. Was annoyed at the time, quite relieved about that now!
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 10, 2019 15:27:21 GMT
England posted 386-6, Jason Roy with a big 100, Bangladesh also had a centurion but lost the plot and succumbed for 280 with Stokes & Archer each taking 3 wickets.
Good win for England, The West Indies up next on Friday at Southampton.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 14, 2019 16:23:00 GMT
West Indies 212 all out England 213-2 with Joe Root hitting a century not out, an easy win with Bairstow 45 & Woakes in at 3 making 40.
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