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Post by warehamgas on Sept 13, 2019 16:12:54 GMT
Gloucestershire should still get promotion. I wish I was as confident..now only 9 ahead of Durham. The `should' is now double underlined and in bold. I remember the end of 1977 and 1985!đ I know the feeling. In my case read 2016 and 2010 instead of 1977 and 1985. Good luck, I seriously hope Gloucestershire do it, would make next season very exciting. If that happened I hope the ECB would feel suitably embarrassed. Somerset and Gloucestershire in Division 1, Glamorgan in Division 2 yet Cardiff get a 100 ball franchise instead of Bristol. But I doubt if the ECB ever feel embarrassed. Fingers crossed next week. đ
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 12:46:55 GMT
Fantastic Day Three. Excellent pair of knocks by Shaw and Hammo. Good lads.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 21:59:05 GMT
So, if Glamorgan canât get 8 wickets tomorrow Glos are promoted.
Quite the capitulation by Somerset losing 7 wickets for 14 runs. A great day at the office for Shire supporters!
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 18, 2019 23:16:07 GMT
So, if Glamorgan canât get 8 wickets tomorrow Glos are promoted. Quite the capitulation by Somerset losing 7 wickets for 14 runs. A great day at the office for Shire supporters! It was a capitulation. Silly thing was we looked at 86-0 comfortable until a silly slog by Vijay. Iâm glad it made you so happy!đ Iâm glad Gloucestershire are promoted, thatâs great news. For the last few years in Division 1 Kyle Abbott has been the best fast bowler, no team in Division 2 will have faced a fast bowler like him. Iâm sure youâll look forward to it.
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Post by cornwallgas on Sept 19, 2019 6:28:16 GMT
So, if Glamorgan canât get 8 wickets tomorrow Glos are promoted. Quite the capitulation by Somerset losing 7 wickets for 14 runs. A great day at the office for Shire supporters! It was a capitulation. Silly thing was we looked at 86-0 comfortable until a silly slog by Vijay. Iâm glad it made you so happy!đ Iâm glad Gloucestershire are promoted, thatâs great news. For the last few years in Division 1 Kyle Abbott has been the best fast bowler, no team in Division 2 will have faced a fast bowler like him. Iâm sure youâll look forward to it. Shire not there yet!...I reckon Glamorgan will win today. What a way for Somerset to finally win the title though by beating Essex next week
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 19, 2019 11:39:37 GMT
It was a capitulation. Silly thing was we looked at 86-0 comfortable until a silly slog by Vijay. Iâm glad it made you so happy!đ Iâm glad Gloucestershire are promoted, thatâs great news. For the last few years in Division 1 Kyle Abbott has been the best fast bowler, no team in Division 2 will have faced a fast bowler like him. Iâm sure youâll look forward to it. Shire not there yet!...I reckon Glamorgan will win today. What a way for Somerset to finally win the title though by beating Essex next week Gloucestershire are there no worries. I wish I had your feelings re Somerset. Honestly that was the worse half hour of cricket Iâve watched with Somerset and Iâve witnessed some horrors! 1.20 after lunch 86-0 and we were comfortable. Abbott looking tired and over-bowled, I think he was just about to be changed. Vijay has a stupid swipe and caught at deep mid on. 20 minutes later 95-6 all over. Then we lost another 6 wickets for nine runs. Pathetic. i will recover from that about November I think. Weather next week not good so Essex will manage it to get a draw at least. đ
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Post by jackthegas on Sept 19, 2019 12:31:08 GMT
So, if Glamorgan canât get 8 wickets tomorrow Glos are promoted. Quite the capitulation by Somerset losing 7 wickets for 14 runs. A great day at the office for Shire supporters! It was a capitulation. Silly thing was we looked at 86-0 comfortable until a silly slog by Vijay. Iâm glad it made you so happy!đ Iâm glad Gloucestershire are promoted, thatâs great news. For the last few years in Division 1 Kyle Abbott has been the best fast bowler, no team in Division 2 will have faced a fast bowler like him. Iâm sure youâll look forward to it. Abbott is a very good bowler but there have been some good ones in division two in recent years too. Off the top of my head; Anderson, Onions, Broad, Patterson, Archer and Woakes have all played in the second division over the last 3 or 4 years. Hard to see Gloucester or Glamorgan getting maximum batting points next week but a 20 point win for Glamorgan would need Gloucester needing 5 points I think. That's 300 runs and maximum bowling points if we lose. Not a foregone conclusion. I wondered if Somerset's batting might let them down at some point. 300 in the fourth innings is always hard work. I reckon Hampshire scored 50 too many in the first innings and Somerset would have wanted 200 first time round as well. Where was Jamie Overton? I thought Somerset would have benefited from his extra pace to try and run through the tail. Tricky one next week as well. There is plenty of time for the weather forecast to improve and 3 days might be enough to force a result. What kind of pitch do they prepare? A turner and it's leach vs harmer (I think harmer is the best bowler in the championship) or a green top and then you have to watch out for porter and cook. I reckon that without siddle, Somerset's seam attack is stronger but Essex have the better batsmen. Could be a cracker.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 19, 2019 15:01:40 GMT
Jack, all the bowlers youâve mentioned have played a couple of games with the exception of Onions who is a very different bowler to Kyle Abbott. They havenât played three solid seasons of division 1 cricket as has Abbott. It would have been hit or miss if many players faced those bowlers. Off the top of my head, Anderson, Broad, Archer and Woakes have all played but a handful of games. Iâve said all along Somerset were one batsman short of a championship winning team and that has been the case for the past few years. Tres just ran out of steam and Azar Ali and now Vijay were not the answers. I think it cost Maynard his job and despite Andy Hurryâs attempts at recruitment weâve not found a successful batsmen, hence weâve turned to our own, Bartlett and Banton. I am disappointed but take some satisfaction that 7 yesterday came through our academy against only 4 of the Hampshire team. At times this season 9 or even 10 of our 11 have been our own developed players but that doesnât necessarily win you the championship. Yes you are right, Hampshire did score probably 60/70 more than they should have. But I think, talking to the people there, Abell didnât want to be batting Tuesday night and certainly didnât want to bat from 10.30-11.30 on the Wednesday morning. He set very defensive fields to keep the score down. I think he was happier chasing 260 or more and avoiding batting on Tuesday night / Wednesday early morning than facing a total of 210/220 and having to bat at those times. And he was right the pitch changed very quickly and Somerset batted easily until Vijayâs error. At lunchtime on Wednesday we were sat talking to a group of Somerset and Hampshire fans and they thought Abell had pulled off a smart tactic. We were 86-0. That changed in the 20 minutes after lunch! As to why Jamie O wasnât playing youâre right his pace would have been good. But there was a question mark over his foot I believe and we had enough good pace bowlers to do the job. I think he will play next week and Jack Brooks will come into contention as well. I think they would have prepared two pitches in readiness, one for if we were ahead and only needing a draw which would be a good batting pitch. The other which will spin if we need a results pitch. But Essex have good spin as well so Iâm not sure it will be any more advantageous to us than Essex. Yes I agree, Essex have the more reliable batting line up but our pace attack is better and our spinners could do as much damage as Harmer. Will probably watch the weather decide after all this!
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Post by jackthegas on Sept 19, 2019 15:38:43 GMT
Jack, all the bowlers youâve mentioned have played a couple of games with the exception of Onions who is a very different bowler to Kyle Abbott. They havenât played three solid seasons of division 1 cricket as has Abbott. It would have been hit or miss if many players faced those bowlers. Off the top of my head, Anderson, Broad, Archer and Woakes have all played but a handful of games. Iâve said all along Somerset were one batsman short of a championship winning team and that has been the case for the past few years. Tres just ran out of steam and Azar Ali and now Vijay were not the answers. I think it cost Maynard his job and despite Andy Hurryâs attempts at recruitment weâve not found a successful batsmen, hence weâve turned to our own, Bartlett and Banton. I am disappointed but take some satisfaction that 7 yesterday came through our academy against only 4 of the Hampshire team. At times this season 9 or even 10 of our 11 have been our own developed players but that doesnât necessarily win you the championship. Yes you are right, Hampshire did score probably 60/70 more than they should have. But I think, talking to the people there, Abell didnât want to be batting Tuesday night and certainly didnât want to bat from 10.30-11.30 on the Wednesday morning. He set very defensive fields to keep the score down. I think he was happier chasing 260 or more and avoiding batting on Tuesday night / Wednesday early morning than facing a total of 210/220 and having to bat at those times. And he was right the pitch changed very quickly and Somerset batted easily until Vijayâs error. At lunchtime on Wednesday we were sat talking to a group of Somerset and Hampshire fans and they thought Abell had pulled off a smart tactic. We were 86-0. That changed in the 20 minutes after lunch! As to why Jamie O wasnât playing youâre right his pace would have been good. But there was a question mark over his foot I believe and we had enough good pace bowlers to do the job. I think he will play next week and Jack Brooks will come into contention as well. I think they would have prepared two pitches in readiness, one for if we were ahead and only needing a draw which would be a good batting pitch. The other which will spin if we need a results pitch. But Essex have good spin as well so Iâm not sure it will be any more advantageous to us than Essex. Yes I agree, Essex have the more reliable batting line up but our pace attack is better and our spinners could do as much damage as Harmer. Will probably watch the weather decide after all this! I think Archer has played pretty consistently until his England call up this season and Broad and Anderson have played almost half the season in recent years as they aren't involved in the white ball team and half the seasons done by the middle of may. It's all semantics though as the standard of bowling is clearly more consistently better in division one.
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Post by cornwallgas on Sept 20, 2019 18:26:21 GMT
Weather forecast for Chester Le Street next week = bad...tough luck Welsh boys ....forecast for Taunton = also bad
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Post by cornwallgas on Sept 26, 2019 14:04:34 GMT
Well done the shire, bad luck (again) the somerset. Maybe next year (no hang on - we're in with the big boys now - and so runners up it must be again!)
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Sept 26, 2019 17:38:37 GMT
Cracking season that, up the Glos!
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 22, 2020 17:51:07 GMT
Taunton the venue, seemingly awkward wicket ,Glos ' at one time had somerset in a bit of a tight spot, taking 4 for 12 runs in the middle order, Bartlett gets exactly 100. and Somerset get to 237.... Glos' not settled in yet and currently 11 / 4
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 22, 2020 22:52:11 GMT
Yes. Gloucestershire had us on the ropes but one thing about Somerset is that this season one batsman seems to get runs. Today it was Bartlett, last week it was Davies and Overton. If we can get a first innings lead then we have a good chance to get another win, weather permitting. Our bowlers are knocking everyone over this season and only the weather stopped us making it 3 wins out of 3 last week so itâs best not to count our chickens. Iâm sure Gloucestershire will look to make it hard tomorrow.
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Post by jackthegas on Aug 23, 2020 18:14:59 GMT
Yes. Gloucestershire had us on the ropes but one thing about Somerset is that this season one batsman seems to get runs. Today it was Bartlett, last week it was Davies and Overton. If we can get a first innings lead then we have a good chance to get another win, weather permitting. Our bowlers are knocking everyone over this season and only the weather stopped us making it 3 wins out of 3 last week so itâs best not to count our chickens. Iâm sure Gloucestershire will look to make it hard tomorrow. Can we just pretend this fixture never happened?!
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 23, 2020 18:49:48 GMT
Yes. Gloucestershire had us on the ropes but one thing about Somerset is that this season one batsman seems to get runs. Today it was Bartlett, last week it was Davies and Overton. If we can get a first innings lead then we have a good chance to get another win, weather permitting. Our bowlers are knocking everyone over this season and only the weather stopped us making it 3 wins out of 3 last week so itâs best not to count our chickens. Iâm sure Gloucestershire will look to make it hard tomorrow. Can we just pretend this fixture never happened?! weather permitting after Monday.... then yes you may !!! at 14/3 it's looking glum for glos'
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 23, 2020 20:26:51 GMT
Yes. Gloucestershire had us on the ropes but one thing about Somerset is that this season one batsman seems to get runs. Today it was Bartlett, last week it was Davies and Overton. If we can get a first innings lead then we have a good chance to get another win, weather permitting. Our bowlers are knocking everyone over this season and only the weather stopped us making it 3 wins out of 3 last week so itâs best not to count our chickens. Iâm sure Gloucestershire will look to make it hard tomorrow. Can we just pretend this fixture never happened?! Instead of the test match today, I watched Somerset v Gloucestershire on You Tube with the Radio Somerset and Radio Bristol commentators. Itâs easy to get via the Somerset CCC website. It is much improved this year with cameras covering most of the ground instead of just the square which it was last season. To be fair to Gloucestershire first thing this morning when they were all out for 76 there werenât many bad shots, they didnât do anything wrong apart from Ryan Higgins. The rest of them were victims of very good bowling.when Somerset batted the bowling was tidy but not threatening and once Abell got to his century and Lammonby his first ever half century they just threw the bat at everything. It was clear they wanted half an hour at Gloucestershire. After what happened to us at Edgbaston last week when we were beating Warwickshire more than we are this match. The weather isnât the best, for Somerset tomorrow, but with two days to go we should have enough time to get 7 wickets. Fingers crossed. (Mine obviously, not most of you, that I understand!)
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Post by irishrover on Aug 24, 2020 13:15:35 GMT
Can we just pretend this fixture never happened?! Instead of the test match today, I watched Somerset v Gloucestershire on You Tube with the Radio Somerset and Radio Bristol commentators. Itâs easy to get via the Somerset CCC website. It is much improved this year with cameras covering most of the ground instead of just the square which it was last season. To be fair to Gloucestershire first thing this morning when they were all out for 76 there werenât many bad shots, they didnât do anything wrong apart from Ryan Higgins. The rest of them were victims of very good bowling.when Somerset batted the bowling was tidy but not threatening and once Abell got to his century and Lammonby his first ever half century they just threw the bat at everything. It was clear they wanted half an hour at Gloucestershire. After what happened to us at Edgbaston last week when we were beating Warwickshire more than we are this match. The weather isnât the best, for Somerset tomorrow, but with two days to go we should have enough time to get 7 wickets. Fingers crossed. (Mine obviously, not most of you, that I understand!) That Somerset bowling lineup is very strong when you compare to the issues many of the top counties have had getting out their top sides. This could be the year Wareham!
Glos blew it last week really by failing to press home the advantage against Glamorgan. Knocked them out of the running because it's so tough to into that top 2. Somerset v Worcester should be a good game with plenty on the line the way things are going.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 24, 2020 14:16:15 GMT
Yes, youâre correct irish, it is a very strong quick bowling line up. And Gregory, afte his England release has only played one match. Better than most Iâd suggest. Itâs why JOverton has gone to go to Surrey. We will miss him and he has the potential of all our fast bowlers to be the best, truly quick. However COverton has signed for another 3 years. After everyone complaining that Taunton was âfiddledâ for our spinners we now see they wonât bowl a single over there this year. Actually Leach will probably not bowl an over anywhere! How ridiculous. No one will show me that the way England manage their players is anything other than stupid. It was obvious Leach wouldnât play for England, send him back to Somerset for some meaningful cricket at least.
The weather looks like it will stop us winning again. And as to being our year, it wonât count as a County Championship even if we were to get to Lords and win. And getting there is far from straightforward. Mind you I do like this means whereby all teams have a chance to do win the competition. However, in this 4th round of matches and the 5th round there will be some meaningless matches taking place. Usually in the 2 division set up most matches have something riding on them.
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Post by jackthegas on Aug 24, 2020 14:53:23 GMT
Yes, youâre correct irish, it is a very strong quick bowling line up. And Gregory, afte his England release has only played one match. Better than most Iâd suggest. Itâs why JOverton has gone to go to Surrey. We will miss him and he has the potential of all our fast bowlers to be the best, truly quick. However COverton has signed for another 3 years. After everyone complaining that Taunton was âfiddledâ for our spinners we now see they wonât bowl a single over there this year. Actually Leach will probably not bowl an over anywhere! How ridiculous. No one will show me that the way England manage their players is anything other than stupid. It was obvious Leach wouldnât play for England, send him back to Somerset for some meaningful cricket at least. The weather looks like it will stop us winning again. And as to being our year, it wonât count as a County Championship even if we were to get to Lords and win. And getting there is far from straightforward. Mind you I do like this means whereby all teams have a chance to do win the competition. However, in this 4th round of matches and the 5th round there will be some meaningless matches taking place. Usually in the 2 division set up most matches have something riding on them. I absolutely agree with you on Leach. It basically got to the point where they couldn't pick him as he hadn't played for the best part of a year. I know we have to have covid substitutes but couldn't they have swapped Leach for Virdi after the West Indies series? Or even, given the unlikely event that we'd need a sub, we could have placed Gareth Batty on standby. He isn't playing for Surrey, but he could have been a player coach for the last 3 tests. I know Somerset have had bad luck with the weather, but, had Worcester not been so comically cautious against Glamorgan, where they set 360 from 50 overs, having batted very slowly on the last day, Worcester would have had a cracking chance of reaching the final. I think the last game is at New Road isn't it? Lots of runs scored there this year. I am surprised Moeen Ali didn't play a couple of games for Worcester given that most of the white ball players were released to play for their counties.
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