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Stuart Taylor
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Post by LPGas on Dec 13, 2018 15:20:10 GMT
Now that DC has gone, I can share a conversation he had with me during a development game at Yate. He thought that Wael was "deluded", the AlQs wanted out and that he did not want for the club to go backwards. It was inevitable that if there was no takeover (He pointed to due diligence) at the time, that he would go. He does not wish to wear the stain of relegation.Dark days. I believe that things will get toxic now and we will enter a Blackpool-esque phase where we all unite against detested owners. Unite in terms of sentiment. Get in an unbalanced squad, add some journeymen and top with two of the worst strikers we have ever had, and he doesn't want relegation on his CV? Lets forget the love in he has left us with too many players who are not good enough at this level
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warehamgas
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 13, 2018 15:45:51 GMT
Of all the candidates being touted, Hurst is the only one that shouldn't cause too many spelling difficulties for our fans. For that reason, it'll probably be Cotterill, Cottrell or Cocktail. Perhaps but spelling Hirst could still pose a problem. But according to Shrews fans he wouldn’t be here long enough anyway!!😉 UTG!
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DC Gone
Dec 13, 2018 15:47:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 15:47:48 GMT
Hopefully it's April 1st in the minds of the owners and they'll tell us later this is a bad joke. However, if not, does anyone fancy paying Keith Hill a call and telling how great our fair city is and how well Rovers treat great managers?
Ah well, it'll be someone else then.
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Angas
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Post by Angas on Dec 13, 2018 16:07:41 GMT
Now that DC has gone, I can share a conversation he had with me during a development game at Yate. He thought that Wael was "deluded", the AlQs wanted out and that he did not want for the club to go backwards. It was inevitable that if there was no takeover (He pointed to due diligence) at the time, that he would go. He does not wish to wear the stain of relegation.Dark days. I believe that things will get toxic now and we will enter a Blackpool-esque phase where we all unite against detested owners. Unite in terms of sentiment. Get in an unbalanced squad, add some journeymen and top with two of the worst strikers we have ever had, and he doesn't want relegation on his CV? Lets forget the love in he has left us with too many players who are not good enough at this level Seems to me DC did best when he picked the players to bring in himself rather than being advised by a.n. other. Maybe wherever he goes next he won't have people telling him he needs an adviser.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 16:26:31 GMT
Get in an unbalanced squad, add some journeymen and top with two of the worst strikers we have ever had, and he doesn't want relegation on his CV? Lets forget the love in he has left us with too many players who are not good enough at this level Seems to me DC did best when he picked the players to bring in himself rather than being advised by a.n. other. Maybe wherever he goes next he won't have people telling him he needs an adviser. I think you are right but would add that league one was a step too far for his knowledge of players and contacts within the game. He realised that he needed help bringing in players but sadly he was let down by the players he brought in and whoever made the final decision on those players which I presume was DC himself.
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 13, 2018 16:37:50 GMT
Seems to me DC did best when he picked the players to bring in himself rather than being advised by a.n. other. Maybe wherever he goes next he won't have people telling him he needs an adviser. I think you are right but would add that league one was a step too far for his knowledge of players and contacts within the game. He realised that he needed help bringing in players but sadly he was let down by the players he brought in and whoever made the final decision on those players which I presume was DC himself. Just wondering, do you think that L1 players, who generally earn a decent wage, benefit from different management to lower levels (which can be part-time) phil?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 16:56:56 GMT
I think you are right but would add that league one was a step too far for his knowledge of players and contacts within the game. He realised that he needed help bringing in players but sadly he was let down by the players he brought in and whoever made the final decision on those players which I presume was DC himself. Just wondering, do you think that L1 players, who generally earn a decent wage, benefit from different management to lower levels (which can be part-time) phil? Players respect managers for what they have achieved and how they treat their players. As Rovers have climbed back from non league to our natural level of the third division some of that respect seems to have been lost particularly from the newer players who have a arrived and not performed. I spoke to a long term player recently who told me that there was a division in the dressing room because of the crap training facilities, a large variance in wages and the lack of future plans for the club. Managing at a higher level has been difficult for DC but he will have learnt a hell of a lot from the last couple of seasons and I see no reason what he couldn’t succeed in League 1 or higher. I know that a lot of people are upset at losing DC but IMO it was the right time for both DC and the club.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 13, 2018 17:14:09 GMT
Just wondering, do you think that L1 players, who generally earn a decent wage, benefit from different management to lower levels (which can be part-time) phil? Players respect managers for what they have achieved and how they treat their players. As Rovers have climbed back from non league to our natural level of the third division some of that respect seems to have been lost particularly from the newer players who have a arrived and not performed. I spoke to a long term player recently who told me that there was a division in the dressing room because of the crap training facilities, a large variance in wages and the lack of future plans for the club. Managing at a higher level has been difficult for DC but he will have learnt a hell of a lot from the last couple of seasons and I see no reason what he couldn’t succeed in League 1 or higher. I know that a lot of people are upset at losing DC but IMO it was the right time for both DC and the club. I think you are spot on. I really feel upset about this but it was obvious that Darrell was very low and maybe even ill over it and his interviews were very hard to listen to. His persistence with a player who was just not going to play himself in was a big mistake but kind of understandable given the money paid. I have to say it’s amazing that yet again he has shown massive grace in leaving rather than looking for a payout although none of us know the detail. I just can’t see any other manager doing that much better given that they will face the same constraints but someone with contacts, such as Cotterill, could at least get loans in. Personally I have no problem if he is chosen. As I understand it, two names are front runners but not permanent in the first instance and would get a large bonus for keeping us up. Out of the 2 i would prefer Cotterill as the other could lose out a lot if he came back and we get relegated. Sad and a total 180 degree feel to how we felt when we were led to believe we had, at last, got some wealthy owners, who gave us many broken promises. Feel quite sick about it right now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 17:14:36 GMT
BG - I know that you love to bait as a fulltime role on this Forum. He has gone now. He made his views very clear about the owners to the Press. The club did not even publish what he said. Deluded, charlatans, fantasists - these are words that are appropriate to describing DS. DC exposed them and well done to him for speaking out. My point was that this has been brewing since August 2017. You are the fantasist Vaughan, in one breath you are going to raise millions and want to work with the club, in the next breath you write this. I rest the case that; A. You were never a fit person to head up any serious fund raising initiative. B. Hamer, daft devil that he is, saw you for what you are and wanted no part of anything to do with you.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 13, 2018 17:18:43 GMT
BG - I know that you love to bait as a fulltime role on this Forum. He has gone now. He made his views very clear about the owners to the Press. The club did not even publish what he said. Deluded, charlatans, fantasists - these are words that are appropriate to describing DS. DC exposed them and well done to him for speaking out. My point was that this has been brewing since August 2017. You are the fantasist Vaughan, in one breath you are going to raise millions and want to work with the club, in the next breath you write this. I rest the case that; A. You were never a fit person to head up any serious fund raising initiative. B. Hamer, daft devil that he is, saw you for what you are and wanted no part of anything to do with you. Come on @bambergasgroin. Put this to bed mate, it’s not achieving anything and making you seem quite bitter yet you are one of my favourite posters normally. Let it go mate. Please
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 13, 2018 17:19:04 GMT
His persistence with a player who was just not going to play himself in was a big mistake but kind of understandable given the money paid. I'm not sure that the alternatives were any more attractive thought kP interesting reading phil's comments about the dressing room - which resonates with one or two other whispers around. Tho DC always made such a point about them being 'an honest group of lads'
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 13, 2018 17:20:59 GMT
His persistence with a player who was just not going to play himself in was a big mistake but kind of understandable given the money paid. I'm not sure that the alternatives were any more attractive thought kP interesting reading phil's comments about the dressing room - which resonates with one or two other whispers around. Tho DC always made such a point about them being 'an honest group of lads' I’d have liked to have seen Jakubiak given that place personally but loans have always suffered from lack of gametime under DC
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vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Dec 13, 2018 17:21:41 GMT
Thanks Ian P.
Now go and have a lie-down and please make sure your bile levels return to normal.
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LincsBlue
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Post by LincsBlue on Dec 13, 2018 17:32:32 GMT
I find it odd that no pronouncement of who will be in Charge on Saturday. Presumably Stewy unless the rumours of Cotteril are true and he is ready to come straight in If Cotteril becomes our new mesiah, I'll await the second coming before setting foot in to another ground where Rovers will be playing
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LincsBlue
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Post by LincsBlue on Dec 13, 2018 17:38:54 GMT
half a season left and a Wembley challenge for a new manager and a great fanbase whats not to like The owners Poor stadium No proper training ground strikers that don't/can't/won't score no money left for transfers
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Post by thecuregalore94 on Dec 13, 2018 18:09:46 GMT
Don't want to argue with anyone, don't want to point any fingers or speculate what went on. Just want to say thank you to Darrell from everything he gave us, and wish him all the best.
#WengerIn.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 13, 2018 18:13:49 GMT
Perhaps on my own here, but I think the correct decision was taken today. And also conducted fairly, professionally and in the correct tone.
It's best for DC. It's best for BRFC.
I alluded to this in Heavy Heart thread.
This sort of day was always going to be emotional. A sad day. So many highs has been down to his hand exclusively, and DC feels like family. Still.
But that doesn't exonerate DC from his responsibility to the club and atm, relegation is a no no. Yes, we've had two promotions, but maybe that level of expertise is where DC talents lay? Perhaps he never truly got to grips with this league and he has taken us as far as he can atm? There's no shame in that.
As much as I love the manager, players and staff, it's the club I'm loyal to the most and it's well-being. I'm so glad the club I love and have my first priority to can hopefully get themselves out this torrid place by giving the best opportunity with a new way to look at things.
Finally, thanks to everything that DC has done. We restored more than pride and with DC reputation intact, I truly wish him well in the future. I'll probably even look out for him if he goes anywhere but the unmentionable.
The king is dead Long live the next GasHead king..
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Jomo
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Post by Jomo on Dec 13, 2018 18:35:32 GMT
Darrell wasn't your usual conveyor belt type manager. In him we had a bloke who wanted to see the club progress but his ambitions weren't matched by the owners. How many lower league managers would have turned down Leeds United? Yes you can argue that Leeds is a basketcase but most managers would have jumped at the chance to raise their profile and if nothing else know that there was a payoff looming after less than a season in charge. Not our Darrell though and thats what sets him apart from practically every other manager out there. He wasn't motivated by money, he was motivated by a genuine love of our club and a desire to see us progress on and off the pitch. So what now? In all likelihood we'll get someone who is out for themself and will be happy to jump at the first opportunity to get a bigger club or conversely grab a payoff if things don't go so well. And you can guarantee that the new manager won't question the lack of infrastructure at the club as he won't really care. We were so lucky that Darrell landed on our doorstep and the club should have recognised this and treated him far better. In the fickle world of football, the Darrell Clarke's of this world are a rareity. Thank you for everything Darrell. The board may not have loved you but the fans sure did What a cracking post, thanks crater.
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Post by tauntongas on Dec 13, 2018 18:43:03 GMT
Sad day for the club.
One of our most important and successful managers, ghosted out of the club in a half hearted statement and a picture of text in a tweet from WAQ.
Marcus resigned and got even less.
I no longer have any sympathy for the Al Qadi's. They had as close to a golden goose as you can get in football and they've f*cked it up beyond belief.
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nit3owl64
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Post by nit3owl64 on Dec 13, 2018 19:18:28 GMT
half a season left and a Wembley challenge for a new manager and a great fanbase whats not to like The owners Poor stadium No proper training ground strikers that don't/can't/won't score no money left for transfers Sounds a bit like what have the romans ever done for us lol
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