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Post by Gregory Stevens on Oct 6, 2018 7:33:20 GMT
Always somewhat rated him.
He was injured a lot of lasts season.
Gets undue criticism. He’s a Bristol lad also and I’ve never known a more committed, hard working player. Up there with sinc, but possibly a bit more skill full.
Proving it again this year.
Well done Ollie. Make them eat those words.
On another note, I’ve often though SS is below L1 and just here mainly for his attitude.
Look at the difference when he plays.
I am eating my words too.
3 points today please
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 6, 2018 7:42:56 GMT
OC deserves great credit this season. He has played further forward than in previous years and appears to have lost weight and looks a tad quicker which to be fair wasn't difficult. His passing and speed of execution have been suspect in the past. This has clearly been worked on. He is showing more small skills like a drag back or cruyff turn previously unseen from him. It would seem the arrival of Upson has allowed him to express himself a bit more and he has really stepped up so far this season. There are opportunities for players in this team and he is definitely taking his, whereas I feel Lockyer and some of the forward players are too comfortable, feel undroppable which is unhealthy and we are not seeing their best. Agree re SS continuous improvement personified. Always somewhat rated him. He was injured a lot of lasts season. Gets undue criticism. He’s a Bristol lad also and I’ve never known a more committed, hard working player. Up there with sinc, but possibly a bit more skill full. Proving it again this year. Well done Ollie. Make them eat those words. On another note, I’ve often though SS is below L1 and just here mainly for his attitude. Look at the difference when he plays. I am eating my words too. 3 points today please
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Post by Rex on Oct 6, 2018 8:12:07 GMT
In his first season I thought he was awful, I was definitely in the 'get rid ' camp. Just goes to show what us mere mortals know about the game
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 6, 2018 9:10:28 GMT
I remember a game v Bath in the cup where he walked off round the pitch in his suit looking really cheesed off not injured just not in the squad. Turned it round. Like Harrison did In his first season I thought he was awful, I was definitely in the 'get rid ' camp. Just goes to show what us mere mortals know about the game
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Post by Rex on Oct 6, 2018 9:49:49 GMT
I remember a game v Bath in the cup where he walked off round the pitch in his suit looking really cheesed off not injured just not in the squad. Turned it round. Like Harrison didIn his first season I thought he was awful, I was definitely in the 'get rid ' camp. Just goes to show what us mere mortals know about the game I always rated Harrison from day one, even when many others clearly didn't. I thought Clarke was s**te, I am very happy to have been proved wrong.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 6, 2018 10:44:48 GMT
I remember a game v Bath in the cup where he walked off round the pitch in his suit looking really cheesed off not injured just not in the squad. Turned it round. Like Harrison didI always rated Harrison from day one, even when many others clearly didn't. I thought Clarke was s***e, I am very happy to have been proved wrong. Harrison was on loan at hartlepool lest we forget. Matured very well last season especially
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 6, 2018 11:16:49 GMT
'Make 'em eat their words'. What's that supposed to mean? Football's about opinions here and now because players develop through different phases and are never the done deal until around 26-27, about the time we all start maturing mentally and physically. Football coaches are worse than anyone for throwing potential talents on the scrapheap early on because they don't have a crystal ball. it's a common enough occurrence. Some kids look good when they're young, but fade away as they get older. Others improve late on. It's not about making people eat their words, but sticking with it and believing in yourself like in any walk of life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 11:33:48 GMT
Opinions eh, like the wind. Next time he gets sent off or he has one of those games where he can't find one of our players even with 5 yard passes the daggers will be out again
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Oct 6, 2018 11:58:29 GMT
'Make 'em eat their words'. What's that supposed to mean? Football's about opinions here and now because players develop through different phases and are never the done deal until around 26-27, about the time we all start maturing mentally and physically. Football coaches are worse than anyone for throwing potential talents on the scrapheap early on because they don't have a crystal ball. it's a common enough occurrence. Some kids look good when they're young, but fade away as they get older. Others improve late on. It's not about making people eat their words, but sticking with it and believing in yourself like in any walk of life. What I really like is players who are workers getting on and doing well. OC and SS both are those players. I really enjoy maligned players coming good. I like redemption. It’s why I back players like Nichols long after I should. It’s one of those great sub-plots in football. Like the ball dropping for Brown (mr loyalty at that time) and not for Taylor for our promotion clinching goal. I love the story of rising against adversity to win. I wasn’t really having a go at those who doubted him, I doubted sinds. Aren’t we all delighted when ANY player does well for the club. I’m actually really happy to SS to prove me wrong. I’m very happy for him. He shoved my opinion up my arse and it feels great. Hang on, that could have been phrased better. Oo-er matron.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 6, 2018 22:05:52 GMT
Bit like today lol Opinions eh, like the wind. Next time he gets sent off or he has one of those games where he can't find one of our players even with 5 yard passes the daggers will be out again
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Post by basel on Oct 7, 2018 7:21:30 GMT
Years ago,having seen Ollie play a few cameo roles (when not out injured,he had a hard time of it),I thought him a good player.He has it all ( more or less) for his middle middle position.I think he has been playing very well for longer than just this season. I got it right with Ollie.Hav'nt got them all right though.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 8, 2018 10:56:29 GMT
'Make 'em eat their words'. What's that supposed to mean? Football's about opinions here and now because players develop through different phases and are never the done deal until around 26-27, about the time we all start maturing mentally and physically. Football coaches are worse than anyone for throwing potential talents on the scrapheap early on because they don't have a crystal ball. it's a common enough occurrence. Some kids look good when they're young, but fade away as they get older. Others improve late on. It's not about making people eat their words, but sticking with it and believing in yourself like in any walk of life. What I really like is players who are workers getting on and doing well. OC and SS both are those players. I really enjoy maligned players coming good. I like redemption. It’s why I back players like Nichols long after I should. It’s one of those great sub-plots in football. Like the ball dropping for Brown (mr loyalty at that time) and not for Taylor for our promotion clinching goal. I love the story of rising against adversity to win. I wasn’t really having a go at those who doubted him, I doubted sinds. Aren’t we all delighted when ANY player does well for the club. I’m actually really happy to SS to prove me wrong. I’m very happy for him. He shoved my opinion up my arse and it feels great. Hang on, that could have been phrased better. Oo-er matron. Being born here but very much brought up a Pole, I think it’s British thing. We love the underdog and to then knock those who do make it. Build em up to knock em down really does seem a thing here, that’s how I see it
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 8, 2018 11:32:36 GMT
What do you think players feel having risen through the ranks over so many years to then make the first team, fulfill their ambition to then be criticised by fans when things to go to plan. We build them up then we knock them down. Ollie Clarke, Lines, Josh Low - there's been a number of local lads that have perhaps experienced the negative sides of some supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 12:19:55 GMT
What do you think players feel having risen through the ranks over so many years to then make the first team, fulfill their ambition to then be criticised by fans when things to go to plan. We build them up then we knock them down. Ollie Clarke, Lines, Josh Low - there's been a number of local lads that have perhaps experienced the negative sides of some supporters. My Grandad always used to tell me about Ray Walker, came through the ranks, captained Rovers to some of their greatest achievements. The supporters however called him "Ray Warren" because he was like a rabbit in the headlights. Ray obviously coming from light rays and Warren because that's where rabbits live. Football fans have always been pathetic, we could learn a lot from the story of Ray Walker.
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