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Post by azulyblanco on Jun 2, 2014 8:25:50 GMT
(1) Does anybody think that the singing (!) of the National Anthem by England players before a game instils a better team spirit resulting in improved performances (in a football sense!) on the pitch? (2) If yes, should each player be given a microphone to avoid them cheating by "lip synch-ing"
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Post by basel on Jun 2, 2014 9:11:25 GMT
1.Yes.
2.No.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Jun 2, 2014 21:01:15 GMT
No and no.
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GasPanic!
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Post by GasPanic! on Jun 2, 2014 22:08:15 GMT
1) No. The anthem is crap/archaic. Should be Jerusalem. 2) No.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 6:28:17 GMT
No Its not a "National Anthem" Its homage to a feudal monarchy No, its embarrassing enough as it is.
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Post by intheknow on Jun 3, 2014 7:06:57 GMT
Yes they should all sing it with gusto
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 7:57:52 GMT
Can't we have a nice anthem, went to Ireland - Italy at the weekend at the Italian anthem is brilliant. I don't believe in God and if one exists then I'd certainly not want it to save that saggy old tax dodging wench.
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Post by dagnogo on Jun 3, 2014 11:49:11 GMT
It'd be nice if they did, but I understand why they wouldn't - unless you're a God-botherer and a Monarchist it's a bit irrelevant.
You can't, however, dump GSTQ for being Christian then advocate Jerusalem.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 11:53:09 GMT
It'd be nice if they did, but I understand why they wouldn't - unless you're a God-botherer and a Monarchist it's a bit irrelevant. You can't, however, dump GSTQ for being Christian then advocate Jerusalem. It could be an Islamic anthem? And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England’s mountains green? And was the holy lamb of god On England’s pleasant pastures seen? And did the countenance divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among those dark satanic mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold! Bring me my arrows of desire! Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold! Bring me my chariots of fire! I will not cease from metal fight; Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand Till we have built Jerusalem In England’s green and pleasant land.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 12:11:47 GMT
Should have the Big Break theme tune.
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Post by brizzle on Jun 3, 2014 15:01:28 GMT
Blimey, I thought that we had been transported back in time to Take Your Pick's famous Yes/No Interlude. All that was missing was Michael Miles and that fiend with the gong. If anyone fancies a trip down Memory Lane . . . 1955? Surely not.
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Post by Rex on Jun 3, 2014 17:19:14 GMT
Can't we have a nice anthem, went to Ireland - Italy at the weekend at the Italian anthem is brilliant. I don't believe in God and if one exists then I'd certainly not want it to save that saggy old tax dodging wench. I don't believe in god, and I'm a republican , so GSTQ doesn't really do it for me. However, if we were to adopt the tune of the Italian national anthem , I'd be belting it out-it's brilliant! I always join in with it- I don't actually know any Itailian, but if you just sing 'Italia' over and over it seems to scan nicely
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 18:30:14 GMT
Can't we have a nice anthem, went to Ireland - Italy at the weekend at the Italian anthem is brilliant. I don't believe in God and if one exists then I'd certainly not want it to save that saggy old tax dodging wench. I don't believe in god, and I'm a republican , so GSTQ doesn't really do it for me. However, if we were to adopt the tune of the Italian national anthem , I'd be belting it out-it's brilliant! I always join in with it- I don't actually know any Itailian, but if you just sing 'Italia' over and over it seems to scan nicely Ha, A traitor...
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Post by irishrover on Jun 4, 2014 14:24:53 GMT
It is a terrible, turgid piece of music that was commissioned by idiots who had no musical taste or sense of history whatsoever.
England is hardly lacking in belting nationalistic anthems - pretty much all of composers that were any good got their by crowing about how great the country is.
Of course Jerusalem should be the English National Anthem - one of the few songs that everyone has a stake in. A song that talks about future and past, references North and South, town and country, written by a utopian Socialist yet co-opted as the official anthem of the Conservative Party and sung at all 3 main party conferences.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 17:28:05 GMT
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Post by stapletongas on Jun 4, 2014 21:46:49 GMT
They should sing the full version...
God save our gracious Queen Long live our noble Queen God save the Queen Send her victorious Happy and glorious Long to reign over us God save the Queen
O Lord our God arise Scatter her enemies And make them fall Confound their politics Frustrate their knavish tricks On Thee our hopes we fix God save us all
Thy choicest gifts in store On her be pleased to pour Long may she reign May she defend our laws And ever give us cause To sing with heart and voice God save the Queen
Not in this land alone But be God's mercies known From shore to shore Lord make the nations see That men should brothers be And form one family The wide world over
From every latent foe From the assassins blow God save the Queen O'er her thine arm extend For Britain's sake defend Our mother, prince, and friend God save the Queen
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Post by azulyblanco on Jun 5, 2014 8:12:42 GMT
Blimey, Stapleton - the players couldn't remember all that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 10:06:28 GMT
He didn't even include the best verse.
Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush, and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save The Queen.
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Post by brizzle on Jun 5, 2014 12:28:46 GMT
He didn't even include the best verse. Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush, and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save The Queen. When I was reading the post by stapletongas, I re-read it several time because I knew that somewhere there was a reference to ''Rebellious Scots'' in the National Anthem. So many thanks to chewbacca for finding it. Seems a bit strange to me, but given what is going on north of the border at the moment perhaps it's just as well to ''bury'' the verse for the time being . . . or even longer.
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Post by malcolmdalrymple on Jun 5, 2014 17:04:33 GMT
But it's ok for the scots to sing there dirge about sending us home again to think again.
But if your English don't you ever think of telling anyone your proud to be English that's not in the script.
I vow to thee my country or Jerusalem should be the anthem,can never understand how we use the anthem of Great Britain instead of one unique to ourselves.
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