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Post by stargas on May 5, 2016 18:10:56 GMT
Excellent interview with Gas Chairman Steve Hamer on Radio Bristol. Listen again will be available here UTG RTID
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 21:11:44 GMT
Brilliant interview.
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Post by PessimistGas on May 5, 2016 21:45:08 GMT
"Too embarrassing" to reveal how much money has been squandered pursuing a watertight case through the courts.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 22:00:56 GMT
As per not usual, I was in a position to watch local BBC news, which had yer man on. (Sorry, I haven't listened to the radio version).
In addition to the 'too embarrassing' comment re the costs of the court case, he said the deal with UWE was contingent on the sale to Sainsbury's. Firstly, whose interest was that in? Surely we hadn't built in a get-out clause as per horrified indignation when Sainbury's pulled that one; Nurse Ratchet must be outraged. Secondly, no wonder we kept flogging a dead horse when that shenanigan bit us in the bottom. Thirdly, that refocuses the need to change the deal with UWE, because we have to strip out the Heffalump Trap that we'd so cunningly built in and we'd fallen into. Fourthly, that puts in context the talk of needing to keep UWE on-side.
Damn, I thought I'd parked the horror of those people's crap machinations. Thank God they've gone. Sorry for the mess, Wael and co. And UWE. Hopefully, we can move forward in a straight-forward and deliverable way.
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Post by PessimistGas on May 5, 2016 22:13:32 GMT
As per not usual, I was in a position to watch local BBC news, which had yer man on. (Sorry, I haven't listened to the radio version). In addition to the 'too embarrassing' comment re the costs of the court case, he said the deal with UWE was contingent on the sale to Sainsbury's. Firstly, whose interest was that in? Surely we hadn't built in a get-out clause as per horrified indignation when Sainbury's pulled that one; Nurse Ratchet must be outraged. Secondly, no wonder we kept flogging a dead horse when that shenanigan bit us in the bottom. Thirdly, that refocuses the need to change the deal with UWE, because we have to strip out the Heffalump Trap that we'd so cunningly built in and we'd fallen into. Fourthly, that puts in context the talk of needing to keep UWE on-side. Damn, I thought I'd parked the horror of those people's crap machinations. Thank God they've gone. Sorry for the mess, Wael and co. And UWE. Hopefully, we can move forward in a straight-forward and deliverable way. I find it interesting how his tone has shifted as he was initially quite deferential and respectful of the old regime. On occasion recently he has appeared visibly annoyed. It's almost as if certain people hadn't been quite straight them prior to the takeover and everywhere they look they find another steaming pile of metaphorical sh*t hidden away.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 22:34:05 GMT
May we all fall to our knees and give thanks to whomsoever or whatsoever in which we each believe, for our deliverance from Higgs, Watola, et al, and for the intervention of Al Qadi et al.
Were it not for the total takeover, and total removal of each of the former regime (thanks Ernie), BRFC would be well and truly screwed. Perhaps terminally.
Thank you.
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on May 5, 2016 23:42:59 GMT
I thought it was a great interview, and I'm very thankful for the intervention of the Al Qadis too. What I'm most grateful for of all though is Darrell Clarke's team management. I still shudder at the memory of Braintree and know it hasn't always been plain sailing, but I'm so thankful that it was him who was faced with the task of shaping a team up to get us out of the conference at the first time of asking. The Al Qadis have already said that nothing less than a league club would have done, and so we'd probably have been history by now if we hadn't escaped the conference when we did.
I'm loving the new ownership and what's going on under their watch just like everyone else, but I'm fairly certain that without DC and the squad that he put together, the club would have been in no position to attract their interest. DC is going to make mistakes in the future because we all do, but I'll always think of him as the bloke that saved us.
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Post by scotsgas on May 6, 2016 0:23:59 GMT
Firstly I think Steve Hamer must have been a dream interview for Geoff Twentyman as he gave so much breaking news - particularly Sainsburys,the academy and training ground, the app for students and safe standing areas. Also the Matty Taylor situation. That should keep us all going for ages.But the thing that I really picked up on was when next year was talked about and he said there is a plan a and b for next season depending on what division we are in. Not to do so would be WRECKLESS. Like getting relegated and not understanding the consequences.
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Post by lostinspace on May 6, 2016 6:24:33 GMT
do you think GT would send a copy of that interview to Higgs and co... then ask them to explain IN DETAIL how the frokin hell we were in such a mess
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Post by Peter Parker on May 6, 2016 6:39:50 GMT
As per not usual, I was in a position to watch local BBC news, which had yer man on. (Sorry, I haven't listened to the radio version). In addition to the 'too embarrassing' comment re the costs of the court case, he said the deal with UWE was contingent on the sale to Sainsbury's. Firstly, whose interest was that in? Surely we hadn't built in a get-out clause as per horrified indignation when Sainbury's pulled that one; Nurse Ratchet must be outraged. Secondly, no wonder we kept flogging a dead horse when that shenanigan bit us in the bottom. Thirdly, that refocuses the need to change the deal with UWE, because we have to strip out the Heffalump Trap that we'd so cunningly built in and we'd fallen into. Fourthly, that puts in context the talk of needing to keep UWE on-side. Damn, I thought I'd parked the horror of those people's crap machinations. Thank God they've gone. Sorry for the mess, Wael and co. And UWE. Hopefully, we can move forward in a straight-forward and deliverable way. talking of Nurse Ratchet, I would genuinely be interested to hear what the chief apologist had to say about it all now
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Post by nerdgas on May 6, 2016 9:36:12 GMT
May we all fall to our knees and give thanks to whomsoever or whatsoever in which we each believe, for our deliverance from Higgs, Watola, et al, and for the intervention of Al Qadi et al. Were it not for the total takeover, and total removal of each of the former regime (thanks Ernie), BRFC would be well and truly screwed. Perhaps terminally. Thank you. I'd imagine that even if Higgs had manipulated his way into staying on the board as part of the sale his position on the board would have become untenable by now. Could you see either Wael or Hamer working with Higgs after everything that has come out since the takeover?
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Post by a more piratey game on May 6, 2016 10:17:05 GMT
he said the deal with UWE was contingent on the sale to Sainsbury's. I'm struggling to understand what we learned here. We all knew this - if we didn't sell to Sainsburys then we didn't have any money to build the UWE. Putting that in the contract or not doesn't seem to affect anything
what am I missing please?
the best bit for me was when Hamer Time said that everyone at the club said that they'd never known something like the current buzz and 20p said immediately 'that's what they've been telling me too'. Nice
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Post by buckrippers on May 6, 2016 10:21:26 GMT
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Post by manchestergas on May 6, 2016 10:21:44 GMT
As per not usual, I was in a position to watch local BBC news, which had yer man on. (Sorry, I haven't listened to the radio version). In addition to the 'too embarrassing' comment re the costs of the court case, he said the deal with UWE was contingent on the sale to Sainsbury's. Firstly, whose interest was that in? Surely we hadn't built in a get-out clause as per horrified indignation when Sainbury's pulled that one; Nurse Ratchet must be outraged. Secondly, no wonder we kept flogging a dead horse when that shenanigan bit us in the bottom. Thirdly, that refocuses the need to change the deal with UWE, because we have to strip out the Heffalump Trap that we'd so cunningly built in and we'd fallen into. Fourthly, that puts in context the talk of needing to keep UWE on-side. Damn, I thought I'd parked the horror of those people's crap machinations. Thank God they've gone. Sorry for the mess, Wael and co. And UWE. Hopefully, we can move forward in a straight-forward and deliverable way. talking of Nurse Ratchet, I would genuinely be interested to hear what the chief apologist had to say about it all now Been very quiet of late.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 13:24:48 GMT
Just listened to it, didn't hear him say anything about the cost of the case being embarrassing, did I miss it or has it been edited?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 13:40:53 GMT
Just listened to it, didn't hear him say anything about the cost of the case being embarrassing, did I miss it or has it been edited? It was in a TV intervene that he also gave, which was shown on the local news at about 10:30: the interviewer asked how much the court case had cost.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 13:48:57 GMT
Just listened to it, didn't hear him say anything about the cost of the case being embarrassing, did I miss it or has it been edited? It was in a TV intervene that he also gave, which was shown on the local news at about 10:30: the interviewer asked how much the court case had cost. Thanks for clearing that up. Was rather hoping that he hadn't actually said it. It's the sort of thing that I would rather the new regime didn't get involved in. Hard to imagine Wael saying it. But overall, he does give a good interview, almost as if he has a chat with Geoff and they are on good terms before the tape starts running.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 13:59:03 GMT
he said the deal with UWE was contingent on the sale to Sainsbury's. I'm struggling to understand what we learned here. We all knew this - if we didn't sell to Sainsburys then we didn't have any money to build the UWE. Putting that in the contract or not doesn't seem to affect anything
what am I missing please?
the best bit for me was when Hamer Time said that everyone at the club said that they'd never known something like the current buzz and 20p said immediately 'that's what they've been telling me too'. Nice
Not quite. We all assumed (I assume) that we had a contract with UWE, and we just had to find the money; plan A for getting it was to sell the Mem to Sainsbury's for over the odds; when it became increasingly clear that it wasn't going to happen, the assumption - and talk - was of a plan B to raise the money. What seems to have been said now is that the sale to Sainsbury's was written into the contract with UWE, so if that didn't happen the contract with them was void. Maybe UWE had good grounds for giving a toss how we raised the money, and wanted that clause in there, but it sounds to me like a get-out clause for us. Sadly, we didn't want to get out, but without selling to Sainsbury's, we didn't (and presumably currently don't) have a contract with UWE. So much for the mythical plan B. Who knows how ready UWE would have been to change contract terms with the old regime and sign up for another five years of being jerked around, if another way of finding the dosh had been found, but I expect they're far readier to re-contract with the new lot. Damn, I'm glad they came along.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 14:02:39 GMT
It was in a TV intervene that he also gave, which was shown on the local news at about 10:30: the interviewer asked how much the court case had cost. Thanks for clearing that up. Was rather hoping that he hadn't actually said it. It's the sort of thing that I would rather the new regime didn't get involved in. Hard to imagine Wael saying it. But overall, he does give a good interview, almost as if he has a chat with Geoff and they are on good terms before the tape starts running. I thought it was a good answer: no numbers; his thinking is that it was too much, without saying the words; next question.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 14:10:41 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up. Was rather hoping that he hadn't actually said it. It's the sort of thing that I would rather the new regime didn't get involved in. Hard to imagine Wael saying it. But overall, he does give a good interview, almost as if he has a chat with Geoff and they are on good terms before the tape starts running. I thought it was a good answer: no numbers; his thinking is that it was too much, without saying the words; next question. Don't often disagree with what you post, but on this we'll have to agree to disagree. No problem with him thinking it was too much, I agree, it was, far too much, from the comfort of our living rooms it was a car crash unfolding before our eyes, but to call the actions of the previous owners 'embarrassing'' simply isn't professional and I think falls short of the standards Wael has set. On reflection I suspect that Steve would agree.
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