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Post by Colyton Gas. on Apr 13, 2016 17:54:15 GMT
 Ex Gas,manager of Solihull for 5 years taken them into the National (Vanarama) Prem!!! Capacity 3000 with 280 seats.Feature on Midland's BBC News to-night. |
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Post by irishrover on Apr 13, 2016 21:15:30 GMT
That's interesting - he was managing a women's team last time I heard of him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 21:51:23 GMT
That's interesting - he was managing a women's team last time I heard of him. DoF with Birmingham City Ladies still, they play at Moors ground. |
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Post by Foran for England on Apr 14, 2016 8:33:05 GMT
But would you have him back?
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Post by irishrover on Apr 14, 2016 8:40:09 GMT
But would you have him back? To be honest I can't really remember very much about him as a player. I remember he was a right back, I think we got him from QPR and I have some memory of him having to retire due to injury either with us or just after he left us. But as a player I remember very little about him - I can't even remember whether I thought he was any good or not, that's pretty unusual for me. Must have seen him play a reasonable number of times but the mind is a complete blank. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 9:08:57 GMT
But would you have him back? To be honest I can't really remember very much about him as a player. I remember he was a right back, I think we got him from QPR and I have some memory of him having to retire due to injury either with us or just after he left us. But as a player I remember very little about him - I can't even remember whether I thought he was any good or not, that's pretty unusual for me. Must have seen him play a reasonable number of times but the mind is a complete blank. Signed from Crewe, scored against the City and Everton, left for QPR and had two very successful spells there with Ollie. Still registered as a player for Moors just in case but has only featured twice since 2012. He's done a brilliant job at Moors who've only existed since 2007 and the merger of Moor Green and Solihull Borough. |
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Post by irishrover on Apr 14, 2016 20:46:19 GMT
To be honest I can't really remember very much about him as a player. I remember he was a right back, I think we got him from QPR and I have some memory of him having to retire due to injury either with us or just after he left us. But as a player I remember very little about him - I can't even remember whether I thought he was any good or not, that's pretty unusual for me. Must have seen him play a reasonable number of times but the mind is a complete blank. Signed from Crewe, scored against the City and Everton, left for QPR and had two very successful spells there with Ollie. Still registered as a player for Moors just in case but has only featured twice since 2012. He's done a brilliant job at Moors who've only existed since 2007 and the merger of Moor Green and Solihull Borough. Ah - I have that completely the wrong way round then and I'm wrong about the injury thing too. Honestly, my mind is clearly a complete blank when it comes to Bignott - was he signed as part of Ollie's ill-fated final spending spree? I must have been watching 30 games a year at the time - why the hell can't I remember him better?! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 22:02:06 GMT
Signed from Crewe, scored against the City and Everton, left for QPR and had two very successful spells there with Ollie. Still registered as a player for Moors just in case but has only featured twice since 2012. He's done a brilliant job at Moors who've only existed since 2007 and the merger of Moor Green and Solihull Borough. Ah - I have that completely the wrong way round then and I'm wrong about the injury thing too. Honestly, my mind is clearly a complete blank when it comes to Bignott - was he signed as part of Ollie's ill-fated final spending spree? I must have been watching 30 games a year at the time - why the hell can't I remember him better?! Yeah with the likes of Foran, Jones, Evans and Richards. Christ. |
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Post by irishrover on Apr 14, 2016 22:54:45 GMT
Ah - I have that completely the wrong way round then and I'm wrong about the injury thing too. Honestly, my mind is clearly a complete blank when it comes to Bignott - was he signed as part of Ollie's ill-fated final spending spree? I must have been watching 30 games a year at the time - why the hell can't I remember him better?! Yeah with the likes of Foran, Jones, Evans and Richards. Christ. Yes - well maybe that's the problem; said times. That really was a murderers row of terrible signings - for all we are doomed to endlessly debate his legacy Ollie really did sign his own death warrant there. But possibly that's the issue, Bignott might have been lodged in there with them in my mind (and possibly in others to) which sounds like it might have been more than a touch unfair.
I'm thinking attacking fullback who was perhaps a bit of a liability on the defensive end with us? You'll probably tell me he never advanced passed the halfway line now though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 8:04:43 GMT
Yeah with the likes of Foran, Jones, Evans and Richards. Christ. Yes - well maybe that's the problem; said times. That really was a murderers row of terrible signings - for all we are doomed to endlessly debate his legacy Ollie really did sign his own death warrant there. But possibly that's the issue, Bignott might have been lodged in there with them in my mind (and possibly in others to) which sounds like it might have been more than a touch unfair.
I'm thinking attacking fullback who was perhaps a bit of a liability on the defensive end with us? You'll probably tell me he never advanced passed the halfway line now though!
He was quite, 4 goals in 44 games vouches for that. Bignot got quite a lot of stick but I actually thought he was an OK performer in an awful side. |
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Post by kwoodgas on Apr 15, 2016 17:22:36 GMT
Think we mainly played 3-5-2 that season with MB usually as a wing back but occasionally played as a FB in a more conventional back 4 and also occasionally in midfield.
I seem to remember him pretty positively but that might just be because of what was around him or because I was about 9.
I guess the fact Ollie took him up a league backs up that theory tho.
Solihull seems an interesting one; considering every bus stop around Manchester seems to have had a league team, yet reasonable sized places around Brum like Redditch,Bromsgrove, Sutton Coldfield and obviously Solihull never have.
So yeh will be interesting to see whether they're just happy to be there or will push on towards the league in the coming years; I guess a lot of their fans are Villa/Brum/WBA fans at heart that want a cheap and hassle free day out with the family and that core might erode if they go up the leagues.
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Post by kwoodgas on Apr 15, 2016 17:23:32 GMT
Yeah with the likes of Foran, Jones, Evans and Richards. Christ. Yes - well maybe that's the problem; said times. That really was a murderers row of terrible signings - for all we are doomed to endlessly debate his legacy Ollie really did sign his own death warrant there. But possibly that's the issue, Bignott might have been lodged in there with them in my mind (and possibly in others to) which sounds like it might have been more than a touch unfair.
I'm thinking attacking fullback who was perhaps a bit of a liability on the defensive end with us? You'll probably tell me he never advanced passed the halfway line now though!
Che Wilson and Martin Cameron are others to add to that list of legends. |
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Post by irishrover on Apr 16, 2016 1:40:20 GMT
Think we mainly played 3-5-2 that season with MB usually as a wing back but occasionally played as a FB in a more conventional back 4 and also occasionally in midfield. I seem to remember him pretty positively but that might just be because of what was around him or because I was about 9. I guess the fact Ollie took him up a league backs up that theory tho. Solihull seems an interesting one; considering every bus stop around Manchester seems to have had a league team, yet reasonable sized places around Brum like Redditch,Bromsgrove, Sutton Coldfield and obviously Solihull never have. So yeh will be interesting to see whether they're just happy to be there or will push on towards the league in the coming years; I guess a lot of their fans are Villa/Brum/WBA fans at heart that want a cheap and hassle free day out with the family and that core might erode if they go up the leagues. That's an interesting point - I think it has something to do with the unique sporting culture that exists in and around greater Manchester built on the strong separate identities all the small milltowns around Manchester had. They didn't see themselves as connected to Manchester if anything they saw themselves as something apart and there was a very strong sense of pride in their immediate town. Places like Droylsden, Hyde, Stalybridge etc were all like that. I played for 2 years in the Saddleworth Cricket League (just been made defunct by a merger) and it really was remarkable. Down the Saddleworth valley there must have been 6/7 teams representing tiny villages within 5/6 miles - all these teams would get crowds of 60-100 to watch their games on a Saturday and they would be able to raise enough money to pay 1 or 2 professionals to play in their sides. The local rivalries were really intense and the culture unique. But what it was based on was an era when each of these villages would have had a single employer (normally a mill) and the owners of those mills would pay for the local sports teams and give their staff time off to watch the games - it was considered a healthy way of regulating what people got up to in their spare time. There was a time when the whole league was basically professional. The best example was Friarmere - which is a cricket club in the middle of nowhere. The mill is long gone and nothing is left of the town that it served either apart from the cricket club, the chapel and tomb built in the memory of the guy who owned the cricket and the club and positioned so that in death he could continue to oversee both and 12 terraced houses on one side of the ground that the guy built for his cricket team to live in. Spooky as hell really. But that is how strong those regional sporting identities were in that part of the world. I think it's mostly died now but the large number of relatively strong non-league football clubs around greater Manchester are part of that legacy I think.
Not sure Birmingham has quite the same thing because it's industrial development came quite a bit later and belonged to a different type of culture to that - plus people could probably travel more easily by then to go watch Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc. Having said that Bromsgrove Rovers were a powerhouse non-league team and so were Nuneaton at one stage.
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Post by kwoodgas on Apr 16, 2016 9:02:20 GMT
Think we mainly played 3-5-2 that season with MB usually as a wing back but occasionally played as a FB in a more conventional back 4 and also occasionally in midfield. I seem to remember him pretty positively but that might just be because of what was around him or because I was about 9. I guess the fact Ollie took him up a league backs up that theory tho. Solihull seems an interesting one; considering every bus stop around Manchester seems to have had a league team, yet reasonable sized places around Brum like Redditch,Bromsgrove, Sutton Coldfield and obviously Solihull never have. So yeh will be interesting to see whether they're just happy to be there or will push on towards the league in the coming years; I guess a lot of their fans are Villa/Brum/WBA fans at heart that want a cheap and hassle free day out with the family and that core might erode if they go up the leagues. That's an interesting point - I think it has something to do with the unique sporting culture that exists in and around greater Manchester built on the strong separate identities all the small milltowns around Manchester had. They didn't see themselves as connected to Manchester if anything they saw themselves as something apart and there was a very strong sense of pride in their immediate town. Places like Droylsden, Hyde, Stalybridge etc were all like that. I played for 2 years in the Saddleworth Cricket League (just been made defunct by a merger) and it really was remarkable. Down the Saddleworth valley there must have been 6/7 teams representing tiny villages within 5/6 miles - all these teams would get crowds of 60-100 to watch their games on a Saturday and they would be able to raise enough money to pay 1 or 2 professionals to play in their sides. The local rivalries were really intense and the culture unique. But what it was based on was an era when each of these villages would have had a single employer (normally a mill) and the owners of those mills would pay for the local sports teams and give their staff time off to watch the games - it was considered a healthy way of regulating what people got up to in their spare time. There was a time when the whole league was basically professional. The best example was Friarmere - which is a cricket club in the middle of nowhere. The mill is long gone and nothing is left of the town that it served either apart from the cricket club, the chapel and tomb built in the memory of the guy who owned the cricket and the club and positioned so that in death he could continue to oversee both and 12 terraced houses on one side of the ground that the guy built for his cricket team to live in. Spooky as hell really. But that is how strong those regional sporting identities were in that part of the world. I think it's mostly died now but the large number of relatively strong non-league football clubs around greater Manchester are part of that legacy I think.
Not sure Birmingham has quite the same thing because it's industrial development came quite a bit later and belonged to a different type of culture to that - plus people could probably travel more easily by then to go watch Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc. Having said that Bromsgrove Rovers were a powerhouse non-league team and so were Nuneaton at one stage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 9:42:05 GMT
Also worth noting a lot of Birmingham ish based non-league clubs have been horribly run for years! How Worcester are in the position they're in is baffling, well it's not they sold their ground up for housing without actually having a new one to move into! Bromsgrove Rovers went bust and were replaced by Sporting Bromsgrove who had to start from scratch. Halesowen are just massive under achievers, the club can get gates over 800 at times. Rushall Olympic simply have no real history of being a big non-league side, the main problem is playing in Walsall. Stourbridge went down to the Midlands League in the early 2000's and haven't really recovered attendances despite some incredible cup runs. Sutton Coldfield struggle because they basically play in Villas back garden. They've recently got a 3G pitch and share with Villa Ladies and Romulus (Blissett's old club). Moors just don't have any history, they're getting there but it's two clubs still.
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Post by kwoodgas on Apr 16, 2016 11:05:30 GMT
Also worth noting a lot of Birmingham ish based non-league clubs have been horribly run for years! How Worcester are in the position they're in is baffling, well it's not they sold their ground up for housing without actually having a new one to move into! Bromsgrove Rovers went bust and were replaced by Sporting Bromsgrove who had to start from scratch. Halesowen are just massive under achievers, the club can get gates over 800 at times. Rushall Olympic simply have no real history of being a big non-league side, the main problem is playing in Walsall. Stourbridge went down to the Midlands League in the early 2000's and haven't really recovered attendances despite some incredible cup runs. Sutton Coldfield struggle because they basically play in Villas back garden. They've recently got a 3G pitch and share with Villa Ladies and Romulus (Blissett's old club). Moors just don't have any history, they're getting there but it's two clubs still. Think Redditch had a reasonable team as well (Conference North) a few years ago that has gone down the shutter. I think it mightve been the same people involved there that are responsible for Kidderminster's demise. |
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Ex Gas,manager of Solihull for 5 years taken them into the National (Vanarama) Prem!!!
