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Post by salopian on Feb 29, 2016 19:33:39 GMT
Hi Boys, Shrews fan here. Keeping an eye out for ex-players, and just wondering how our old boy Lawrence is getting on for you guys?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 29, 2016 20:42:58 GMT
I've tried over and over to rack my brains and work out why we signed and subsequently play him. Was he signed with a view someone else was about to leave?
In any event, I've seen the majority of games he's featured, and apart from one shot just over against Morecambe, I'm struggling to remember any positive contribution.
Apparently on Saturday, he took most of the corners and delivery wasn't too bad, but that's about it!
A very poor addition imo..
Someone hilariously said before preferred Lenny Lawrence! Sums it up..
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 29, 2016 20:46:07 GMT
Hi Boys, Shrews fan here. Keeping an eye out for ex-players, and just wondering how our old boy Lawrence is getting on for you guys? We're still waiting for him to 'arrive'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 20:52:49 GMT
There was a time when Rovers fans would wait longer than five games before judging players.
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 29, 2016 21:06:11 GMT
There was a time when Rovers fans would wait longer than five games before judging players. Back in those days there was no automatic relegation from the fourth tier of the league
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Post by Richard on Feb 29, 2016 21:11:04 GMT
Unfortunately he has arrived at a time where we have had a run of tough games / a struggle for form so far too many of our fans are putting the blame solely on Lawrence.
He's only played one home game too so many fans wouldn't even have seen him play a decent number of times either.
Weird.
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Post by nortongashead on Feb 29, 2016 21:16:01 GMT
He needs match fitness, has looked very sluggish. His set pieces have been average. Is currently carrying the can for the rest of the team who's performances have also lacked quality of late.
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 29, 2016 21:29:50 GMT
He was supposedly a proven player at this level after helping Shrewsbury to promotion. Unfortunately he doesn't appear to have brought that proven form with him, he's had a detrimental effect in the way we play, he doesn't appear fit (that of course could be something to do with the fact he hadn't been playing for Shrewsbury for a while) and there appears to be a drop in the level of intensity we play. I'm not expecting him to be able to run around like a spring chicken at his age but I do expect him to put some effort in and to show some quality in his play above the levels we already had. Unfortunately after seeing him play in all 5 games, he has displayed none of that and doesn't in my view deserve to be given a starting place but of course I could be wrong and others see qualities in him that I am clearly blind to.
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Post by salopian on Feb 29, 2016 21:32:27 GMT
Wow, it's as if I'm reading our forum 3 months ago! Bar 1 or 2 games he was very sluggish for us this season, but many thought the drop down a division would do him good as he bossed many games for us last season in L2 and we didn't look the same without him. There's definitely a footballer in there, but I guess his legs are disappearing fast.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 21:37:22 GMT
I've also seen all five games. He hasn't found his feet yet and doesn't look very fit, but to blame him for the slump in everybody else's form seems a bit harsh to me.
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 29, 2016 21:46:00 GMT
Wow, it's as if I'm reading our forum 3 months ago! Bar 1 or 2 games he was very sluggish for us this season, but many thought the drop down a division would do him good as he bossed many games for us last season in L2 and we didn't look the same without him. There's definitely a footballer in there, but I guess his legs are disappearing fast. I think the most disappointing thing about his performance is the lack of quality. I can almost accept sluggish providing there's some quality, I mean when Rickie Lambert played for us he would hardly scoot about the pitch but he showed his class by his quality, we've not seen any of that and it has definitely affected the way we play. Is 5 games too soon to make an informed judgement of him, probably not but he had better start performing soon or else he is going to start getting some well aimed advice before too long !
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 29, 2016 21:57:01 GMT
I've also seen all five games. He hasn't found his feet yet and doesn't look very fit, but to blame him for the slump in everybody else's form seems a bit harsh to me. Which begs the question with the exception of Barnet why he is starting every game and still clearly looks unfit, doesn't cover back in defence, doesn't track back in defence or make attacking runs from midfield. The game just passes him by most of the time and causes disruption in our playing style. It is interesting to note Salopian commenting on his sluggishness with them, perhaps his 'legs have gone' ? Absolutely agree with you about not blaming him for others loss of form though.
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 29, 2016 22:22:55 GMT
Give the guy a longer chance the fixtures he has played have been the more difficult games and just one home appearance. I have faith in DC's judgement and hope Lawrence's experience will help us through the rest of the season.
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Post by Igitur on Feb 29, 2016 22:23:49 GMT
I do not think Rovers' fans are blaming Lawrence solely for the 'blip' but I am disappointed a little as DC said he would only take players better than those he has and would add something to the team. LL most certainly is not and does not, and other players are missing out and tactics/formations are suffering. Yet DC stubbornly, as usual, sadly, perseveres with players or selections or formations or tactics.
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Post by Angas on Feb 29, 2016 22:53:31 GMT
Wow, it's as if I'm reading our forum 3 months ago! Bar 1 or 2 games he was very sluggish for us this season, but many thought the drop down a division would do him good as he bossed many games for us last season in L2 and we didn't look the same without him. There's definitely a footballer in there, but I guess his legs are disappearing fast. I think the most disappointing thing about his performance is the lack of quality. I can almost accept sluggish providing there's some quality, I mean when Rickie Lambert played for us he would hardly scoot about the pitch but he showed his class by his quality, we've not seen any of that and it has definitely affected the way we play. Is 5 games too soon to make an informed judgement of him, probably not but he had better start performing soon or else he is going to start getting some well aimed advice before too long ! Rickie was just a fat midfielder for a while though
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Post by The Concept on Mar 1, 2016 0:12:00 GMT
I've only seen him play the one game, and that was when everyone struggled in tricky, windy, conditions, so I can't really form an opinion.
Even if I'd watched all five matches he has featured in I'm not sure that's enough time for him to fully gel.
He may gel, he might not gel; what I do know is that when it was announced he had signed all the comments were positive and it seemed everyone thought he was a good acquisition.
... it's just as well previous managers didn't listen to sections of the crowd during Jason Robert's first 9 games, or the start of Rickie Lambert's Rovers career.
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Post by gashead1979 on Mar 1, 2016 14:00:46 GMT
Given we are hardly scoring for fun, why does our New Zealand international not get a look-in???
I do like DC but some of his signings and decisions are baffling. Imo there is nothing new that Lawrence offers that wasn't already here
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 1, 2016 14:16:51 GMT
I've only seen him play the one game, and that was when everyone struggled in tricky, windy, conditions, so I can't really form an opinion. Even if I'd watched all five matches he has featured in I'm not sure that's enough time for him to fully gel. He may gel, he might not gel; what I do know is that when it was announced he had signed all the comments were positive and it seemed everyone thought he was a good acquisition. ... it's just as well previous managers didn't listen to sections of the crowd during Jason Robert's first 9 games, or the start of Rickie Lambert's Rovers career. I don't think Lawrence should be judged on his Rovers career after 5 games, but he hasn't done much so far to warrant a start tonight.
So far he has looked like a worse version of Chris Lines
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Mar 1, 2016 14:19:57 GMT
I hope DC gives Lawrence another start tonight, DC doesn't usually give in to the baying mob on the terraces. I'm hoping for something different tonight, maybe completely revamp the front 2, go with Bodin & Fallon, and Leadbitter & Montano on the wings.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 1, 2016 15:18:02 GMT
I hope DC gives Lawrence another start tonight, DC doesn't usually give in to the baying mob on the terraces. I'm hoping for something different tonight, maybe completely revamp the front 2, go with Bodin & Fallon, and Leadbitter & Montano on the wings. wouldn’t write him off, but not sure what he’s done to warrant a start tonight. We have a hit a bit of a slump can we afford to stick Lawrence in being a slower more ponderous version of Linesy in the hope of getting him fit. Generally our midfield (and the teams relative success) has been about work rate and I believe Lines has been left out on occasion because of that. If we continue the 3 at the back I would rather see 2 of Mansell/Sinclair/Clarke in there with Lines. In fact I would argue that if that is how we continue to play Gosling as an attacking player in the 3 would currently be a better option than Lawrence. I have nothing against LL, but I don’t know what he adds to the team. I for one don’t want to see a ludicrous 3 in midfield of Lines, Lawrence and one bloke doing all the work again
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