ashperry83
Rickie Lambert
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Post by ashperry83 on Sept 13, 2015 7:28:49 GMT
All I see and hear is moaning about our strikers. How many chances were created for them yesterday? How many v Oxford? Literally none. We have nice tidy midfielders in Lines, Mansell, Clarke and Sinclair. However they are toothless going forward. We lack creativity and drive from deep. If a midfielder runs at a defence, it creates space. When do we do this?
To me its incredibly lazy to suggest the problem is all down to Taylor, Easter and Harrison. I would be annoyed if they were missing chances, but they arent. Our shape and lack of a Disley type player is causing us real problems. Not just this season too. Last year we struck gold in Monkhouse. His goals and assists were massive for us. Monky aside, our midfield was again solid without contributing too many goals and a real lack of creativity. DC knew this hence the signings of players Like Martin, Dawson and to a lesser extent Lines to help this.
To me this problem needs resolving first.
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Post by fanatical on Sept 13, 2015 7:55:47 GMT
All I see and hear is moaning about our strikers. How many chances were created for them yesterday? How many v Oxford? Literally none. We have nice tidy midfielders in Lines, Mansell, Clarke and Sinclair. However they are toothless going forward. We lack creativity and drive from deep. If a midfielder runs at a defence, it creates space. When do we do this? To me its incredibly lazy to suggest the problem is all down to Taylor, Easter and Harrison. I would be annoyed if they were missing chances, but they arent. Our shape and lack of a Disley type player is causing us real problems. Not just this season too. Last year we struck gold in Monkhouse. His goals and assists were massive for us. Monky aside, our midfield was again solid without contributing too many goals and a real lack of creativity. DC knew this hence the signings of players Like Martin, Dawson and to a lesser extent Lines to help this. To me this problem needs resolving first. Agree we are missing Monkhouse contribution and Mansell has lost his mojo and passes sideways or back. Lines and Sinclair try but the movement up front is poor - Taylor has developed the habit of marking the defender. Easter is lacking courage (as per oneon one with goalkeeper today - he pulled out) Clarke has improved this term but everybody throughout the team had a lazy day yesterday |
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Post by LPGas on Sept 13, 2015 8:02:21 GMT
For all the running Sinclair does he does not provide any incisive passes, Lines would but gets caught up in the defence. Mansell was the worst of the midfield yesterday and I don't think he and Clarke can play together
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 8:18:31 GMT
Hope its that simple op
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2015 8:24:24 GMT
Surely Bodin's late introduction suggests if our strikers actually put some effort in then they will create chances? Taylor's performance, or lack of one, must be one of the worse performances by a Rovers striker for years. Although DC's decision to have no width yesterday was just simply bizarre.
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 13, 2015 8:48:01 GMT
Agree with pretty much all that is being said here. Thought Bodin showed some drive and desire in his brief appearance. Got to be worth a start next week surely? Or how else can DC reasonably judge him?
My only comfort in all this (and not sure I should take too much of that) is that we were this disorganised this time last year (in much the same way Orient started with a bang last year but are still here in this League)and we got sorted in the end. Guess its not where you start but where you finish.
Of course the obvious flaw in that argument is that we are now in a totally different League to that with the standard of clubs we are playing..............any crumbs gratefully accepted.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 13, 2015 9:05:38 GMT
Credit to Bodin he was lively again after coming on yesterday, played a gem of a ball into Easter whose Movement for the pass was sublime.
Not sure on missing Monkhouse in this division, don't get me wrong he was fantastic for us in the conference but in a division where even Accrington look quite nippy I can't help but think it would be too much for him.
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Post by fanatical on Sept 13, 2015 9:18:47 GMT
Credit to Bodin he was lively again after coming on yesterday, played a gem of a ball into Easter whose Movement for the pass was sublime. Not sure on missing Monkhouse in this division, don't get me wrong he was fantastic for us in the conference but in a division where even Accrington look quite nippy I can't help but think it would be too much for him. Bodin has looked good and eager both games recently and should be given a chance - especially as Easter is certainly not fit and is lacking the courage at 50/50 balls. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 13, 2015 9:52:50 GMT
It's all down to DC and his defensive formation. He uses all of his players to help the defence and leaves the front two completely isolated.The opponents know exactly what we are going to do and now even Accrington Stanley out think us. When we havent got the ball we are a very lazy team. The defence move out slowly ,the midfield havent got the pace to get out and our only option is to hoof. Get the players to sprint out and work as a team. DC expects all the midfield and the attackers to help the defence but the Strikers get no support whatsoever.
We play like we are playing against Barcelona every week.
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ashperry83
Rickie Lambert
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Post by ashperry83 on Sept 13, 2015 9:53:50 GMT
Credit to Bodin he was lively again after coming on yesterday, played a gem of a ball into Easter whose Movement for the pass was sublime. Not sure on missing Monkhouse in this division, don't get me wrong he was fantastic for us in the conference but in a division where even Accrington look quite nippy I can't help but think it would be too much for him. When I say missing Monkhouse, I'm really talking about his level of contribution. Maybe a year older at a higher level would be too much. I'm more talking about the 8 league goals and the assists he provided. We have not replaced those or him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 10:22:51 GMT
as somebody else mentioned,,i couldnt understand us not having anyone wide on the right? it meant the only outlet was brown on the left,although in the 2nd half sinclair played wide right which improved our options.
i think lines is playing much too deep in areas where he cant hurt the opposition,i would like to see him at the front of the centre 3 if we stay with 3-5-2.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 13, 2015 10:28:07 GMT
Yes
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 10:36:04 GMT
as somebody else mentioned,,i couldnt understand us not having anyone wide on the right? it meant the only outlet was brown on the left,although in the 2nd half sinclair played wide right which improved our options. i think lines is playing much too deep in areas where he cant hurt the opposition,i would like to see him at the front of the centre 3 if we stay with 3-5-2. Spot on. With Lines what you see is what you get. He'll never cover every blade of grass, he'll never go into crunching tackles, what he will do though is create a yard of space for himself and read movement ahead of him. If you have a player like that you need 2 others to do the 'dirty work' in midfield. When Clarke works this out we may start to control games. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2015 11:15:29 GMT
as somebody else mentioned,,i couldnt understand us not having anyone wide on the right? it meant the only outlet was brown on the left,although in the 2nd half sinclair played wide right which improved our options. i think lines is playing much too deep in areas where he cant hurt the opposition,i would like to see him at the front of the centre 3 if we stay with 3-5-2. Spot on. With Lines what you see is what you get. He'll never cover every blade of grass, he'll never go into crunching tackles, what he will do though is create a yard of space for himself and read movement ahead of him. If you have a player like that you need 2 others to do the 'dirty work' in midfield. When Clarke works this out we may start to control games. Surely Clarke's & Mansell's job is to do the dirty work for Lines? Problem then is we have no outlets on the wings as everyone is stuck in the middle! Why DC didn't just start with Sinclair at RWB is a real mystery, why tinkering when there was no need? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 11:47:10 GMT
Spot on. With Lines what you see is what you get. He'll never cover every blade of grass, he'll never go into crunching tackles, what he will do though is create a yard of space for himself and read movement ahead of him. If you have a player like that you need 2 others to do the 'dirty work' in midfield. When Clarke works this out we may start to control games. Surely Clarke's & Mansell's job is to do the dirty work for Lines? Problem then is we have no outlets on the wings as everyone is stuck in the middle! Why DC didn't just start with Sinclair at RWB is a real mystery, why tinkering when there was no need? Mansell and Ollie Clarke getting stuck in and physically controlling midfield is about as likely as Chandra Bahadur Dangi starting in goal for us next week. |
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Post by LPGas on Sept 16, 2015 10:24:03 GMT
Credit to Bodin he was lively again after coming on yesterday, played a gem of a ball into Easter whose Movement for the pass was sublime. Not sure on missing Monkhouse in this division, don't get me wrong he was fantastic for us in the conference but in a division where even Accrington look quite nippy I can't help but think it would be too much for him. Bodin has looked good and eager both games recently and should be given a chance - especially as Easter is certainly not fit and is lacking the courage at 50/50 balls. Bodin has come on when the opposition has been knackered |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 16, 2015 16:44:15 GMT
Bodin has looked good and eager both games recently and should be given a chance - especially as Easter is certainly not fit and is lacking the courage at 50/50 balls. Bodin has come on when the opposition has been knackered Knackered?? Not too sure on that one chap. Accy were solid right until the last whistle, even counter attacking and somehow ballsing up another 2 great chances to make it 3-0. Teams losing their legs after an hour is a thing of our conference past. The sides in this division will be matching us to the last whistle in the fitness department. |
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