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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 29, 2015 18:09:07 GMT
I took the tube and arrived early in the multi-cultural suburb that is Leyton, so went off for a double halal burger and chips before the start. It set me back £4, with a can of coke, so all the noise about London prices seemed to be rubbish. Until I went to buy a ticket, which at £24 represents a third more than the most we were paying last year. So everything’s not brilliant, being back in the football league. But then we went in, and the Gas started arriving. By kick-off time there were over a thousand of us, making a frightful din, playing against a proper club, and it was brilliant to be back where we belong.
The O’s came out with a little old man at right back and a member of Musical Youth in midfield, but apart from that no one I noticed or knew anything about.
Rovers came out with the same team as last week, but with Lyttle stepping up from our Youth to fill the boots of injured man-in-form Danny Ledbitter. Apparently Lyttle is 17, but he doesn’t look it. The bench was heavy with M’s – Mildy, the two new Mons, Mans and Matty – plus Gosling and Bodin, which seemed to me to provide a range of game-changing options. Both teams started brightly enough, and the noise was pretty deafening at the back where I was standing. Orient played a pressing defence, whereas we sat back, kept our shape, and let them pass it. It wasn’t obvious that they were going to get through us, and we had two attacks in the first 15 minutes which had lovely end-to-end football. So classic home vs. away tactics, and it looked pretty tight and evenly balanced.
Easter got cornered between two of their players near the half-way line, and used his quick and silky feet to get through them. One of them stuck out a leg in frustration, and duly went in the book. He doesn’t always do a lot, but what he does do can look good at times.
Then a long ball into the box saw Lyttle beat their bloke to the header, after which, to the bemusement of everyone, the ref blew for a penalty. As far as I saw no Orient player appealed, nor did their crowd, and Rovers were too bemused to object. All very odd, but their bloke poked it up the middle while Chapman dived to his right, and we were one-nil down.
Rovers’ fans were pretty incensed, and one was fairly promptly chucked out by the Plod who provided a useful verbal outlet for fans’ anger over the next few minutes.
We almost struck back straight away, but then they dominated for a bit, always seeming to have more options and men in the middle than us, before we finally got our foot on the ball and a chance to dominate for about five minutes before half-time. We’d stuck with the Christmas tree formation, and we got a chance to see what they were trying to do, but we couldn’t seem to make it last.
When they were doing well it was often down our right. Their midfielders were finding space between Lines and Lyttle, and working the triangles well. It seemed to me that Lines was often marking space, leaving Lyttle to pick up two players, but the bloke next to me wondered if Lyttle hadn’t tuned into the team’s pattern of play yet.
In injury time Lyttle had the ball on the right and tried to beat his man. He half-did, but it cannoned off the O behind, and we lost the ball. In truth, he’d taken the wrong option. Orient turned it goal-ward and worked a good opportunity which they just squeaked past Chapman. A horrid way to end the half.
Second half Lyttle, who apart from the 2 mistakes and the holes with Lines, had looked very competent, was replaced by Monakana, and Ollie Clarke, who had also often found himself marking space (or maybe just ‘keeping the shape’) was replaced by Montano. The changes seemed to make sense, and showed attacking intent I thought.
Things were pretty even, with a bit more space opening up and Orient less able to press as the players tired. Play ebbed and flowed between the sides, with Orient making more chances and Chapman making some good stops.
Taylor came on for Easter who has been looking a bit fitter than before but still unable to really make his mark throughout games. It seemed to me to be a good call – a player who could help us shape the space that was now becoming available.
Taylor’s first few touches were pretty disastrous, though, and one misplaced cross-field ball set up a great Orient attack which almost resulted in a goal. If it had been Lyttle’s pass it definitely would have been a goal, given his luck on the day.
The still-deafening Gas started to get quite crotchety with the O’s at the end of the ground, and a few bits of ‘banta’ ended with a Rovers rendition of Blowing Bubbles. That probably has some irony for some of the critics of the Board on here.
Lines relinquished some of the set-piece deliveries towards the end, and they seemed to improve as a result. We had one free-kick which flashed within inches of the goal after the faintest of headers, but that was probably about as close to scoring as we came. Well, apart from one goalmouth scramble where one of our blokes knee’d it over the bar as a reflex when it was pinballing around between players.
Sincs got a bit more influential as the space developed to exploit his running, and Monakana looked very capable down the right flank, but we too often hoofed to short players up front (in one case it was Sincs, the smallest player on the field, who we hoofed to in hope).
We didn’t lack spirit, but we didn’t have many options beyond the hopeful running of Harrison upfront. When we did create options, it was when we moved forward as a team, but playing a ‘dropping back’ defence made that fairly rare.
I thought Lyttle was unfortunate, rather than had a ‘mare, but the rest of the team neither shone nor failed. Orient rode their luck, and probably edged it since they created more chances than us, but a draw or a one-goal defeat was probably a reflection of the game.
I walked back to the tube in some early-autumn drizzle. I had a headache from the noise of all that singing, but it felt like while we had been hoping for a big-match roller-coaster, we ended up with a Bank Holiday disrupted train journey.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 29, 2015 19:15:42 GMT
Excellent write and thrilling read, AMPG..
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 29, 2015 21:18:38 GMT
I agree with you about Tyler Lyttle, I felt quite sorry for him, he was almost being left out to dry and not used sufficiently enough. He was quite often being left to mark two men, whose fault that was I'm not sure, it was either Chris Lines or James Clarke but hopefully Tyler will benefit from his experience
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Post by aghast on Aug 29, 2015 21:21:26 GMT
You got quoted on the Orient forum for this, with zero abuse. Nice piece.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 29, 2015 21:23:51 GMT
As expected, ridiculously soft pen that the ref couldn't wait to give.
S**thouse decision.
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 29, 2015 21:57:26 GMT
To be honest I thought it was a penalty, if it had been the other way round many of our supporters would have been screaming for it. Tyler has to realise that putting both hands on the back of the forward stood in front of you in the penalty area who is backing into you gives him the opportunity to 'professionally' fall over. Hopefully Tyler learns a hard lesson from it. I like the look of Tyler, he looks a good player, controls and plays the ball well, I hope we see him play again.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 29, 2015 22:07:41 GMT
To be honest I thought it was a penalty, if it had been the other way round many of our supporters would have been screaming for it. Tyler has to realise that putting both hands on the back of the forward stood in front of you in the penalty area who is backing into you gives him the opportunity to 'professionally' fall over. Hopefully Tyler learns a hard lesson from it. I like the look of Tyler, he looks a good player, controls and plays the ball well, I hope we see him play again. I saw Tyler in pre season alot and thought he handled himself very well. A wing back position seemed to suit his play, which now with hindsight seems a master stroke. Wasn't there so cant comment and totally accept Bridgeman take on it. Darryl was kind in after match interview. Fair play with the hands thong if true.....but what about the other misdemeanors? I mean, come on?! On tv, the did question it and it looks innocuous to say the least. Harsh on Tyler but he's brill and will come through this.....s**te decision, ref, sorry. That's just how I see it backing the boy Tyler.
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Post by LJG on Aug 29, 2015 22:38:51 GMT
As expected, ridiculously soft pen that the ref couldn't wait to give. S**thouse decision. Two handed shove in the back in the box ... hardly a huge surprise it was given.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 29, 2015 23:11:38 GMT
As expected, ridiculously soft pen that the ref couldn't wait to give. S**thouse decision. Two handed shove in the back in the box ... hardly a huge surprise it was given. Shove? The lads arms weren't outstretched in any shape or form. Attacker feels the presence and hits the deck. Crap.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 29, 2015 23:52:42 GMT
Obvious penalty and stupid to say the least and about the only decision the referee managed to get right all afternoon. Thought with that referee that we were back in the Conference. To me Little looked totally lost and made poor decisions on both goals. I am sure he will be dismayed tonight but in all honesty it was clear before the penalty that he was struggling in the role and should have been replaced early on.Although that may have hit his confidence it would have saved him the embarrassment of causing both goals. Unfortunately when we play a good side they force us back because DCs tactics do not work as your front two are left out to dry trying to chase three or four players around. Until we attackas a team and defend as a team by moving up as a unit then we will fail against the better sides.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 29, 2015 23:53:14 GMT
Obvious penalty and stupid to say the least and about the only decision the referee managed to get right all afternoon. Thought with that referee that we were back in the Conference. To me Little looked totally lost and made poor decisions on both goals. I am sure he will be dismayed tonight but in all honesty it was clear before the penalty that he was struggling in the role and should have been replaced early on.Although that may have hit his confidence it would have saved him the embarrassment of causing both goals. Unfortunately when we play a good side they force us back because DCs tactics do not work as your front two are left out to dry trying to chase three or four players around. Until we attackas a team and defend as a team by moving up as a unit then we will fail against the better sides.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 23:57:31 GMT
He was unlucky but a bit naive with the penalty, but to blame him for the second goal is harsh beyond belief. He was very unlucky to lose possesion but it only led indirectly to the chance, and more to the point, what the hell was Tom Parkes doing?!
Lyttle did very little wrong apart from the penalty and your 'report' does you no favours there Steve. But wait, he's not Leadbitter is he?!
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 30, 2015 9:18:00 GMT
To be honest I thought it was a penalty, if it had been the other way round many of our supporters would have been screaming for it. Tyler has to realise that putting both hands on the back of the forward stood in front of you in the penalty area who is backing into you gives him the opportunity to 'professionally' fall over. Hopefully Tyler learns a hard lesson from it. I like the look of Tyler, he looks a good player, controls and plays the ball well, I hope we see him play again. I saw Tyler in pre season alot and thought he handled himself very well. A wing back position seemed to suit his play, which now with hindsight seems a master stroke. Wasn't there so cant comment and totally accept Bridgeman take on it. Darryl was kind in after match interview. Fair play with the hands thong if true.....but what about the other misdemeanors? I mean, come on?! On tv, the did question it and it looks innocuous to say the least. Harsh on Tyler but he's brill and will come through this.....s***e decision, ref, sorry. That's just how I see it backing the boy Tyler. I saw him play in the friendly away to Salisbury and was very impressed with his performance, he created an excellent goal for Jamie Lucas in that game and got up and down the pitch but got stuck in defensively. My take on his performance was that he was let down by those around him by not trusting him enough, if Danny had been on the pitch the ball would have been played out to him a lot more. There was one crossfield pass to Tyler which he brought down superbly and then put in a superb cross, just hope his confidence isn't to badly affected.
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Post by fanatical on Aug 30, 2015 9:29:23 GMT
I find it strange that Tyler was played at all in what was a game against strong opposition and away from home in what was his debut. After Leadbitter departed last week Gosling came on and the team continued to function well and I would started with that line-up and saved Tyler to make his debut next week at home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 9:53:27 GMT
I disagree, and after castigating Clarke for not picking a full back in that Mansfield game, I'm not knocking him for playing a round peg in a round hole.
Tyler looked ready, and more importantly did OK in 44 out of 45 minutes.
He made a small mistake with the penalty that I reckon he'd get away with 7 times out of 10, and its fair to criticise him for that.
But on the second, he lost the ball in a full blooded 50/50 challenge on the touchline. Yes, he made the wrong decision in trying to beat his man but he was dead unlucky to see them score from that possession. I still think Parkes was wholly at fault for the goal.
Players give the ball away regularly at all levels of the game, it doesn't seem fair to me to criticise an 18 year old debutant for giving it away in a challenge where he was wholly committed and let down purely by the bounce of the ball.
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Post by brizzle on Aug 30, 2015 13:31:49 GMT
I disagree, and after castigating Clarke for not picking a full back in that Mansfield game, I'm not knocking him for playing a round peg in a round hole. Tyler looked ready, and more importantly did OK in 44 out of 45 minutes. He made a small mistake with the penalty that I reckon he'd get away with 7 times out of 10, and its fair to criticise him for that. But on the second, he lost the ball in a full blooded 50/50 challenge on the touchline. Yes, he made the wrong decision in trying to beat his man but he was dead unlucky to see them score from that possession. I still think Parkes was wholly at fault for the goal. Players give the ball away regularly at all levels of the game, it doesn't seem fair to me to criticise an 18 year old debutant for giving it away in a challenge where he was wholly committed and let down purely by the bounce of the ball.Well said. All young players at all levels of the game have to step up sometimes, and when they do they should be able to expect encouragement and support from the fans.
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Post by fanatical on Aug 30, 2015 13:44:06 GMT
I disagree, and after castigating Clarke for not picking a full back in that Mansfield game, I'm not knocking him for playing a round peg in a round hole. Tyler looked ready, and more importantly did OK in 44 out of 45 minutes. He made a small mistake with the penalty that I reckon he'd get away with 7 times out of 10, and its fair to criticise him for that. But on the second, he lost the ball in a full blooded 50/50 challenge on the touchline. Yes, he made the wrong decision in trying to beat his man but he was dead unlucky to see them score from that possession. I still think Parkes was wholly at fault for the goal. Players give the ball away regularly at all levels of the game, it doesn't seem fair to me to criticise an 18 year old debutant for giving it away in a challenge where he was wholly committed and let down purely by the bounce of the ball.Well said. All young players at all levels of the game have to step up sometimes, and when they do they should be able to expect encouragement and support from the fans. nothing wrong with giving the youngster his chance - just the wrong time and place
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 30, 2015 14:02:01 GMT
Parkes decided to go to ground (in the box) instead of standing his man up, gave the guy all the time and space he needed to get a shot away to make it 2-0.
If there is any blame to be had at all, it is there.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 30, 2015 15:00:03 GMT
I took the tube and arrived early in the multi-cultural suburb that is Leyton, so went off for a double halal burger and chips before the start. It set me back £4, with a can of coke, so all the noise about London prices seemed to be rubbish. Until I went to buy a ticket, which at £24 represents a third more than the most we were paying last year. So everything’s not brilliant, being back in the football league. But then we went in, and the Gas started arriving. By kick-off time there were over a thousand of us, making a frightful din, playing against a proper club, and it was brilliant to be back where we belong.
The O’s came out with a little old man at right back and a member of Musical Youth in midfield, but apart from that no one I noticed or knew anything about.
Rovers came out with the same team as last week, but with Lyttle stepping up from our Youth to fill the boots of injured man-in-form Danny Ledbitter. Apparently Lyttle is 17, but he doesn’t look it. The bench was heavy with M’s – Mildy, the two new Mons, Mans and Matty – plus Gosling and Bodin, which seemed to me to provide a range of game-changing options. Both teams started brightly enough, and the noise was pretty deafening at the back where I was standing. Orient played a pressing defence, whereas we sat back, kept our shape, and let them pass it. It wasn’t obvious that they were going to get through us, and we had two attacks in the first 15 minutes which had lovely end-to-end football. So classic home vs. away tactics, and it looked pretty tight and evenly balanced.
Easter got cornered between two of their players near the half-way line, and used his quick and silky feet to get through them. One of them stuck out a leg in frustration, and duly went in the book. He doesn’t always do a lot, but what he does do can look good at times.
Then a long ball into the box saw Lyttle beat their bloke to the header, after which, to the bemusement of everyone, the ref blew for a penalty. As far as I saw no Orient player appealed, nor did their crowd, and Rovers were too bemused to object. All very odd, but their bloke poked it up the middle while Chapman dived to his right, and we were one-nil down.
Rovers’ fans were pretty incensed, and one was fairly promptly chucked out by the Plod who provided a useful verbal outlet for fans’ anger over the next few minutes.
We almost struck back straight away, but then they dominated for a bit, always seeming to have more options and men in the middle than us, before we finally got our foot on the ball and a chance to dominate for about five minutes before half-time. We’d stuck with the Christmas tree formation, and we got a chance to see what they were trying to do, but we couldn’t seem to make it last.
When they were doing well it was often down our right. Their midfielders were finding space between Lines and Lyttle, and working the triangles well. It seemed to me that Lines was often marking space, leaving Lyttle to pick up two players, but the bloke next to me wondered if Lyttle hadn’t tuned into the team’s pattern of play yet.
In injury time Lyttle had the ball on the right and tried to beat his man. He half-did, but it cannoned off the O behind, and we lost the ball. In truth, he’d taken the wrong option. Orient turned it goal-ward and worked a good opportunity which they just squeaked past Chapman. A horrid way to end the half.
Second half Lyttle, who apart from the 2 mistakes and the holes with Lines, had looked very competent, was replaced by Monakana, and Ollie Clarke, who had also often found himself marking space (or maybe just ‘keeping the shape’) was replaced by Montano. The changes seemed to make sense, and showed attacking intent I thought.
Things were pretty even, with a bit more space opening up and Orient less able to press as the players tired. Play ebbed and flowed between the sides, with Orient making more chances and Chapman making some good stops.
Taylor came on for Easter who has been looking a bit fitter than before but still unable to really make his mark throughout games. It seemed to me to be a good call – a player who could help us shape the space that was now becoming available.
Taylor’s first few touches were pretty disastrous, though, and one misplaced cross-field ball set up a great Orient attack which almost resulted in a goal. If it had been Lyttle’s pass it definitely would have been a goal, given his luck on the day.
The still-deafening Gas started to get quite crotchety with the O’s at the end of the ground, and a few bits of ‘banta’ ended with a Rovers rendition of Blowing Bubbles. That probably has some irony for some of the critics of the Board on here.
Lines relinquished some of the set-piece deliveries towards the end, and they seemed to improve as a result. We had one free-kick which flashed within inches of the goal after the faintest of headers, but that was probably about as close to scoring as we came. Well, apart from one goalmouth scramble where one of our blokes knee’d it over the bar as a reflex when it was pinballing around between players.
Sincs got a bit more influential as the space developed to exploit his running, and Monakana looked very capable down the right flank, but we too often hoofed to short players up front (in one case it was Sincs, the smallest player on the field, who we hoofed to in hope).
We didn’t lack spirit, but we didn’t have many options beyond the hopeful running of Harrison upfront. When we did create options, it was when we moved forward as a team, but playing a ‘dropping back’ defence made that fairly rare.
I thought Lyttle was unfortunate, rather than had a ‘mare, but the rest of the team neither shone nor failed. Orient rode their luck, and probably edged it since they created more chances than us, but a draw or a one-goal defeat was probably a reflection of the game.
I walked back to the tube in some early-autumn drizzle. I had a headache from the noise of all that singing, but it felt like while we had been hoping for a big-match roller-coaster, we ended up with a Bank Holiday disrupted train journey.
Thank you. I enjoyed reading that.
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 30, 2015 16:42:19 GMT
Parkes decided to go to ground (in the box) instead of standing his man up, gave the guy all the time and space he needed to get a shot away to make it 2-0. If there is any blame to be had at all, it is there. When the ball was whipped in from the left wing Parkes had left his player unmarked goal side, I think he was just starting to move up the pitch, if Clarke had moved with him the Orient player would have been offside but the striker took his goal well.
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