irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Aug 10, 2015 16:45:43 GMT
I don't understand why the third umpire can't watch the front foot on every delivery and signal to the umpire almost instantly when its clearly over on first viewing. Closer decisions that require slow motion replays could be left as benefit of doubt unless a wicket falls, and then looked into afterwards. You'd definitely think that this was an extremely solvable problem in the modern world really and given that cricket has generally been very innovative in its use of technology over the last 20 years I don't really understand why this remains an issue. I've changed my mind on the DRS now. I used to argue that you should keep your review if it's an Umpire's call but now I don't think you should. The rationale for DRS is that it's there to get rid of howlers, not borderline calls. Therefore if it's a borderline call then you shouldn't have reviewed it because that's not what it's therefore so tough. I always think you can tell pretty easily with DRS whether it's going to be overturned or not based on how long they take to make the decision to review. If batsman/bowler react immediately then you're pretty sure the umpires got it wrong - if they spend 30 seconds looking slightly desperate/overly keen at the non-striking batsmen/on field captain then you know there's naff all change of it being overturned because they think it's borderline it probably is!
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 10, 2015 17:31:10 GMT
I think I'm correct in saying that Ian Botham never bowled a no-ball in his career?
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Aug 10, 2015 18:19:30 GMT
I think I'm correct in saying that Ian Botham never bowled a no-ball in his career? I certainly think Ian Botham remembers Ian Botham as never having bowled a no-ball in his career! I'd never heard that mentioned of Botham though and I'd have thought it would come up quite regularly if true - in other words every time a bowler is struggling with No-Balls I'd have thought it would come up as a talking point. It's certainly very possibly though. It's all about the run-up. If you have a smooth, easily replicable bowling action and you concentrate sufficiently when measuring your run-up out then it's perfectly possible to never bowl one. Botham definitely falls into that category - he had an excellent action, particularly earlier in his career. He was famously taught by Tom Cartwright who was the consumate professional and one of the pioneers of modern bowling techniques - I could certainly imagine Cartwright having very little truck with bowling no balls. So it's definitely believable. Holding is another one who often claims not to have bowled no balls, I guess someone like Dennis Lillee or Malcolm Marshall might fall into that category as well. Finn, Wood etc are in the effort bowler category though. Their actions are not as smooth and a lot of the pace is exerted in the delivery stride at the crease - as a general rule I think these type of bowlers are more likely to bowl no-nalls.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 19:18:56 GMT
I think I'm correct in saying that Ian Botham never bowled a no-ball in his career? I thought that was Gary Lineker?
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 10, 2015 19:32:57 GMT
I've never heard Botham claim not to have ever bowled no balls. I have however heard him say that he remembered the first time he took a wicket which was called as a no ball, although he did say in the interview what game it was, sadly I can't remember . He said after all the hard work and practice that he had put in and then to have it taken it away because of an error he caused made him determined never to let that happen again. So I think you can take from that he bowled very few no balls from that time onwards.
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Aug 13, 2015 6:50:35 GMT
I think I'm correct in saying that Ian Botham never bowled a no-ball in his career? I certainly think Ian Botham remembers Ian Botham as never having bowled a no-ball in his career! I'd never heard that mentioned of Botham though and I'd have thought it would come up quite regularly if true - in other words every time a bowler is struggling with No-Balls I'd have thought it would come up as a talking point. It's certainly very possibly though. It's all about the run-up. If you have a smooth, easily replicable bowling action and you concentrate sufficiently when measuring your run-up out then it's perfectly possible to never bowl one. Botham definitely falls into that category - he had an excellent action, particularly earlier in his career. He was famously taught by Tom Cartwright who was the consumate professional and one of the pioneers of modern bowling techniques - I could certainly imagine Cartwright having very little truck with bowling no balls. So it's definitely believable. Holding is another one who often claims not to have bowled no balls, I guess someone like Dennis Lillee or Malcolm Marshall might fall into that category as well. Finn, Wood etc are in the effort bowler category though. Their actions are not as smooth and a lot of the pace is exerted in the delivery stride at the crease - as a general rule I think these type of bowlers are more likely to bowl no-nalls. Pakistan`s fast bowlers seem prone to bowl no-balls. Especially when they`ve been paid to.
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