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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 14:57:23 GMT
He said he supported both clubs, absolute oddball statement. He may be a top guy who has put in work but I'd like both boxers to win tonight. Why alienate half of Bristol ? A boxers time, if successful, is finite and one punch away from the end. Your andwer in who he follows is how many times has he been to our place ? Haha. Just say you're not that into football maybe? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 14:58:41 GMT
I've followed Haskins's career for a long time and been to all the academy fights and I have to say I'm always surprised he's had as much success as he has. His technique is very poor. A truly hilarious comment, comedy gold!!!! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 14, 2015 15:05:46 GMT
I've followed Haskins's career for a long time and been to all the academy fights and I have to say I'm always surprised he's had as much success as he has. His technique is very poor. A truly hilarious comment, comedy gold!!!! Innit ffs ! I don't know why I bit. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 14, 2015 15:51:54 GMT
I've followed Haskins's career for a long time and been to all the academy fights and I have to say I'm always surprised he's had as much success as he has. His technique is very poor. Utter piffle. Why do you think everyone has avoided him eh ? Technique is superb. His KO % is not good but he can make good boxers look average. It's the ppv that has been problematical as people want to see KO yet Mayweather has dined out on that. How you come to your conclusion baffles me. Have you ever boxed ? Hmm ... only a couple of decades watching and about 15 years training at places like Repton, Bethnal Green and City of Bath (what was Percy Boys) so yeah just a bit thanks. He boxes from the waist, has no defensive stance or strategy, throws very few combinations, has limited accuracy and relies on power which is a skill in itself but has an ever decreasing effect the longer the fight lasts. So I have to disagree that his technique is superb. Sorry it's just not. He's got some very heavy hooks and a devastating uppercut, his bob is lightening quick and those things have made him successful. But none of those things mean he has good technique. Some of the world's most successful fighters haven't been great technical - Ali/Clay and Naseem Hamed most notably but they had other gifts that worked for them. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 14, 2015 15:53:32 GMT
I've followed Haskins's career for a long time and been to all the academy fights and I have to say I'm always surprised he's had as much success as he has. His technique is very poor. A truly hilarious comment, comedy gold!!!! See above. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 16:28:34 GMT
I've followed Haskins's career for a long time and been to all the academy fights and I have to say I'm always surprised he's had as much success as he has. His technique is very poor. Utter piffle. Why do you think everyone has avoided him eh ? Technique is superb. His KO % is not good but he can make good boxers look average. It's the ppv that has been problematical as people want to see KO yet Mayweather has dined out on that. How you come to your conclusion baffles me. Have you ever boxed ? A very good win for lee last night but I have to say, just like one of my all time favourite boxers who the `best` avoided, Herol Graham, his style is awkward and not traditional as such but his technique is effective. That left hand came from nowhere just at the right time! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 16:31:21 GMT
He said he supported both clubs, absolute oddball statement. He may be a top guy who has put in work but I'd like both boxers to win tonight. Not really that oddball if you view it dispassionately - plenty of that sort of person in the 1940s and 1950s.
As we established about a month ago, Lee's not really into football, but realises that his fan base will probably sit either side of the red/blue divide. Good luck Lee. Also in the 70s and 80s as I knew quite a few. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 14, 2015 16:41:46 GMT
Utter piffle. Why do you think everyone has avoided him eh ? Technique is superb. His KO % is not good but he can make good boxers look average. It's the ppv that has been problematical as people want to see KO yet Mayweather has dined out on that. How you come to your conclusion baffles me. Have you ever boxed ? A very good win for lee last night but I have to say, just like one of my all time favourite boxers who the `best` avoided, Herol Graham, his style is awkward and not traditional as such but his technique is effective. That left hand came from nowhere just at the right time! Indeed. Naseem Hamed fought in exactly the Herol Graham style - taught by the man himself. |
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 14, 2015 17:20:56 GMT
Haskins isnt a text book boxer for sure, but he has his own style that he has obviously worked on for 15 years and served him well.
He earned his shot whoch was overdur and took it. Ranked 2 by the WBC as well.
Well done Lee
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 14, 2015 21:57:16 GMT
Utter piffle. Why do you think everyone has avoided him eh ? Technique is superb. His KO % is not good but he can make good boxers look average. It's the ppv that has been problematical as people want to see KO yet Mayweather has dined out on that. How you come to your conclusion baffles me. Have you ever boxed ? Hmm ... only a couple of decades watching and about 15 years training at places like Repton, Bethnal Green and City of Bath (what was Percy Boys) so yeah just a bit thanks. He boxes from the waist, has no defensive stance or strategy, throws very few combinations, has limited accuracy and relies on power which is a skill in itself but has an ever decreasing effect the longer the fight lasts. So I have to disagree that his technique is superb. Sorry it's just not. He's got some very heavy hooks and a devastating uppercut, his bob is lightening quick and those things have made him successful. But none of those things mean he has good technique. Some of the world's most successful fighters haven't been great technical - Ali/Clay and Naseem Hamed most notably but they had other gifts that worked for them. Spar with him or just do pads. Never knows such ballcocks. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 15, 2015 8:27:56 GMT
Hmm ... only a couple of decades watching and about 15 years training at places like Repton, Bethnal Green and City of Bath (what was Percy Boys) so yeah just a bit thanks. He boxes from the waist, has no defensive stance or strategy, throws very few combinations, has limited accuracy and relies on power which is a skill in itself but has an ever decreasing effect the longer the fight lasts. So I have to disagree that his technique is superb. Sorry it's just not. He's got some very heavy hooks and a devastating uppercut, his bob is lightening quick and those things have made him successful. But none of those things mean he has good technique. Some of the world's most successful fighters haven't been great technical - Ali/Clay and Naseem Hamed most notably but they had other gifts that worked for them. Spar with him or just do pads. Never knows such ballcocks. Yeah you've not really addressed anything I've said, probably because it's all 100% true and all clearly on display in Friday's bout. Your comment is just meaningless - I'm sure I would find it difficult to spar with a world champion but then I'm sure a county champion would find it difficult against a world champion. He relies on his considerable power. Just because you think he's a good fighter doesn't make him a technical boxer. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 17, 2015 15:27:03 GMT
Spar with him or just do pads. Never knows such ballcocks. Yeah you've not really addressed anything I've said, probably because it's all 100% true and all clearly on display in Friday's bout. Your comment is just meaningless - I'm sure I would find it difficult to spar with a world champion but then I'm sure a county champion would find it difficult against a world champion. He relies on his considerable power. Just because you think he's a good fighter doesn't make him a technical boxer. Look on boxrec and you will see your perceived considerable power is not even close to reality. His KO % is poor. His technical ability is why he is avoided. He candle so called better and technically gifted boxers look very ordinary. You really are on a wrong one here but each to their own. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 17, 2015 17:50:19 GMT
Yeah you've not really addressed anything I've said, probably because it's all 100% true and all clearly on display in Friday's bout. Your comment is just meaningless - I'm sure I would find it difficult to spar with a world champion but then I'm sure a county champion would find it difficult against a world champion. He relies on his considerable power. Just because you think he's a good fighter doesn't make him a technical boxer. Look on boxrec and you will see your perceived considerable power is not even close to reality. His KO % is poor. His technical ability is why he is avoided. He candle so called better and technically gifted boxers look very ordinary. You really are on a wrong one here but each to their own. How about I replay my recording of the fight and write down some quotes from the commentary that proves my point? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 20, 2015 1:46:43 GMT
Look on boxrec and you will see your perceived considerable power is not even close to reality. His KO % is poor. His technical ability is why he is avoided. He candle so called better and technically gifted boxers look very ordinary. You really are on a wrong one here but each to their own. How about I replay my recording of the fight and write down some quotes from the commentary that proves my point? It still would prove nothing. Opinions are what we have but facts are just that. His record speaks for itself. That you believe him to be technically lacking is your opinion. I see and have worked with Lee often. One of my hobbies is writing up fights while the Mrs takes photos for ring magazine and boxing news, amongst others. Lee is not popular because of his awkward southpaw style. He can make boxers miss, that's a form of defence in itself. His PPV potential is not seen as good and so he had been avoided many times. He is a busy fighter and has lost 3 times. He is now interim IBF champ and is at last getting decent offers. The proof is there, you may not think him good but ultimately that means nothing. He has proved himself over and over. It's obvious you don't like that style but again that actually means nothing. The commentators talk so much nonsense too. Talk to Glenn Cattley, Chris Sanigar or even Barry Mcguigan. They have more intimate knowledge that any of the has beens who attempt to make a go of it. It's a pointless exercise but if you feel it rationalises your belief then please feel free to undertake it. Most thought Lee would lose. The record and his place in boxing history are now assured. Randy Cabsllero has 87 days to fight Lee or relinquish the title. It's a great shame that a local guy would feel the need to put him down. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 20, 2015 9:32:45 GMT
How about I replay my recording of the fight and write down some quotes from the commentary that proves my point? It still would prove nothing. Opinions are what we have but facts are just that. His record speaks for itself. That you believe him to be technically lacking is your opinion. I see and have worked with Lee often. One of my hobbies is writing up fights while the Mrs takes photos for ring magazine and boxing news, amongst others. Lee is not popular because of his awkward southpaw style. He can make boxers miss, that's a form of defence in itself. His PPV potential is not seen as good and so he had been avoided many times. He is a busy fighter and has lost 3 times. He is now interim IBF champ and is at last getting decent offers. The proof is there, you may not think him good but ultimately that means nothing. He has proved himself over and over. It's obvious you don't like that style but again that actually means nothing. The commentators talk so much nonsense too. Talk to Glenn Cattley, Chris Sanigar or even Barry Mcguigan. They have more intimate knowledge that any of the has beens who attempt to make a go of it. It's a pointless exercise but if you feel it rationalises your belief then please feel free to undertake it. Most thought Lee would lose. The record and his place in boxing history are now assured. Randy Cabsllero has 87 days to fight Lee or relinquish the title. It's a great shame that a local guy would feel the need to put him down. Haha! So I don't know what I'm talking about and nor do the professionals with years of experience employed to commentate. You're the only one who knows what you're talking about because you've done some magazine write ups. Haha. Good one. I won't even bother asking you to show me where I said he's no good or put him down. You'll probably tell me that I won't know what I've said and nor will anyone else capable of reading because you've done some write ups for a reading magazine while your Mrs took photos of people reading. Ahahahaha. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 20, 2015 12:25:35 GMT
It still would prove nothing. Opinions are what we have but facts are just that. His record speaks for itself. That you believe him to be technically lacking is your opinion. I see and have worked with Lee often. One of my hobbies is writing up fights while the Mrs takes photos for ring magazine and boxing news, amongst others. Lee is not popular because of his awkward southpaw style. He can make boxers miss, that's a form of defence in itself. His PPV potential is not seen as good and so he had been avoided many times. He is a busy fighter and has lost 3 times. He is now interim IBF champ and is at last getting decent offers. The proof is there, you may not think him good but ultimately that means nothing. He has proved himself over and over. It's obvious you don't like that style but again that actually means nothing. The commentators talk so much nonsense too. Talk to Glenn Cattley, Chris Sanigar or even Barry Mcguigan. They have more intimate knowledge that any of the has beens who attempt to make a go of it. It's a pointless exercise but if you feel it rationalises your belief then please feel free to undertake it. Most thought Lee would lose. The record and his place in boxing history are now assured. Randy Cabsllero has 87 days to fight Lee or relinquish the title. It's a great shame that a local guy would feel the need to put him down. Haha! So I don't know what I'm talking about and nor do the professionals with years of experience employed to commentate. You're the only one who knows what you're talking about because you've done some magazine write ups. Haha. Good one. I won't even bother asking you to show me where I said he's no good or put him down. You'll probably tell me that I won't know what I've said and nor will anyone else capable of reading because you've done some write ups for a reading magazine while your Mrs took photos of people reading. Ahahahaha. I really don't get your problem. You are acting like a Troll and are looking to carry this on for no other reason than to get a rise. For the record I feel people like Jim Watt and the channel 5 commentary team to be not just poor but rarely do any basic research into the boxers they talk about. Hey, I am leaving it at this. I see no point in engaging with you on this as you very obviously believe yourself to know better. I never said I was the only one who knew anything but i do know about Lee because I am close to Bristol Boxing and the Sanigars. You really do seem to have a superiority complex. The business of boxing has moved on in so many ways. The Mrs is well respected in her boxing photography but what I do is still very much an hobby and unpaid but info get free entry and get to indulge in a passion of mine gratis & i am more than happy at that. Small wonder I only use this place is small bursts. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 20, 2015 15:02:44 GMT
Haha! So I don't know what I'm talking about and nor do the professionals with years of experience employed to commentate. You're the only one who knows what you're talking about because you've done some magazine write ups. Haha. Good one. I won't even bother asking you to show me where I said he's no good or put him down. You'll probably tell me that I won't know what I've said and nor will anyone else capable of reading because you've done some write ups for a reading magazine while your Mrs took photos of people reading. Ahahahaha. I really don't get your problem. You are acting like a Troll and are looking to carry this on for no other reason than to get a rise. For the record I feel people like Jim Watt and the channel 5 commentary team to be not just poor but rarely do any basic research into the boxers they talk about. Hey, I am leaving it at this. I see no point in engaging with you on this as you very obviously believe yourself to know better. I never said I was the only one who knew anything but i do know about Lee because I am close to Bristol Boxing and the Sanigars. You really do seem to have a superiority complex. The business of boxing has moved on in so many ways. The Mrs is well respected in her boxing photography but what I do is still very much an hobby and unpaid but info get free entry and get to indulge in a passion of mine gratis & i am more than happy at that. Small wonder I only use this place is small bursts. I think you started this argument to do your little bit of bragging about being bestest forever friends with LH and in order to continue it you've had to say you know better than professional boxing journalists. You tried to call me out on having no boxing experience or knowledge and I've shown that's totally wrong. If you read my posts back they've been perfectly conversational and not argumentative all along but you've been confrontational from the off so you can brag about being some sort of Bristol boxing face and act like you're Bert Sugar. No superiority complex from me. All the best. |
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Post by a more piratey game on May 14, 2016 23:18:28 GMT
Just watched tonight's fight. He was very dominant but is a very unusual boxer I thought. Nowt wrong with that though - unless his low hands lead to a very heavy bop on the chin
His speed and weirdness made it a very good watch, i thought
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