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Post by hollyhillgas on Jun 1, 2015 8:11:41 GMT
But who will the sponsors follow, emerging markets in Africa and Asia, or Europe with most customers already locked into brand loyalty?
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Post by syg on Jun 1, 2015 9:56:13 GMT
If there was a split Euro/Americas - Africa/Asia. Most Europeans arent interested in watching African/Asian football. Africans/Asians are obsessed with watching European football. The sponsors would flock to Euro/Americas, I think UEFA should get aggressive on this. But i guess they wont.
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Post by midlandgas on Jun 1, 2015 21:15:12 GMT
How are we going to boycott it we probably won't even qualify
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 21:26:22 GMT
I could live without the Russia and Qatar world cup. How funny would it be for them to have to recover money from FIFA who no longer had UEFA. Blatter is a twat and anyone who thinks appointing a Cayman Island Football Association head as VP is sadly lacking in judgement. We do not need nor want FIFA. UEFA should remove itself this summer. Does UEFA gift the football giants of Faroe Islands and Sam Marino the same voting rights as England, Germany etc? Every association gets one vote, so yes San Marino gets one so does England get one. Money from FIFA going to smaller countries but if the current investigation is correct, then they also have to pay to hold the competition.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 22:54:09 GMT
So UEFA and CONMEBOL both think it all stinks. Either they set up a separate competition, accepting applications from elsewhere, or they stay and effectively endorse it. A breakaway of European and South American teams (plus probably Oz et al to add a global aspect), maybe back in Brazil to save on organisational hassle, at the same time as the money guys convene in Russia... Problem solved. The cameras are in Brazil. Not going to happen though. Did I hear somewhere that Spain back Blatter? Have they explained por que?
If they're not prepared to do that, I guess it officially doesn't matter and we might as well drop the outrage.
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Post by markwind on Jun 1, 2015 23:53:16 GMT
Being disappointing is one thing (gawd knows we have seen enough of that!) - being (allegedly) corrupt is something else. I also recall a certain Mr Warner being involved with Ollie many years ago on what seemed like a dodgy deal for a player that, thankfully, never got going. Thought then that there was something fishy with people like that. Really?? I'm guessing that would be Nigel Pierre?
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 2, 2015 4:10:55 GMT
Being disappointing is one thing (gawd knows we have seen enough of that!) - being (allegedly) corrupt is something else. I also recall a certain Mr Warner being involved with Ollie many years ago on what seemed like a dodgy deal for a player that, thankfully, never got going. Thought then that there was something fishy with people like that. Really?? I'm guessing that would be Nigel Pierre? That's the one! Really can't recall much about it now but just that it had an "iffy" smell about it.
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Post by markwind on Jun 2, 2015 5:44:33 GMT
Really?? I'm guessing that would be Nigel Pierre? That's the one! Really can't recall much about it now but just that it had an "iffy" smell about it. Yea it was kind of an odd one. I remember him playing a couple of times for us. I remember watching him away at Oldham and he looked a decent player. We couldn't get him on a permanent deal due to work permit issues. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Pierre
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Post by ashperry83 on Jun 2, 2015 7:57:43 GMT
I still want to watch this, for a laugh!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 9:34:38 GMT
So UEFA and CONMEBOL both think it all stinks. Either they set up a separate competition, accepting applications from elsewhere, or they stay and effectively endorse it. A breakaway of European and South American teams (plus probably Oz et al to add a global aspect), maybe back in Brazil to save on organisational hassle, at the same time as the money guys convene in Russia... Problem solved. The cameras are in Brazil. Not going to happen though. Did I hear somewhere that Spain back Blatter? Have they explained por que? If they're not prepared to do that, I guess it officially doesn't matter and we might as well drop the outrage. With the noise coming from Westminster yesterday, it's hard to see how The FA can be an active member of FIFA as long as Blatter remains?
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Post by irishrover on Jun 3, 2015 10:24:27 GMT
So UEFA and CONMEBOL both think it all stinks. Either they set up a separate competition, accepting applications from elsewhere, or they stay and effectively endorse it. A breakaway of European and South American teams (plus probably Oz et al to add a global aspect), maybe back in Brazil to save on organisational hassle, at the same time as the money guys convene in Russia... Problem solved. The cameras are in Brazil. Not going to happen though. Did I hear somewhere that Spain back Blatter? Have they explained por que? If they're not prepared to do that, I guess it officially doesn't matter and we might as well drop the outrage. With the noise coming from Westminster yesterday, it's hard to see how The FA can be an active member of FIFA as long as Blatter remains? I know this may have now become academic but there's a dynamic at play here which is club v country. If the World Cup is weakened and if associations split then even more of the power in the World game will go to clubs due to perceived chaos and perceived decline of international football. I think that plus the dilution of sponsorship interests is the main reason this wouldn't happen. By opting out of FIFA individual Associations would be taking a big risk with their revenues and their status in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 10:32:23 GMT
With the noise coming from Westminster yesterday, it's hard to see how The FA can be an active member of FIFA as long as Blatter remains? I know this may have now become academic but there's a dynamic at play here which is club v country. If the World Cup is weakened and if associations split then even more of the power in the World game will go to clubs due to perceived chaos and perceived decline of international football. I think that plus the dilution of sponsorship interests is the main reason this wouldn't happen. By opting out of FIFA individual Associations would be taking a big risk with their revenues and their status in the game. As always, money will win. McDonalds, Nike, broadcasters and all the rest were obviously getting a return on their investment, the World Cup will continue. With FIFA as it is the status of the game is damaged globally. Right, next on the list. Who is going to have the balls to stand up to the EU and get that properly reformed to stop the theft, corruption and nepotism and get control away from the mad far-left and returned to the people of each member state?
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Post by gonzales on Jun 3, 2015 10:48:12 GMT
Will the moderators please remove this thread before a non footballing debate takes hold. Rickie Lambert won't be around the England team for the next World Cup so this cannot be justified as Gas talk.
Further, Gasgoin, if this thread continues please elaborate on 'the mad far-left' you are of the belief run the EU? Would they be the same far-left whom are trying to push thru the TTIP agenda, running the EU like a fourth reich and debunking the mandate of Greece's democratically elected Government?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 11:43:00 GMT
Will the moderators please remove this thread before a non footballing debate takes hold. Rickie Lambert won't be around the England team for the next World Cup so this cannot be justified as Gas talk. Further, Gasgoin, if this thread continues please elaborate on 'the mad far-left' you are of the belief run the EU? Would they be the same far-left whom are trying to push thru the TTIP agenda, running the EU like a fourth reich and debunking the mandate of Greece's democratically elected Government? Research the political history of the people who actually run the EU, you'll find that a history of association with the far-left seems to be a pretty sure-fire way of fast tracking yourself to a position of power. But you can call it whatever you like, stealing money from the bank accounts of citizens and the German proposal to steal a % of the value of people's properties in the Mediteranian countries, so that they can prop up their failed ideology are actions indicitive of the depths that these (often unelected and always unacountable) people will sink to to retain power and inflict their believes on us all.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 3, 2015 12:10:57 GMT
"debunking the mandate of Greece's democratically elected Government?" - Is that the mandate that says they still want to spend other peoples money, without ever paying any of it back?
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