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Post by Geelong Gas on May 25, 2015 4:31:43 GMT
Thoughts on his likely appointment to the England head coaching poisoned chalice position?
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Post by brizzle on May 26, 2015 14:01:18 GMT
Thoughts on his likely appointment to the England head coaching poisoned chalice position? Well there's a surprise, because like you I thought that Jason Gillespie was the preferred choice for the job of England's Head Coach . . . but it appears not to be the case. From BBC Sport . . . So from that I assume that Jason Gillespie was interviewed, but not offered the job. There was talk in the media about his wife being concerned at the amount of time that he would have to spend on tour, and away from his young family. It may well be that this was an issue, but who knows. |
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Post by irishrover on May 26, 2015 14:07:10 GMT
Suggests that the ECB are changing the emphasis of the England coaching staff towards a focus on ODI's and T20 ahead of the 2019 World Cup which we host. They presumably do not want a repeat of the 1999 embarrassment where we crashed out ignominiously at home, which is clearly worse than crashing out ignominiously time after time away from home....
Can't imagine Gillespie will be too bothered - he has a nice thing going at Yorkshire and it is a very intensive job these days.
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Post by Geelong Gas on Jun 3, 2015 7:31:07 GMT
I obviously spoke too soon. Think it would have just been a stepping stone for Gillespie to the bigger gig of Australian coach anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 8:34:14 GMT
the bigger gig of Australian coach anyway. You've changed! |
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Post by brizzle on Jun 4, 2015 12:32:56 GMT
I obviously spoke too soon. Think it would have just been a stepping stone for Gillespie to the bigger gig of Australian coach anyway. On the contrary, if you even half believe what is in the media then it was a reasonable assumption to make. I had never heard of another serious candidate being mentioned, let alone Trevor Bayliss who it is now claimed was always the preferred choice. I'm still undecided as to whether Jason Gillespie turned the job down and the other (secret) candidate was then revealed, or whether Gillespie was always going to be the fall-guy, soaking up and deflecting the media interest until such time as negotiations had been completed with Trevor Bayliss. |
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Post by irishrover on Jun 4, 2015 20:22:10 GMT
I obviously spoke too soon. Think it would have just been a stepping stone for Gillespie to the bigger gig of Australian coach anyway. On the contrary, if you even half believe what is in the media then it was a reasonable assumption to make. I had never heard of another serious candidate being mentioned, let alone Trevor Bayliss who it is now claimed was always the preferred choice. I'm still undecided as to whether Jason Gillespie turned the job down and the other (secret) candidate was then revealed, or whether Gillespie was always going to be the fall-guy, soaking up and deflecting the media interest until such time as negotiations had been completed with Trevor Bayliss. It is interesting that Bayliss wasn't really mentioned until the very end. The ECB definitely wanted to give the impression they were about to select Gillespie. We make far more of a fuss about this sort of thing than other countries do; it's not like football managers, cricket head coaches really don't make all that much difference. |
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Post by Geelong Gas on Jun 5, 2015 3:46:24 GMT
the bigger gig of Australian coach anyway. You've changed! I meant from Gillespie's viewpoint! At times he has been spoken of as a future coach here for the Convict XI. |
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Post by Geelong Gas on Jun 5, 2015 3:51:23 GMT
On the contrary, if you even half believe what is in the media then it was a reasonable assumption to make. I had never heard of another serious candidate being mentioned, let alone Trevor Bayliss who it is now claimed was always the preferred choice. I'm still undecided as to whether Jason Gillespie turned the job down and the other (secret) candidate was then revealed, or whether Gillespie was always going to be the fall-guy, soaking up and deflecting the media interest until such time as negotiations had been completed with Trevor Bayliss. It is interesting that Bayliss wasn't really mentioned until the very end. The ECB definitely wanted to give the impression they were about to select Gillespie. We make far more of a fuss about this sort of thing than other countries do; it's not like football managers, cricket head coaches really don't make all that much difference. Don't know about that here in Australia. The head coach of the Australian cricket team is perceived to be quite important. Whether he/she is or not is another matter. There was an almighty fuss when Micky Arthur was sacked and replaced by Boof Lehmann. |
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Post by irishrover on Jun 5, 2015 12:42:53 GMT
It is interesting that Bayliss wasn't really mentioned until the very end. The ECB definitely wanted to give the impression they were about to select Gillespie. We make far more of a fuss about this sort of thing than other countries do; it's not like football managers, cricket head coaches really don't make all that much difference. Don't know about that here in Australia. The head coach of the Australian cricket team is perceived to be quite important. Whether he/she is or not is another matter. There was an almighty fuss when Micky Arthur was sacked and replaced by Boof Lehmann. Yes but before that John Buchanan had been in charge for ages and barely seemed to receive any credit for the great Australian sides. They make convenient scapegoats when things go wrong but only England seem to put our cricket coaches on a pedestal; Flower and Fletcher get credit way beyond the potential of their actual impact. If you put a really good football manager in charge of an average side for the level that team would probably over achieve because there are so many things you can do in football related to team tactics, preparation and in game management that can potentially make a big difference. In cricket an average team managed by a good coach is not likely to improve all that much because it what ultimately matters is the individual contests. You can set an attitude or a tempo but beyond that there's limited influence. One of the reasons for Lehman's success is that he just simplified everything and players started to enjoy it again. Far too much middle management claptrap talked in cricket. |
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