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Post by crater on Feb 23, 2015 20:23:50 GMT
Cant see DC benching Taylor and I think he could link up well with Easter. Too good a footballer at this level to be sat on the sidelines. Hope Balanta gets a start tomorrow alongside MT if fit. Ellis just too ineffective for me.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 23, 2015 21:28:31 GMT
I can't see DC paying big money for Blisset then benching him, nor Easter being happy on the bench if he's still got anything about him, all Easter needs to do is score a couple of goals in a match & Taylor will be history.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 21:51:10 GMT
I can't see DC paying big money for Blisset then benching him, nor Easter being happy on the bench if he's still got anything about him, all Easter needs to do is score a couple of goals in a match & Taylor will be history. Utter nonsense, Taylor is doing fine. So he misses a few? He's a Conference player and a young one at that.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 23, 2015 21:59:02 GMT
He misses a hat-full. Maybe he could be tried in midfield alongside Mansell (when Sinclair not available). If he dropped back and let Monkey go up front that might work? Without labouring the point - I don't think we have had a regular striker in the last 30 years that has a lower conversion rate. And this is the Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 22:01:02 GMT
The goals don't get bigger because it's the Conference. The difference is the finishers aren't as good.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2015 8:35:45 GMT
He misses a hat-full. Maybe he could be tried in midfield alongside Mansell (when Sinclair not available). If he dropped back and let Monkey go up front that might work? Without labouring the point - I don't think we have had a regular striker in the last 30 years that has a lower conversion rate. And this is the Conference. Why try and fit him in the team if he's not up to playing in the role he's paid to play? You do wonder if the arrival of Easter is putting him under too much pressure to score, perhaps not surprisingly, as against Lincoln he missed at least an hat trick of easy chances, Grimsby missed a pen when he's usually reliable, now missed a shocker on Saturday, then again he might have always been the same! Perhaps a place on the bench/in the stands tonight might do in the world of good.
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 24, 2015 9:04:49 GMT
He misses a hat-full. Maybe he could be tried in midfield alongside Mansell (when Sinclair not available). If he dropped back and let Monkey go up front that might work? Without labouring the point - I don't think we have had a regular striker in the last 30 years that has a lower conversion rate. And this is the Conference. Why try and fit him in the team if he's not up to playing in the role he's paid to play? You do wonder if the arrival of Easter is putting him under too much pressure to score, perhaps not surprisingly, as against Lincoln he missed at least an hat trick of easy chances, Grimsby missed a pen when he's usually reliable, now missed a shocker on Saturday, then again he might have always been the same! Perhaps a place on the bench/in the stands tonight might do in the world of good. I don't think he is meant to be the leading goalscorer, a no.9. I think he's in the team as a no. 10, i.e. a creative attacker. He plays that role very well - how many goals has he been involved in this year? Loads in my memory. The fact that he is also getting in positions to score, is a bonus.
Besides, I personally never worry about a player not scoring, as long as he is getting in the positions to score. Especially a young player who has made a step up. Eventually they come good. We got rid of Jamie White because he wasn't getting in positions to score. Would you rather that Taylor was not getting in those positions?
I think the plan is to play Taylor and Easter together, while the raw Blissett builds experience and fitness.
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 24, 2015 9:11:31 GMT
He plays because he is our best forward.
Easter hasn’t been able to play yet to show, but we can all assume he was brought to bring a bit more cutting edge. If fit, where he plays and with who is the question/dilemma/bonus the team might need
Of course Taylor should have scored more, but quite frankly he is the only striker we have with the anticipation and ability to get in most of those goal scoring opportunities.
When we go up, Taylor stays for me, even if he becomes a back-up player, because he offers the team plenty
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 24, 2015 9:12:43 GMT
Why try and fit him in the team if he's not up to playing in the role he's paid to play? You do wonder if the arrival of Easter is putting him under too much pressure to score, perhaps not surprisingly, as against Lincoln he missed at least an hat trick of easy chances, Grimsby missed a pen when he's usually reliable, now missed a shocker on Saturday, then again he might have always been the same! Perhaps a place on the bench/in the stands tonight might do in the world of good. I don't think he is meant to be the leading goalscorer, a no.9. I think he's in the team as a no. 10, i.e. a creative attacker. He plays that role very well - how many goals has he been involved in this year? Loads in my memory. The fact that he is also getting in positions to score, is a bonus.
Besides, I personally never worry about a player not scoring, as long as he is getting in the positions to score. Especially a young player who has made a step up. Eventually they come good. We got rid of Jamie White because he wasn't getting in positions to score. Would you rather that Taylor was not getting in those positions?
I think the plan is to play Taylor and Easter together, while the raw Blissett builds experience and fitness.
Agree, I don't think Blissett would have played as much if we had other/better options
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Post by irishrover on Feb 24, 2015 14:40:26 GMT
He misses a hat-full. Maybe he could be tried in midfield alongside Mansell (when Sinclair not available). If he dropped back and let Monkey go up front that might work? Without labouring the point - I don't think we have had a regular striker in the last 30 years that has a lower conversion rate. And this is the Conference. Lee Thrope? Giuliano Grazioli? Paul Tait? None of them were as good in the build up as Taylor either. When I've seen us play he seems like a key attacking player for us (along with Sinclair). Take him out and I think a lot of our attacks would break down 30 yards from goal. He needs to play up front in order to find that space to work in - it wouldn't be as effective in a congested midfield space. Finding gaps between lumbering centre backs who have to watch their position is one thing - finding gaps among midfielders who play man to man is a whole other business. Some managers thought Rickie Lambert was a midfielder because of his playmaking ability - they were wrong because he couldn't find the same space to operate in from midfield. A South American style number 10 is a good basic description for Taylor. He's a playmaking forward - not an out and out striker. We seem to lack a bit of quality and guile outwide so we need that in the team for creativity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 15:04:20 GMT
Why try and fit him in the team if he's not up to playing in the role he's paid to play? You do wonder if the arrival of Easter is putting him under too much pressure to score, perhaps not surprisingly, as against Lincoln he missed at least an hat trick of easy chances, Grimsby missed a pen when he's usually reliable, now missed a shocker on Saturday, then again he might have always been the same! Perhaps a place on the bench/in the stands tonight might do in the world of good. I don't think he is meant to be the leading goalscorer, a no.9. I think he's in the team as a no. 10, i.e. a creative attacker. He plays that role very well - how many goals has he been involved in this year? Loads in my memory. The fact that he is also getting in positions to score, is a bonus.
Besides, I personally never worry about a player not scoring, as long as he is getting in the positions to score. Especially a young player who has made a step up. Eventually they come good. We got rid of Jamie White because he wasn't getting in positions to score. Would you rather that Taylor was not getting in those positions?
I think the plan is to play Taylor and Easter together, while the raw Blissett builds experience and fitness.
It depends how they play the game,if you play on the deck get plenty of crosses into your centre forward then he should score more,but if your just playing direct to him for flick ons like we did Saturday,then his strike partner is the main goal threat. Big Dev was never our top scorer but Penrice was and so was Boris from wide midfield
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 24, 2015 15:23:43 GMT
I don't think he is meant to be the leading goalscorer, a no.9. I think he's in the team as a no. 10, i.e. a creative attacker. He plays that role very well - how many goals has he been involved in this year? Loads in my memory. The fact that he is also getting in positions to score, is a bonus.
Besides, I personally never worry about a player not scoring, as long as he is getting in the positions to score. Especially a young player who has made a step up. Eventually they come good. We got rid of Jamie White because he wasn't getting in positions to score. Would you rather that Taylor was not getting in those positions?
I think the plan is to play Taylor and Easter together, while the raw Blissett builds experience and fitness.
It depends how they play the game,if you play on the deck get plenty of crosses into your centre forward then he should score more,but if your just playing direct to him for flick ons like we did Saturday,then his strike partner is the main goal threat. Big Dev was never our top scorer but Penrice was and so was Boris from wide midfield
True. For me, our better games have when we have gone with option (a).
Anyway, like I say, he's getting into positions to score, which I think is most of the battle, plus helping others to score.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 16:24:27 GMT
It depends how they play the game,if you play on the deck get plenty of crosses into your centre forward then he should score more,but if your just playing direct to him for flick ons like we did Saturday,then his strike partner is the main goal threat. Big Dev was never our top scorer but Penrice was and so was Boris from wide midfield
True. For me, our better games have when we have gone with option (a).
Anyway, like I say, he's getting into positions to score, which I think is most of the battle, plus helping others to score.
Option (a) for me aswell,wish we did it more often,as for Taylor,we have no one better that is available and he does contribute to the performance even when he isn't scoring
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Post by brizzle on Feb 24, 2015 16:32:25 GMT
He misses a hat-full. Maybe he could be tried in midfield alongside Mansell (when Sinclair not available). If he dropped back and let Monkey go up front that might work? Without labouring the point - I don't think we have had a regular striker in the last 30 years that has a lower conversion rate. And this is the Conference. I think that you may have a point there, because Taylor is too valuable an asset to the team to leave out completely, and with Jermaine Easter becoming available shortly it's clear that the team will need some further ''tweeking.''Mind you, the manager has proved in the not-too-distant past that he is an accomplished ''tweeker.''
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 25, 2015 9:39:32 GMT
True. For me, our better games have when we have gone with option (a).
Anyway, like I say, he's getting into positions to score, which I think is most of the battle, plus helping others to score.
Option (a) for me aswell,wish we did it more often,as for Taylor,we have no one better that is available and he does contribute to the performance even when he isn't scoring Another assist last night. I wonder how many that is? Oh, and a penalty that he won himself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 12:44:56 GMT
taylor does divide opinion dosnt he? one thing im certain of is he will be offered a contract for next season by the club whichever league were in,,i like him despite his missed chances
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Post by brizzle on Feb 25, 2015 13:08:52 GMT
taylor does divide opinion dosnt he? one thing im certain of is he will be offered a contract for next season by the club whichever league were in,,i like him despite his missed chances Yes he does, but to his credit he does seem to keep going and ignore his critics doesn't he? I also agree with you regarding a contract for next season though, because I'm certain that he will form an excellent partnership with Jermaine Easter, and one in which he will not be expected to score as many goals as some would hope for.
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Post by irishrover on Feb 25, 2015 18:22:00 GMT
taylor does divide opinion dosnt he? one thing im certain of is he will be offered a contract for next season by the club whichever league were in,,i like him despite his missed chances I think that's because a lot of the positives he brings to the team are not what people conventionally think that a striker should do. Ie. He seems very good at dropping back, finding space and linking play outside the box. This keeps a lot of our attacks going from what I see. But he doesn't score as many goals as people think and he doesn't have the kind of darting runs or hold up play that people associate with strikers. He's an unusual player really. He probably does need to add a few more goals to his game but I think people fixated on the Striker = score goals, Midfielders = create goals, defenders = stop goals. It's not as simple as that; it's about how the team functions and interacts as a unit not as a collection of individuals, and in our team Taylor seems like really quite an important player to me.
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