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Post by brianss on Jan 18, 2015 12:44:50 GMT
Hi
May I firstly apologise that I was not at the game yesterday and therefore was not directly on hand to help in regards to our supporters who with deep regret, were not able to get into the game at Woking.
I received several messages on twitter and other means around 3.20 and began to act immediately by contacting my fellow directors of the situation.
May I offer my thanks to them for immediately responding and were already responding, including the Chairman. Realising that there was space in certain parts of the ground, Nick put maximum pressure on their Chairman to open those areas and allow our supporters in. I only understand from hearsay, that their Chairman responded, spoke to the Police and this request was rejected, but I cannot confirm this.
May I make it clear that the safety and welfare of all concerned is paramount and if there is a dangerous situation then those responsible must be obeyed and remembering at the same time, that the staging of a home game is the responsibility of the home club and their decision is final.
However, in my own personal view, and again I was not there, is that it is safer to have people in a stadium rather than outside on the street - providing there are sufficient facilities to accommodate them. I am disappointed this did not happen.
I have spoken to the Chairman this morning as I promised I would.
Nick makes it absolutely clear that Woking were advised by BRFC that we were expecting in excess of 1,500 supporters to attend the game. It was Woking's decision therefore not to make the game all ticket and to charge on the gate.
Clearly, they felt they had sufficient room in a stadium, catering for over 6,000 to do this. Secondly, they no doubt appreciated that the Rovers allocation would have been greatly restricted, possibly to 600 on an all ticket game and this would have had an effect on matchday revenue. They must also have been aware from our other away games that Rovers away support is constantly in excess of 1,200 and this attendance yesterday was not uncommon.
So where do we go to from here?
1. Firstly, again may I offer my sincere apologies to those of you who travelled and could not get in. Thank you for making the effort and spending money to travel.
2. I have asked Nick if in future, particularly at small grounds like Dover, we recommend all-ticket to prevent this happening again, but again this is the choice of the home team.
3. That we do continue to emphasis to the club's we visit of our potential support and ensure sufficent space to cater for everyone- but this does go without saying, as the club does this already.
If you have any suggestions which may help avoid this in future then please do email me at br467@btinternet.com and I will pass these ideas on.
best wishes
Brian SS
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 18, 2015 12:59:47 GMT
I don't know the right and wrongs of it all, but fair play for coming on here Brian - got to feel for those outside yesterday
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 13:02:04 GMT
Hi May I firstly apologise that I was not at the game yesterday and therefore was not directly on hand to help in regards to our supporters who with deep regret, were not able to get into the game at Woking. I received several messages on twitter and other means around 3.20 and began to act immediately by contacting my fellow directors of the situation. May I offer my thanks to them for immediately responding and were already responding, including the Chairman. Realising that there was space in certain parts of the ground, Nick put maximum pressure on their Chairman to open those areas and allow our supporters in. I only understand from hearsay, that their Chairman responded, spoke to the Police and this request was rejected, but I cannot confirm this. May I make it clear that the safety and welfare of all concerned is paramount and if there is a dangerous situation then those responsible must be obeyed and remembering at the same time, that the staging of a home game is the responsibility of the home club and their decision is final. However, in my own personal view, and again I was not there, is that it is safer to have people in a stadium rather than outside on the street - providing there are sufficient facilities to accommodate them. I am disappointed this did not happen. I have spoken to the Chairman this morning as I promised I would. Nick makes it absolutely clear that Woking were advised by BRFC that we were expecting in excess of 1,500 supporters to attend the game. It was Woking's decision therefore not to make the game all ticket and to charge on the gate. Clearly, they felt they had sufficient room in a stadium, catering for over 6,000 to do this. Secondly, they no doubt appreciated that the Rovers allocation would have been greatly restricted, possibly to 600 on an all ticket game and this would have had an effect on matchday revenue. They must also have been aware from our other away games that Rovers away support is constantly in excess of 1,200 and this attendance yesterday was not uncommon. So where do we go to from here? 1. Firstly, again may I offer my sincere apologies to those of you who travelled and could not get in. Thank you for making the effort and spending money to travel. 2. I have asked Nick if in future, particularly at small grounds like Dover, we recommend all-ticket to prevent this happening again, but again this is the choice of the home team. 3. That we do continue to emphasis to the club's we visit of our potential support and ensure sufficent space to cater for everyone- but this does go without saying, as the club does this already. If you have any suggestions which may help avoid this in future then please do email me at br467@btinternet.com and I will pass these ideas on. best wishes Brian SS Interesting Strange that you should say all ticket for Dover when the ground guide suggests that their capacity is only a couple od hundred less than Woking. Rather undermines your response Brian. Asleep at the wheel, perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 13:10:52 GMT
ffs give the guy a break!Hounded for not coming on here,tries to give some answers to yesterday's situation and your on him like a dog with a bone,give it a bloody rest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 13:23:57 GMT
ffs give the guy a break!Hounded for not coming on here,tries to give some answers to yesterday's situation and your on him like a dog with a bone,give it a bloody rest. Not at all. He has no answers to yesterdays situation, but he can influence the future. I am, correctly I think, pointing out that if Dover is the bench mark, as he states, for an all ticket game then Woking should have been. That being the case most, if not all, the away remaining games should be. At the end of the day upto 300 were locked out due to poor planning by either Woking or BRFC, we can agree that, surely. Its hard to see Woking wanting to lose multiple £000's due to this. I was speaking to Nicky Bainger, their Commercial Manager (ex pro) who sold out the hospitality lunch etc. He had some interesting comments about leadership coming from the top and the effect of a lack of. Its not about Brian coming on here, its about managing the club. This was poorly managed, and he is an executive director.
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Post by ismellgas on Jan 18, 2015 13:25:24 GMT
Sorry isn't really good enough when you have been watching the club for over 30 years and drove over 2 hours to take your 12 year old son to his second away away game only to be left outside till half time not knowing what is going on,then we walked round to the home end and asked a police officer if there is any chance of me and my son coming in,he said no sorry the chairman has been down and has told us not to let anyone else in....my thoughts are he's made his money off the rovers fans that are in there already so why have the hassle of moving a few people about to cater for the poor buggers outside.hope it doesn't happen to your kids or grandchildren mr Woking chairman and I hope you miss out on the play offs now,you don't deserve decent crowds if can't organise anything
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Post by Wreckless on Jan 18, 2015 13:26:47 GMT
So - if I understand correctly -
The plan is that we will now recommend that roughly half of our away matches are all ticket - with consequent restrictions on the number of tickets available and imposing the requirement on supporters to plan and buy in advance. And - the Home Team don't have to listen to our recommendation anyway. And - everything else we're doing is wonderful - it goes without saying....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 13:29:16 GMT
So - if I understand correctly - The plan is that we will now recommend that roughly half of our away matches are all ticket - with consequent restrictions on the number of tickets available and imposing the requirement on supporters to plan and buy in advance. And - the Home Team don't have to listen to our recommendation anyway. And - everything else we're doing is wonderful - it goes without saying.... Perhaps, more accrately, there is no actual plan about anything.
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Post by ismellgas on Jan 18, 2015 13:50:52 GMT
Not your fault Brian and thanks for the apology,but when all the youngsters are supporting man city,man utd,Chelsea etc and you bring your son up to support your local team and this happens it's not good enough.they isn't enough incentives at our club for young fans like kids for free like other football clubs do,they are our future and will keep the club going in years to come
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2015 13:58:33 GMT
Not sure how Rover are taking the blame here?
1) It wasn't there decision not to make it all ticket
2) They didn't hopelessly under estimate the Rovers following
3) Rovers didn't decide to lock out 300 or so of their own fans when there was capacity to take them in the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 14:03:09 GMT
while youre about brian, is kev spencer still banned ?
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 18, 2015 14:05:08 GMT
There are two Supporters Director's aren't there, was the other one not there either ? Credit to Brian for at least trying to do something from a distance, although one assumes that wouldn't have been easy to have organised. Goodness knows what will happen if there is still something on our last game of the season at Dover, could Dover move it to a bigger ground to accommodate those wanting to attend e.g. Gillingham if available ?
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Post by crater on Jan 18, 2015 14:10:38 GMT
There are two Supporters Director's aren't there, was the other one not there either ? Credit to Brian for at least trying to do something from a distance, although one assumes that wouldn't have been easy to have organised. Goodness knows what will happen if there is still something on our last game of the season at Dover, could Dover move it to a bigger ground to accommodate those wanting to attend e.g. Gillingham if available ? Not a chance of the game being switched to a different ground. possible though that they could move their own fans from a part of the ground that is not usually for away fans though...Blackpool 1990 and all that
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Post by Peter Parker on Jan 18, 2015 14:26:51 GMT
Hi May I firstly apologise that I was not at the game yesterday and therefore was not directly on hand to help in regards to our supporters who with deep regret, were not able to get into the game at Woking. I received several messages on twitter and other means around 3.20 and began to act immediately by contacting my fellow directors of the situation. May I offer my thanks to them for immediately responding and were already responding, including the Chairman. Realising that there was space in certain parts of the ground, Nick put maximum pressure on their Chairman to open those areas and allow our supporters in. I only understand from hearsay, that their Chairman responded, spoke to the Police and this request was rejected, but I cannot confirm this. May I make it clear that the safety and welfare of all concerned is paramount and if there is a dangerous situation then those responsible must be obeyed and remembering at the same time, that the staging of a home game is the responsibility of the home club and their decision is final. However, in my own personal view, and again I was not there, is that it is safer to have people in a stadium rather than outside on the street - providing there are sufficient facilities to accommodate them. I am disappointed this did not happen. I have spoken to the Chairman this morning as I promised I would. Nick makes it absolutely clear that Woking were advised by BRFC that we were expecting in excess of 1,500 supporters to attend the game. It was Woking's decision therefore not to make the game all ticket and to charge on the gate. Clearly, they felt they had sufficient room in a stadium, catering for over 6,000 to do this. Secondly, they no doubt appreciated that the Rovers allocation would have been greatly restricted, possibly to 600 on an all ticket game and this would have had an effect on matchday revenue. They must also have been aware from our other away games that Rovers away support is constantly in excess of 1,200 and this attendance yesterday was not uncommon. So where do we go to from here? 1. Firstly, again may I offer my sincere apologies to those of you who travelled and could not get in. Thank you for making the effort and spending money to travel. 2. I have asked Nick if in future, particularly at small grounds like Dover, we recommend all-ticket to prevent this happening again, but again this is the choice of the home team. 3. That we do continue to emphasis to the club's we visit of our potential support and ensure sufficent space to cater for everyone- but this does go without saying, as the club does this already. If you have any suggestions which may help avoid this in future then please do email me at br467@btinternet.com and I will pass these ideas on. best wishes Brian SS If 1800 can pay on the gate how does all ticket mean only 600? Thanks for the info btw
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Post by laughinggas on Jan 18, 2015 14:34:22 GMT
He finished his post asking if anyone has any other ideas....
Not seen many on this thread, but can see the snipers.
As stated above can only look at future games....
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 18, 2015 14:39:07 GMT
The only way to avoid such a situation in the future is by making it all ticket, it does mean it will reduce the away following but that's better than fans travelling long distances and not being able to get in, not all of us live in or near to Bristol.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jan 18, 2015 14:42:27 GMT
The only way to avoid such a situation in the future is by making it all ticket, it does mean it will reduce the away following but that's better than fans travelling long distances and not being able to get in, not all of us live in or near to Bristol. To be honest will it make much difference to the crowd if we are challenging. All ticket will sell out i would think
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 18, 2015 14:46:56 GMT
The only way to avoid such a situation in the future is by making it all ticket, it does mean it will reduce the away following but that's better than fans travelling long distances and not being able to get in, not all of us live in or near to Bristol. To be honest will it make much difference to the crowd if we are challenging. All ticket will sell out i would think Yes but it does mean fans won't travel unnecessarily (well most won't) if they know it's all ticket
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 14:57:22 GMT
I don't understand how all ticket would have meant only 600 tickets available.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2015 15:00:50 GMT
I have spoken to the Chairman this morning as I promised I would. Nick makes it absolutely clear that Woking were advised by BRFC that we were expecting in excess of 1,500 supporters to attend the game. It was Woking's decision therefore not to make the game all ticket and to charge on the gate. This completely contradicts what a Woking official said when interviewed by Radio Bristol after the game.
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