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Post by LJG on Dec 5, 2014 7:46:07 GMT
Why should bloody students get a discount anyway ? Err ... because they can't afford twenty quid every fortnight so the club have a choice: receive twelve quid every fortnight or receive nothing every fortnight. Simple economics really. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Dec 5, 2014 10:18:42 GMT
What about someone who doesn't go to Uni, but leaves school and doesn't earn a good wage? Why should a student get a discount above someone like that? I just don't see why students think they are 'entitled' to a discount eveywhere they go. It was their decision to go to Uni.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Dec 5, 2014 10:27:28 GMT
Ordered an extra copy of Away the Gas and one of the 1883 polo shirts late last week (online) and they arrived on my doorstep this morning in Melbourne, Australia. Great service to get it to me that quickly and I only paid twelve quid postage which I thought was pretty reasonable. The club shop often gets bad reviews but I say great fast service and not trying to rip me off for postage. Also wanted to point out that the polo shirt is good quality and way better than the pictures on the forum and shop. I'm very pleased with it. Would still prefer no pocket and stripes but you can't please everyone all of the time. Logo looks great but am glad I went a size up though! The book is also great quality and I've already read a few of the stories so nice work Martin on getting it up and running. I'm sure it was bloody hard work but the result is excellent. That concludes today's round of praise. Carry on. If your referring to speed of delivery then surely that is down to the courier for getting it there, the dozen or so people who would have been involved in getting it to your door. The club shop got an online order, put it in a box and waited for courier to collect! Jesus you're a miserable twat. Is it too much to ask that we be allowed to give a small amount of praise when someone related to the club does a job well - no matter how small? I order plenty of stuff online from the UK and most of it takes a lot longer than that to arrive. It was well packaged and must have been turned around pronto in the shop (like the same day) before they sent it to get here in that kind of timescale. Added to which the cost of post and packaging was very reasonable - the club could have stung me on postage for their own gain but clearly didn't. If it makes you happy then well done to the courier, top f******g job mate... if you find the couriers online forum then let me know so I can pass the praise on to them as well. Now go and find someone else to moan at. |
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Peter Beadle
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Post by LJG on Dec 5, 2014 10:54:01 GMT
What about someone who doesn't go to Uni, but leaves school and doesn't earn a good wage? Why should a student get a discount above someone like that? I just don't see why students think they are 'entitled' to a discount eveywhere they go. It was their decision to go to Uni. Where are you quoting the word 'entitled' from? The point is that the club is a commercial enterprise so the aim is to bring in as much revenue as possible. That being the case the club is trying to attract those with disposable income: either those with earnings enough that they can afford the luxury to go at the ticket price or those they know have a certain amount of limited disposable income - students, under 16s and over 65s. In order to attract those they don't price them out of the market by charging them full rate but give them an appropriate discount. Because as I said above the club either chooses to have twelve quid or nothing in most cases so they'd rather have the twelve quid. If the club had a really acute social conscience they could charge on a sliding scale related to earnings but ... hey ... they're a business not the DWP. It would be virtually impossible to administer and there would be too great a temptation on the part of some to get the low-earner discounted rate when they aren't eligible meaning more lost revenue than it's worth for the club. Economics. |
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Post by irishrover on Dec 5, 2014 14:35:07 GMT
What about someone who doesn't go to Uni, but leaves school and doesn't earn a good wage? Why should a student get a discount above someone like that? I just don't see why students think they are 'entitled' to a discount eveywhere they go. It was their decision to go to Uni. It's got nothing to do with entitlement. Companies don't give money off students for altruistic reasons - they give them money off because they have spare time and spend most of their disposable income. So they have time, a desire to spend but not necessarily the money to do so. They are also young, likely to have more money to spend than most in the future and therefore worth investing in It's not a charity case. With that regard Rovers are dumb if they are only accepting NUS Extra cards - many students don't bother with them as they are of questionable value and also part of the NUS Extra deal is done between companies and the NUS so it's not clever of Rovers to do that because they're not benefiting anything from the arrangement. It is daft given where Rovers are based - right in the heart of student land if we don't do everything we can to tap into that market. They should make the club as convenient and friendly as possible - these are a large proportion of the people who maybe staying in Bristol and who we may need to grow the fanbase if we move into the UWE. It's also dodgy if we aren't specific about it - I know a business that got fined for saying they accepted Valid Student NUS cards when all they accepted was NUS Extra cards; it is false advertising. However, if UWE cards don't have the date of study on them (most standard University ID cards do now) then that's a whole different business because obviously the club can't offer a discount to anyone who happens to be carrying a UWE card if you can't verify whether it's valid; if that's true UWE Students Union should be making a fuss about it because that's poor and will cost them in other places as well. |
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Post by strung out on Dec 5, 2014 14:40:24 GMT
To confirm, UWE ID cards only have the date of issue on them, no date of expiry.
When I had this problem while studying for my masters a couple of years ago, the club shop said that as long as it has an expiry date on it, then they were happy to take anything. This seems to be a matter of consistency in signage and staff in shops than anything untoward. For what it's worth, I bought an NUS card for £12 and saved far more than that over the course of the season.
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Post by irishrover on Dec 5, 2014 14:49:34 GMT
To confirm, UWE ID cards only have the date of issue on them, no date of expiry. When I had this problem while studying for my masters a couple of years ago, the club shop said that as long as it has an expiry date on it, then they were happy to take anything. This seems to be a matter of consistency in signage and staff in shops than anything untoward. For what it's worth, I bought an NUS card for £12 and saved far more than that over the course of the season. Ah - well in that case you can't put any blame on the club because obviously they need to be able to see an expiry date. That's UWE's fault and I'd say that's pretty crap of them really - there's no good reason for not putting the expiry date on the card that I can see. |
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Post by LJG on Dec 5, 2014 14:54:28 GMT
But the club have a problem with Non-UWE college cards that identify the holder as a full time student, with a photo, with an expiry date - not just UWE cards.
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Post by irishrover on Dec 5, 2014 14:59:59 GMT
But the club have a problem with Non-UWE college cards that identify the holder as a full time student, with a photo, with an expiry date - not just UWE cards. Is that only as of this season? I've never had a problem with mine in the last few years. Again, if we are not advertising that it is an NUS Extra discount only then we could actually get in a lot of trouble for that. |
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Post by strung out on Dec 5, 2014 15:18:07 GMT
To confirm, UWE ID cards only have the date of issue on them, no date of expiry. When I had this problem while studying for my masters a couple of years ago, the club shop said that as long as it has an expiry date on it, then they were happy to take anything. This seems to be a matter of consistency in signage and staff in shops than anything untoward. For what it's worth, I bought an NUS card for £12 and saved far more than that over the course of the season. Ah - well in that case you can't put any blame on the club because obviously they need to be able to see an expiry date. That's UWE's fault and I'd say that's pretty crap of them really - there's no good reason for not putting the expiry date on the card that I can see. The UWE ID card isn't intended to actually confirm anyone's status as a student though - it just gives you access to certain buildings like the library etc and proves you are who you say you are for finance and at exam periods etc. After all, somebody could leave their course before finishing their degree and they wouldn't be a student but they'd still have a student ID card. It seems to be an accepted standard for most student discounts to have an NUS card, as so many of the discounts are negotiated by the NUS. Some places will be more lax than others, but the safe option is just to get an NUS card because it guarantees you a discount anywhere that offers it. It's only a few pounds and you save far more than that over the course of the 12 months. |
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Post by LJG on Dec 5, 2014 15:54:33 GMT
But the club have a problem with Non-UWE college cards that identify the holder as a full time student, with a photo, with an expiry date - not just UWE cards. Is that only as of this season? I've never had a problem with mine in the last few years. Again, if we are not advertising that it is an NUS Extra discount only then we could actually get in a lot of trouble for that. Yes - the same card was valid to witness every minute of the utter sh1te we were subjected to last season. As of this season though that very card - still valid - is only good enough to allow the holder to pay £20 to watch Rovers play in the Danny Dog-Sh1t Bath City Hoopla Stakes and get excited about a bunch of sub-standards that work hard. |
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Post by LJG on Dec 5, 2014 15:55:48 GMT
Ah - well in that case you can't put any blame on the club because obviously they need to be able to see an expiry date. That's UWE's fault and I'd say that's pretty crap of them really - there's no good reason for not putting the expiry date on the card that I can see. The UWE ID card isn't intended to actually confirm anyone's status as a student though - it just gives you access to certain buildings like the library etc and proves you are who you say you are for finance and at exam periods etc. After all, somebody could leave their course before finishing their degree and they wouldn't be a student but they'd still have a student ID card. It seems to be an accepted standard for most student discounts to have an NUS card, as so many of the discounts are negotiated by the NUS. Some places will be more lax than others, but the safe option is just to get an NUS card because it guarantees you a discount anywhere that offers it. It's only a few pounds and you save far more than that over the course of the 12 months. None of this changes the fact that the club have a sign saying they accept valid "College or University ID" when, patently, they do not. |
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Post by irishrover on Dec 5, 2014 16:07:06 GMT
Is that only as of this season? I've never had a problem with mine in the last few years. Again, if we are not advertising that it is an NUS Extra discount only then we could actually get in a lot of trouble for that. Yes - the same card was valid to witness every minute of the utter sh1te we were subjected to last season. As of this season though that very card - still valid - is only good enough to allow the holder to pay £20 to watch Rovers play in the Danny Dog-Sh1t Bath City Hoopla Stakes and get excited about a bunch of sub-standards that work hard. Well that's ridiculous and I know from experience it will put people off. On a Saturday I look at the football matches that are going on in the Manchester area and if one of them offers a cheap student deal I go, if they don't I don't. I certainly wouldn't pay an extra £12 to get access to discounts to clubs I didn't support and honestly, I had the NUS extra card once and it hardly saved me anything anywhere I actually wanted to go. It's not about giving Student Rovers fans money off (I'll pay anyway) it's about growing the fanbase and, yes by the sound of it we could well be accused of false advertising there. |
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Dec 5, 2014 17:49:55 GMT
Ah - well in that case you can't put any blame on the club because obviously they need to be able to see an expiry date. That's UWE's fault and I'd say that's pretty crap of them really - there's no good reason for not putting the expiry date on the card that I can see. The UWE ID card isn't intended to actually confirm anyone's status as a student though - it just gives you access to certain buildings like the library etc and proves you are who you say you are for finance and at exam periods etc. After all, somebody could leave their course before finishing their degree and they wouldn't be a student but they'd still have a student ID card. It seems to be an accepted standard for most student discounts to have an NUS card, as so many of the discounts are negotiated by the NUS. Some places will be more lax than others, but the safe option is just to get an NUS card because it guarantees you a discount anywhere that offers it. It's only a few pounds and you save far more than that over the course of the 12 months. Last year UWE's SU did their own discount card with an expiry date for £4. I'd happily buy that if they still did it but NUS made them stop doing them, because too many people were choosing not to buy their card, so I also have an issue with giving money to NUS. I'd say at least half of the second years I know who had one never bothered to renew their NUS cards, if the mythical UWE Stadium ever did happen that's a large percentage of potential supporters they could refuse tickets to. If I can't use my UWE card anywhere on the high street I show the UniDays app on my phone, which needs student status to be confirmed when you install it, maybe Rovers should look into something like this. I'm not too fussed, as long as I can get up to the supporters club shop, I just think it's barmy that I had to go out of my way to get a ticket to watch Rovers play Welling United in a half full Mem, could have understood a bit more if it was a respectable fixture! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 21:22:50 GMT
If your referring to speed of delivery then surely that is down to the courier for getting it there, the dozen or so people who would have been involved in getting it to your door. The club shop got an online order, put it in a box and waited for courier to collect! Jesus you're a miserable twat. Is it too much to ask that we be allowed to give a small amount of praise when someone related to the club does a job well - no matter how small? I order plenty of stuff online from the UK and most of it takes a lot longer than that to arrive. It was well packaged and must have been turned around pronto in the shop (like the same day) before they sent it to get here in that kind of timescale. Added to which the cost of post and packaging was very reasonable - the club could have stung me on postage for their own gain but clearly didn't. If it makes you happy then well done to the courier, top f******g job mate... if you find the couriers online forum then let me know so I can pass the praise on to them as well. Now go and find someone else to moan at. Hey chill out Bruce, was only pointing out that many people make a good news story a success, no need for the personal abuse is there. Anyway I'm off to the local dairy farm to personally congratulate the cows for getting the milk to the doorstep so quickly this morning. |
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Post by chelt_gas on Dec 6, 2014 2:39:25 GMT
The added cost and value in having to go anywhere but the turnstiles/ground ticket office to claim vouchers makes the whole incentive dis incentivising! I think you have to give the club chance to rectify and amend any inconsistencies and I'm sure they would when the decision maker looks at the case. However in today's era a post spoon becomes a news feed and the subject matter grows arms and length.
BSS and master should easily sort this.
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Post by Somerset Blue on Dec 7, 2014 14:06:22 GMT
Typical students ... always looking for freebies and cheap giveaways.
More study, less beer ,pot noodle and chasing girls and perhaps you wouldn't mind paying that little extra !!
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Post by 4figga on Dec 7, 2014 14:13:58 GMT
Just registered to say I've used my University of Bristol student ID 4 times this season at the mem shop for tickets this season and not had a problem getting the reduced rate.
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Post by brizzle on Dec 7, 2014 17:05:03 GMT
Just registered to say I've used my University of Bristol student ID 4 times this season at the mem shop for tickets this season and not had a problem getting the reduced rate.  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 9, 2014 0:50:23 GMT
If only they understood the concept of University ID Cards. I have to pay on the day (where there is a sign saying university cards are accepted) or go to the Supporters Shop in Kingswood to get a ticket because the women in the club shop do not accept valid UWE cards. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a stall at the UWE Freshers' Fair if you ask me. I'd love to know their reasons for refusing gasheadnaboo, and I'm quite certain that you've asked. After all it's quite illogical that the ID Card is acceptable in one shop, but not the other. But as I often say, where BRFC is concerned you never know. They are a complete and utter law unto themselves, and always have been. Confident incompetents sums them up perfectly, and not just in the area that you mention either. What do you expect with Swampy Seaton working there  |
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