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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 2, 2014 16:08:21 GMT
He would have been the idle candidate last season to keep us up, for all the "bed" stories about him so far he seems to be doing a very good job at Barnet.
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Dec 2, 2014 16:12:33 GMT
He would have been the idle candidate last season to keep us up, for all the "bed" stories about him so far he seems to be doing a very good job at Barnet. Agreed he may well have kept us up last season but then.......? Sounds a bit like Ian Atkins - great to keep you up or even get promoted then it all goes wrong. On balance, I'd prefer to stick with DC! |
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Post by Curly Wurly on Dec 2, 2014 16:13:23 GMT
Higgs won't want a straight shooter like Allen challenging him. Higgs won't be here much longer You should know as his love child  Legal disclaimer: All rumours, assertions, statements, etc. made by me on this forum are absolute bollocks, unless later proven to be true in a court of law. |
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Post by brizzle on Dec 2, 2014 16:24:08 GMT
Your reason for this comment? Humour or rumour? Both ! Quite incorrigible.  |
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Post by Edward Teach on Dec 4, 2014 17:36:42 GMT
He would have been the idle candidate last season to keep us up, for all the "bed" stories about him so far he seems to be doing a very good job at Barnet. The idle candidate? Probably why the lazy bugger never got the job. |
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Post by lympstonegas on Dec 6, 2014 10:27:10 GMT
He would have been the idle candidate last season to keep us up, for all the "bed" stories about him so far he seems to be doing a very good job at Barnet. The idle candidate? Probably why the lazy bugger never got the job. Always perceived him as very much an old fashioned tub thumping swearing plate smashing ghat gets initial success but it's never maintained as players wise up to him- yep did well at Gillingham as did Di Canio until he got found out- in my mind he's like marmite and I think the majority of fans don't or won't like him soon after he'd got appointed if he ever did as cannot seeing him maintaining any long term success. Any next manager would then have to sort out his mess leaving us struggling for longer in transition. I believe if enough teams put pressure on Barnet now alongside next seasons ground uncertainty he will crack and they will struggle - lets hope that it's the Rovers that surface at the top when it matters. Here's hoping - my prediction comes true and he never manages Rovers !! |
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 6, 2014 10:50:04 GMT
The idle candidate? Probably why the lazy bugger never got the job. Always perceived him as very much an old fashioned tub thumping swearing plate smashing ghat gets initial success but it's never maintained as players wise up to him- yep did well at Gillingham as did Di Canio until he got found out- in my mind he's like marmite and I think the majority of fans don't or won't like him soon after he'd got appointed if he ever did as cannot seeing him maintaining any long term success. Any next manager would then have to sort out his mess leaving us struggling for longer in transition. I believe if enough teams put pressure on Barnet now alongside next seasons ground uncertainty he will crack and they will struggle - lets hope that it's the Rovers that surface at the top when it matters. Here's hoping - my prediction comes true and he never manages Rovers !! pretty much agree with most of that, he is seemingly a good motivator at first [Atkins!!] and gets clubs into a position to get promotion,but cant sustain that and go on one more level, a bit like the fact hunt at Yeovil does not have the ability to sustain the team to stay at a higher level, i'm of the belief that Rovers are sitting pretty to make a strong claim for the ultimate position in this division, and will get it in May...... denying the Wembley day trippers their chance to spend £150:00 or more on a day out!!  |
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Post by brizzle on Dec 6, 2014 11:20:08 GMT
Always perceived him as very much an old fashioned tub thumping swearing plate smashing ghat gets initial success but it's never maintained as players wise up to him- yep did well at Gillingham as did Di Canio until he got found out- in my mind he's like marmite and I think the majority of fans don't or won't like him soon after he'd got appointed if he ever did as cannot seeing him maintaining any long term success. Any next manager would then have to sort out his mess leaving us struggling for longer in transition. I believe if enough teams put pressure on Barnet now alongside next seasons ground uncertainty he will crack and they will struggle - lets hope that it's the Rovers that surface at the top when it matters. Here's hoping - my prediction comes true and he never manages Rovers !! pretty much agree with most of that, he is seemingly a good motivator at first [Atkins!!] and gets clubs into a position to get promotion,but cant sustain that and go on one more level, a bit like the fact hunt at Yeovil does not have the ability to sustain the team to stay at a higher level, i'm of the belief that Rovers are sitting pretty to make a strong claim for the ultimate position in this division, and will get it in May...... denying the Wembley day trippers their chance to spend £150:00 or more on a day out!! I'll drink to that.  |
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Post by The Concept on Dec 6, 2014 14:09:54 GMT
He would have been the idle candidate last season to keep us up, for all the "bed" stories about him so far he seems to be doing a very good job at Barnet. The idle candidate? Probably why the lazy bugger never got the job. Yes, I was thinking that. We had enough accusations of idle players last year, so the last thing we need is an idle manager. |
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Post by GasPanic! on Dec 7, 2014 8:29:24 GMT
Allen is a funny one. He's said this before and it's a bit over the top. And 7,500 is obviously wrong. fair play to him for the positive stuff but still hard not to remember him for Reading in 2000, when he helped ruin our entire history. How did he ruin our history? |
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 8, 2014 1:21:15 GMT
Allen is a funny one. He's said this before and it's a bit over the top. And 7,500 is obviously wrong. fair play to him for the positive stuff but still hard not to remember him for Reading in 2000, when he helped ruin our entire history. How did he ruin our history? Wednesday 22nd March 2000. Buy the book to find out more  |
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Post by irishrover on Dec 8, 2014 11:19:32 GMT
How did he ruin our history? Wednesday 22nd March 2000. Buy the book to find out more I assume you mean the incident at Reading in which Ollie was sent to the stands and it all went downhill after that. But I read that now as Martin Allen being a savvy guy who was playing on Ollie's reputation for being emotionally combustible by winding him up and it worked far too easily. That's why it's indicative to me - I think it showed that we had a manager who was a little too invested, a bit inexperienced and who had anger issues (which he subsequently admitted and did something about I believe). That must have transferred to our players - I do firmly believe that Holloway completely lost the plot over those last 2 months of that season and it was a major contribution to our epic collapse. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 8, 2014 12:01:05 GMT
Wednesday 22nd March 2000. Buy the book to find out more I assume you mean the incident at Reading in which Ollie was sent to the stands and it all went downhill after that. But I read that now as Martin Allen being a savvy guy who was playing on Ollie's reputation for being emotionally combustible by winding him up and it worked far too easily. That's why it's indicative to me - I think it showed that we had a manager who was a little too invested, a bit inexperienced and who had anger issues (which he subsequently admitted and did something about I believe). That must have transferred to our players - I do firmly believe that Holloway completely lost the plot over those last 2 months of that season and it was a major contribution to our epic collapse. Probably a lot of truth in what you have just written. I missed quite a bit of the Ollie years and sadly I remember the implosion and the relegation the year after more than the good times. |
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Post by brizzle on Dec 8, 2014 12:57:16 GMT
Wednesday 22nd March 2000. Buy the book to find out more I assume you mean the incident at Reading in which Ollie was sent to the stands and it all went downhill after that. But I read that now as Martin Allen being a savvy guy who was playing on Ollie's reputation for being emotionally combustible by winding him up and it worked far too easily. That's why it's indicative to me - I think it showed that we had a manager who was a little too invested, a bit inexperienced and who had anger issues (which he subsequently admitted and did something about I believe). That must have transferred to our players - I do firmly believe that Holloway completely lost the plot over those last 2 months of that season and it was a major contribution to our epic collapse.Steady on there irish, you're clearly not singing from the Rosetinters Hymn Sheet are you? Hard and very pointed questions may well be asked and investigations will definitely be convened, and then we will probably descend to the personal abuse for anyone holding an alternative point of view on the subject. So be warned, because it won't be a pleasant experience. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 14:31:52 GMT
That was only a minor part of the implosion,the major factor was Cyril Regis
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Post by Curly Wurly on Dec 8, 2014 15:31:35 GMT
That was only a minor part of the implosion,the major factor was Cyril Regis There's a gap in my knowledge of Rovers history on this Padstow. I know Cyril Regis was Jason Roberts uncle and agent, but what was his role in Rovers eventual failure in the 1999/2000 season? I know he helped to broker the deal to send Roberts to West Brom for £2m at the end of the season and there was a bit of controversy about the approach from Tony Pulis at Portsmouth, but could you explain why Regis was the major factor in the implosion please Padstow (without saying anything libelous!). I'd read in Ollie's book about Peter Beadle coming to Hambrook and announcing how much he was earning at City, which turned the heads of Cureton & Roberts. I also remember going up to the Preston North End game just after xmas 1999 and thinking something wasn't right, but looking back at the records, we were still top in March 2000, before slumping out of the play-off positions on the final day at relegated Cardiff. |
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Post by brizzle on Dec 8, 2014 16:24:43 GMT
That was only a minor part of the implosion,the major factor was Cyril RegisOh yes, good old Uncle Cyril. We've a lot to thank him for, but I doubt it will be in Our Ollie's book. |
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Post by Curly Wurly on Dec 9, 2014 0:01:38 GMT
That was only a minor part of the implosion,the major factor was Cyril RegisOh yes, good old Uncle Cyril. We've a lot to thank him for, but I doubt it will be in Our Ollie's book. So it is only me that doesn't know what happened! Could anyone enlighten me..............Please? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 9:14:11 GMT
Oh yes, good old Uncle Cyril. We've a lot to thank him for, but I doubt it will be in Our Ollie's book. So it is only me that doesn't know what happened! Could anyone enlighten me..............Please? I think the gist was always that he unsettled Jason by working on a transfer to WBA during the season, which then unsettled Jamie and created ripples through the squad. I don't know details. I try not to think too much about the spring of 2000 tbh |
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