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Post by brovers90 on Nov 12, 2014 17:09:25 GMT
Completely agree with the rest of your post though. The "roughly" was a tongue in cheek comment, £30m being the sales price in the contract
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 12, 2014 17:09:54 GMT
Lets celebrate today based on the facts rather than conjecture and people plucking compensation amounts out of thin air. I'm sure there are a few more hurdles to cross but this is a huge one that has taken the best part of a year to get over. Carstairs we can be sure will appeal the decision if he can but it is a monumental task to reverse a 7-2 planning permission vote, these guys do not like to admit they were wrong by reversing an approval vote. We have a legally enforceable contract granting us a put option on the land for £30m subject to onerous store conditions. All of these conditions have now been met or waived and we are now well within our rights to enforce the contract. Our contract with Sainsburys is for the sale of the land with planning permission, not for them to actually build it. They can build a store, not build a store or decide to dig a ruddy deep hole on the site and bury a timecapsule filled with taste the difference pasties for all we care. There is strong political support for our plans now and if Sainsburys decide they want to change their minds on a SIGNED legal contract then I'm sure NH and our legal team will be seeking damages of roughly £30m being the amount that of damages that we can clearly prove plus the increase in our costs. UTG Fair and balanced comment. Well said.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 12, 2014 17:15:32 GMT
Watola just been on Radio Bristol:-
We will make contact with Sainburys in the next 48 hours and set out what we now expect of them. Hopefully that will meet with a positive response and we will be able to move the project forwards.
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Nov 12, 2014 17:16:52 GMT
wish we'd stop referring to Sainsbury's as our partners
Its a bit like calling a chicken a partner in a poultry abbatoir
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 12, 2014 17:18:29 GMT
Watola just been on Radio Bristol:- We will make contact with Sainburys in the next 48 hours and set out what we now expect of them. Hopefully that will meet with a positive response and we will be able to move the project forwards.
Well that sounds a bit more of a clear and grounded response then in previous times
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 12, 2014 17:19:28 GMT
Excellent news - at the very least this means we have whacked the ball very firmly into Sainsbury's court. Now we should get to see very soon what hand it is they are playing and whether the confidence of the optimists on here has been well placed. Why anyone connected to the club should see the announcement of what has been acknowledged as universal good news (in the sense that whatever happens from here the club is clearly in a better position regarding the whole UWE business than at midday today) to try and further alienate gasheads is completely and utterly beyond me. A little confused with this Irish. Who has said anything to further alienate or are we referring to a certain unarmed poster ? Thanks
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Post by lulworthgas on Nov 12, 2014 17:20:01 GMT
Watola just been on Radio Bristol:- We will make contact with Sainburys in the next 48 hours and set out what we now expect of them. Hopefully that will meet with a positive response and we will be able to move the project forwards. I'd be on the phone now!
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 12, 2014 17:36:54 GMT
wish we'd stop referring to Sainsbury's as our partners Its a bit like calling a chicken a partner in a poultry abbatoir You know the language used is deliberate don't you? A bit like Stalin and Churchill being partners, end justifying the means and all that.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 12, 2014 17:45:13 GMT
Who let Toni on the official twitter, is this wise? . . . and here he is again, and answering some pertinent questions too.
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Post by ellington on Nov 12, 2014 17:46:50 GMT
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 12, 2014 17:47:07 GMT
Who let Toni on the official twitter, is this wise? . . . and here he is again, and answering some pertinent questions too. That gave me a laugh before I watch it. Terry Tibbs, about the stadium, talk to me ?
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Post by gas2 on Nov 12, 2014 17:50:29 GMT
I thought we never had any strikers
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 12, 2014 17:53:50 GMT
Out of interest is anyone able to paste a link to a statement from Sainsburys saying they have/had no intention of buying the Mem following the change in shopping habits of the general public with large stores allegedly no longer viable. Seems to have been lots of assumptions based on hearsay on forums and social media assuming that Sainsburys have every intention of trying to wriggle out of purchasing the Mem but cant recall reading any hint of this from Sainsburys themselves... The first I saw of it was in the Claim Form that was published in the Post here: www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-sue-Sainsbury-s-writ/story-22820147-detail/story.htmlIf I recall this was reported following conversations between Nick Higgs and Tony Watola and the Sainsbury's Regional Development Manager Ben Littman and forms the basis of the activity around onerous conditions. etc. which has resulted in the process seen through today. As TW clarified in his interview, this formed the basis of a "threat" from Rovers to sue Sainsbury's if they didn't stop dragging their feet.
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Post by ellington on Nov 12, 2014 17:57:39 GMT
Hmmmmm, listening to that interview and reading between the lines it still sounds as though everything depends on sainsburys willingness. Just bit into my doughnut and someone's nicked the jam ;-(
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 17:59:27 GMT
Personally I'm totally disillusioned with the stadium, the directors only care about lining their own pockets.IF it gets built, it'll be the the same sh1t excuses from Higgs about tight budgets and needing more support, Higgs is only good for his aggressive business opportunism I.e. Bristol rugby, sainsburys and us.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 12, 2014 18:02:32 GMT
Hmmmmm, listening to that interview and reading between the lines it still sounds as though everything depends on sainsburys willingness. Just bit into my doughnut and someone's nicked the jam ;-( Of course it does depend on Sainsbury's willingness to honour their contract with Rovers, but Rovers are being consistent. The major onerous planning condition that could have prevented completion of the contract has just been removed. To what extent the i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed could still scupper the deal remains to be seen.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 12, 2014 18:03:31 GMT
Personally I'm totally disillusioned with the stadium, the directors only care about lining their own pockets.IF it gets built, it'll be the the same sh1t excuses from Higgs about tight budgets and needing more support, Higgs is only good for his aggressive business opportunism I.e. Bristol rugby, sainsburys and us. That's not a view I share.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 12, 2014 18:03:44 GMT
That's the closest to upbeat that I've seen in the OS but I only ever now go there when someone links me up
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Post by toteend on Nov 12, 2014 18:08:19 GMT
For those who perceive that Sainsburys offering us compensation of any amount is great, thank god you are not acting on behalf of the club.
Why would they offer anything? If they think the contract has failed for any reason, they will pay nowt. If they offer anything, that is tantamount to admitting they have breached the terms of the contract, so we then go for full payment.
More to the point, who will ever trust Sainsburys in any future dealings with anyone if they think they can just walk away from any contract they don't like. Remember the council have also laid out a hell if a lot of money on issues relating to the development of the Mem site.
What does strike me as odd though, is that there were no club directors at the meeting today. Toni the Till was there but is not a director, and basically added nothing to the debate
Eddie Ware was outside the council house before the meeting with TW, but did not come in to the meeting. What's all that about?
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Post by ellington on Nov 12, 2014 18:09:17 GMT
" Terry Tibbs " lol , just spat me Stella out
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