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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 5, 2014 9:42:02 GMT
I know of a strange person who refuses to attend games at the Mem because someone was banned because of things they said. The banned person didn't do anything wrong, but some people didn't like what he was saying, so he was banned. Outrage and feathers spat were the norm. Standards and ethics eh! Now that same strange person supports the banning of someone, not because they had done anything wrong, but because they don't like what the banned person said.
Can anyone identify the 'strange person'?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 9:50:42 GMT
Kevin Street?
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Post by LJG on Nov 5, 2014 10:05:39 GMT
What I wouldn't give to have Jock at the back, Big Dev up front and Ollie in the middle this season. Those were the days hey?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 10:08:45 GMT
So the man who cried censorship now approves of a fellow poster suffering a total ban and therefore denied the opportunity to defend himself.Funny how ones train of thought changes when the boots on the other foot isn't it. To the best of my knowledge I have never had a post censored on this forum? I may have defended others if that's what you refer to, and this case I would not censor Shane. He makes a brilliant effort at ridiculing his viewpoint, so for those of us with opposing views its good sport. But I understand the mods position and within the context of their rules, they are right. I trust that answers your query. Gaschat forum where you posted a thread titled 'Censorship'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 10:08:57 GMT
I know of a strange person who refuses to attend games at the Mem because someone was banned because of things they said. The banned person didn't do anything wrong, but some people didn't like what he was saying, so he was banned. Outrage and feathers spat were the norm. Standards and ethics eh! Now that same strange person supports the banning of someone, not because they had done anything wrong, but because they don't like what the banned person said. Can anyone identify the 'strange person'? Just on the off chance that this aimed at me (apologies if not), perhaps I have not articulated my point well enough, which is: We all signed up to the rules under which this forum operates, under those rules the mods were right to ban him. On a personal level I think its a bit sad that the mods of a small and very specific forum should fear the law because of publication of the views of others, within the context of Shanes viewpoints (and Wes for that matter) Personally, on top of my belief in free speech, having a viewpoint that is diametrically the opposite of Shanes I would almost encourage him to continue as he so wonderfully exposes the utter ignorance that underpins his viewpoint far better than I ever could. Your attempt to draw a parrallel with Kevins banning from a sporting event due to comments that were never in danger of breaching any law is weak to the point of incredulity. But there is nothing much new there is there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 10:14:57 GMT
To the best of my knowledge I have never had a post censored on this forum? I may have defended others if that's what you refer to, and this case I would not censor Shane. He makes a brilliant effort at ridiculing his viewpoint, so for those of us with opposing views its good sport. But I understand the mods position and within the context of their rules, they are right. I trust that answers your query. Gaschat forum where you posted a thread titled 'Censorship'. Oh ok, yes thats true. One moderater there removed my post which was never in any danger of breaching any law. He just objected to my viewpoint. He then went on to tamper with my profile on that forum. He has since resigned as a moderator. As I said some very strange people out there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 10:25:59 GMT
Gaschat forum where you posted a thread titled 'Censorship'. Oh ok, yes thats true. One moderater there removed my post which was never in any danger of breaching any law. He just objected to my viewpoint. He then went on to tamper with my profile on that forum. He has since resigned as a moderator. As I said some very strange people out there. im not talking about the 'crime' it's the principle,You were afforded the opportunity to air your grievances about being censored but you now condone zfc being denied the same opportunity that you were given.Looks like double standards to me.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 5, 2014 10:27:33 GMT
As ever your selective cut & paste is easy to see through, the word potentially was deliberately put in my post. I knew it would trip you up. But like you i'm not aware of anyone ever having reported me either, fancy us having something in common, which undoubtedly means I wasn't responsible for the current affairs section being closed but feel free to keep stating that I was What a very strange person you are. Well knock me down 2 things in common. Next you'll be telling me you like a pint up the civil service before enjoying a game at the Mem.
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 5, 2014 19:02:01 GMT
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” ― George Orwell
“My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line, and kiss my ass.” ― Christopher Hitchens
“Free speech means the right to shout 'theatre' in a crowded fire.” ― Abbie Hoffman
“This is slavery, not to speak one's thought.” ― Euripides, The Phoenician Women
“It is arrogance to tell someone what others will think” – Stuart Thomas
“Most people do not really want others to have freedom of speech, they just want others to be given the freedom to say want they want to hear.” ― Mokokoma Mokhonoana
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Post by Angas on Nov 5, 2014 21:06:33 GMT
“A place for everything, everything in its place".” ― Benjamin Franklin
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 21:10:31 GMT
Oh ok, yes thats true. One moderater there removed my post which was never in any danger of breaching any law. He just objected to my viewpoint. He then went on to tamper with my profile on that forum. He has since resigned as a moderator. As I said some very strange people out there. im not talking about the 'crime' it's the principle,You were afforded the opportunity to air your grievances about being censored but you now condone zfc being denied the same opportunity that you were given.Looks like double standards to me. I get your point. I guess the big difference is that I had not breached forum rules, nor any law. Shane clearly has and its the mods opinion, I guess, that despite repeated warning's he would do so again. If so then their actions are understandable.
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Post by Admin on Nov 6, 2014 0:23:05 GMT
ADMIN: Thread has run its course. Set to fall
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Post by tbonegas on Nov 6, 2014 3:52:43 GMT
ZFC. Would you have him back?
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Post by LJG on Nov 6, 2014 7:21:01 GMT
Bo Henriksen; now there was one underrated player.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 12:54:41 GMT
Bo Henriksen; now there was one underrated player. Bomber Bo, ah. Do I remember him overhead kicking against the crossbar? No, that was Mark Foran against his own.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 6, 2014 15:28:51 GMT
Terry, I agree with most of what you say. However, I have to point out the hypocracy of some on here. This forum, and the previous forum that spawned this one, were the main shouting places used to attack the board of BRFC when the guy was banned from the Mem. The language and vitriol directed at the board was extremely hostile, and still is whenever the subject resurfaces. Now, a section of people on this forum are acting the same as the board. Getting someone banned from something because they didn't like what he was saying. Just because some people complain about something, it doesn't mean they are right. Banning someone based on what other people 'think'? You've opened Pandora's Box there. Sack the board then. Boner, I reckon you have that on paste . Fair play mate, you do give me a laugh when things get daft. I just tend to leave any forums alone when I am in a bad place. Hope you are well mate. Hoping we get to meet up sometime soon. I think, genuinely believe, we would ALL benefit from an FFSC style meet up over a beverage or five. It makes things so much nicer when you get to know a face behind a forum persona. I know I have made some very good friends in doing this and yet it was so easy to think badly of them. I know it's not for everyone, some seem to want to actively hide behind their forum anonymity. If we could manage to get a good few, to meet up, it would make for a much healthier place IMO. Mods, what do you think ? I would be happy to lay on sarns, pies etc.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 6, 2014 15:46:01 GMT
Right, lets cut out the attacks on Shane. He isnt here to argue back (at the moment) I appreciate some people may not take to him or his views, but we dont need a thread to take pot shots at Shane. We can debate the ba , but lets keep it that way Yeah fk off Shane! Naughty fecker
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 6, 2014 15:48:37 GMT
surely you've made that up? That's as unbelievable as Akinde having scored buckets. Whatever's going on in the world? Williams always had something about him but he went from a bit part promising League 2 player to a starter in League 1 over the course of the summer when Walker fell out of favour, always rated him and glad he's doing well all be it for an awful club. I'll never forget that goal at Southampton. Totally agree. He was given Dogs abuse here and was undermined regularly. He has proved them wrong by consistently scoring at Yeovil and Swindle. Hard to take but both better teams than ours.
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