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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 21:38:58 GMT
I see that you're a ''glass half-full'' type of chap, Royal Blue. I take my hat off to you. I find it's the only way to get by Brizzle! As far as Rovers are concerned there are many things I am/have not been happy with in recent years but as far as this crop of players are doing at the moment on the pitch I don't think we can moan. Collectively they have shown more than any Gas squad has done in the last few years and while admittedly that is at a lower level I am enjoying seeing the boys wearing the quarters playing with commitment, passion and determination. What's more, they're picking up points as well. I totally agree that's it's great to know that this team will always give their all for the quarters,i must admit to being a nervous wreck towards the end of games where were a goal up and drop deeper as time goes oh so slowly by.Dont know if that feeling is heightened by sub consciously thinking we have to get straight back up this season but I'm sure it's doing me ticker no good at all.Still think we could finish anywhere from 1st to 16th in all honesty!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 21:46:56 GMT
I find it's the only way to get by Brizzle! As far as Rovers are concerned there are many things I am/have not been happy with in recent years but as far as this crop of players are doing at the moment on the pitch I don't think we can moan. Collectively they have shown more than any Gas squad has done in the last few years and while admittedly that is at a lower level I am enjoying seeing the boys wearing the quarters playing with commitment, passion and determination. What's more, they're picking up points as well. I totally agree that's it's great to know that this team will always give their all for the quarters,i must admit to being a nervous wreck towards the end of games where were a goal up and drop deeper as time goes oh so slowly by.Dont know if that feeling is heightened by sub consciously thinking we have to get straight back up this season but I'm sure it's doing me ticker no good at all.Still think we could finish anywhere from 1st to 16th in all honesty! I was fine on Saturday afternoon until abut twenty to five, at which point I could barely listen to the radio anymore!
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Post by Bridgeman on Nov 2, 2014 22:02:26 GMT
What we are starting to achieve and experience is exactly what a number of non league fans were telling us to expect at the end of last season. Opposition big tough players with little finesse who will try and bully you throughout the game and slow the play down. Their advice was get used to it and find a way to combat it and don't expect pretty football to get out of it. I think we are just starting to get to grips with it, not pretty wins but we're getting there, well done DC and players.....UTG !
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Post by warmleygas on Nov 2, 2014 22:14:41 GMT
Yeah but a goalscorer is still needed
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Post by ellington on Nov 2, 2014 22:17:52 GMT
If we get a proven goal scorer I think we can win the league , this is the fine line .
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 2, 2014 22:19:33 GMT
Problem is every game seems to be a dour one, can we really go all season scrapping lucky 1-0's and still make the Play Offs or will our luck run out? In my view the big issue is our lack of a goalscorer. 'Lucky'?! You can say many things about Rovers this season but I don't think we owe our position to luck Not sure as how many games have we come away from saying we were were lucky to hold out for a 1-0 victory. Our present strike force of Brunt, Cunnington, White, Harrison & Taylor combined will be lucky yo score the 11 goals already scored by Akinde.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 22:35:01 GMT
'Lucky'?! You can say many things about Rovers this season but I don't think we owe our position to luck Not sure as how many games have we come away from saying we were were lucky to hold out for a 1-0 victory. Our present strike force of Brunt, Cunnington, White, Harrison & Taylor combined will be lucky yo score the 11 goals already scored by Akinde. 1) We've won 1-0 five times this season. We may or may not have been 'lucky' to hold out for the win on those occasions but the fact that we did says something positive about the team. Repeated often enough it stops being 'luck'. 2) Those particular players have scored 12 times between them this season
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Post by warmleygas on Nov 3, 2014 0:21:39 GMT
'Lucky'?! You can say many things about Rovers this season but I don't think we owe our position to luck Not sure as how many games have we come away from saying we were were lucky to hold out for a 1-0 victory. Our present strike force of Brunt, Cunnington, White, Harrison & Taylor combined will be lucky yo score the 11 goals already scored by Akinde. Exactly all three of top Barnet's Goalscorers have more than any of ours 11, 8 and 7 and their goal difference is 29, we have 3 players with 3 goals and GD of 5. Surely that proves the point?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 3:23:07 GMT
Not sure as how many games have we come away from saying we were were lucky to hold out for a 1-0 victory. Our present strike force of Brunt, Cunnington, White, Harrison & Taylor combined will be lucky yo score the 11 goals already scored by Akinde. 1) We've won 1-0 five times this season. We may or may not have been 'lucky' to hold out for the win on those occasions but the fact that we did says something positive about the team. Repeated often enough it stops being 'luck'. 2) Those particular players have scored 12 times between them this season dont forget the leeds and liverpool teams of revie and shankly won endless games 1-0 as did cloughs nottm forest not to mention gerry francis bristol rovers promotion team and don megsons 73-74 team,,dc is looking to bring a striker in but it has to be the right man not easy in november
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2014 8:45:40 GMT
Problem is those achivements were 20 to 30 years ago not in the modern game? As far as it's not easy in November can you name a month when it is easy for Rovers to bring in a good striker given how long we've been waiting for one??
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2014 9:54:42 GMT
There are lots of things that make up a great striker and a lot of it is down to absolute luck.You really need to find a partnership that works. Chester fans will tell you that Matty Taylor was the best striker in the Conference. Salisbury fans would rate Jamie White up there and yet neither has yet worked for us. David Clarkson has got 5 in 5 for Dundee but never looked consistent enough to do that for us. Many managers would have given up on Jason Roberts after his first dozen games for us and we would have lost out on all his goals. There is no guarantee that a new striker will do any better than what we have given the lack of creativity in our midfield (although I think they probably will!!) What team really wants to let go a player who is scoring goals at the present time? What team has an excess of these? The time to get a striker is in the summer or January but of course in January the chances are you will have to pay good money to get a player who is scoring goals. Not easy!!!
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Post by LJG on Nov 3, 2014 10:02:42 GMT
There are lots of things that make up a great striker and a lot of it is down to absolute luck.You really need to find a partnership that works. Chester fans will tell you that Matty Taylor was the best striker in the Conference. Salisbury fans would rate Jamie White up there and yet neither has yet worked for us. David Clarkson has got 5 in 5 for Dundee but never looked consistent enough to do that for us. Many managers would have given up on Jason Roberts after his first dozen games for us and we would have lost out on all his goals. There is no guarantee that a new striker will do any better than what we have given the lack of creativity in our midfield (although I think they probably will!!) What team really wants to let go a player who is scoring goals at the present time? What team has an excess of these? The time to get a striker is in the summer or January but of course in January the chances are you will have to pay good money to get a player who is scoring goals. Not easy!!! We'll have played thirty games by January. Why bring a new player in for the final third of the season? It's the gaping hole in the centre of midfield that needs filling.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2014 14:58:32 GMT
LJG, I agree on the Central Midfield. Our problem there is that all the players who play in there are OK or would be Ok with a different player alongside them, as i say someone who DICTATES the pace of the game and has an eye for a pass. Personally I think we need to find someone to play alongside Mansell but we probably need another striker as well with a 1 in 2 goal ratio at this level.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 3, 2014 15:08:29 GMT
4 points separate 2nd to 10th and 3 (a win) from 3rd to 10th. Had we lost on Saturday, and with the lottery of those refs that was possible, we would be 10th.
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Post by irishrover on Nov 3, 2014 15:37:33 GMT
4 points separate 2nd to 10th and 3 (a win) from 3rd to 10th. Had we lost on Saturday, and with the lottery of those refs that was possible, we would be 10th. I don't think at this stage it's that vital. What is important surely is that we are in that group and therefore staying in touch of promotion. It would be nice if Barnet was to come back into the pack a bit and keep open the possibility of automatic promotion but I don't think we're doing a lot wrong results wise. If we stay in that pack the key as ever will be how teams react to new signings in January and key injuries.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 16:33:04 GMT
Yep, I honestly think that just staying in touch until Christmas is key - then we see what budget we have to kick on. It's the second half of the season when squad depth is really tested
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 17:58:29 GMT
Problem is those achivements were 20 to 30 years ago not in the modern game? As far as it's not easy in November can you name a month when it is easy for Rovers to bring in a good striker given how long we've been waiting for one?? yes fair point but its what every club wants and there are very few nailed on regular goalscorers around
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Post by nit3owl64 on Nov 3, 2014 18:25:06 GMT
A famous bloke said this once -
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Nov 3, 2014 18:58:44 GMT
Going to need a goalscorer for the playoffs (if we make them) grinding out one nil wins is all well and good, but I don't fancy having to do that over two legs! It would also be handy if Balanta turns out to be useful
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