irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Nov 2, 2014 17:02:32 GMT
Absolutely not and typical of a wrongheaded at all costs strategy. This kind of thing (though I don't mean exactly this because I don't think Lansdowne would be involved) is what worries me most That we build and move into the UWE but have very little control over it.
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Post by redoxo on Nov 4, 2014 14:33:42 GMT
While Bristol Rovers are not specifically excluded from becoming part of Bristol Sport, it is unlikely that they will ever be invited to join unless they get themselves into massive trouble and the survival of the club was at stake. I hope Bristol Rovers can get their new ground built, however it seems less likely to be any time soon and to be frank it is no longer the priority of the club (if it is then BRFC may well be outside the football league longer than necessary). BRFC are the competitors of Bristol City (in terms of attracting supporters) and as such it would make no sense for Bristol Sport to underpin BRFC with assistance (unless as above) as football supporters do not tend to follow two clubs simultaneously in any sustainable number. Steve Lansdown has put 50m into Bristol City and is currently busy shoving in another 30m into the 'Trashton Tart Up' plus the investment of sports facilities at AV etc. Yes SL is a businessman, however the investment in Bristol Sport is not about making money (at 1.5Bn, he has plenty of that and its growing at a faster rate than most of us could imagine) its about a legacy to the City of Bristol (Altruism is the preserve of Billionaires) probably someday with his name attached...The Steve Lansdown Aston Gate (The SLAG one for you boys to ponder LOL!) perhaps or something along those lines after his demise (or perhaps before). Either way what is clear is Steve Lansdown is also a supporter of Bristol City FC and Bristol Rugby et al, which helps, and specifically not a supporter of BRFC as he has made it plain that he feels the board (and supporters) of BRFC could have been far more helpful (the board of BRFC being a huge topic of conversation on this forum also!!) than they have been on a number of issues, including AV among sundry other matters. Hope this helps! I didnt save he should invest in BRFC but in the EWE Stadium, if the finance has a shortfall, which it appears it has, then there is nothing stopping anyone, if invited, from investing in the ground without investing in the club. I understand Mr Lansdown has today stated in the 'Current Bun' that he does not miss the local Derby against Rovers and could not careless if we never had one again, due in part to the massive police bill and the huge amount of agro with the FA, the papers, police et al that dogs a game against BRFC for month's after! (Before anyone gets out of control I'm not blaming anyone it is just a fact). My personal opinion is that reading between the lines he is making it clear he has no interest in BRFC in any way shape or form including the football club the Memorial Ground and the UWE and will not be a White Knight if BRFC should fall into greater financial difficulty....So perhaps he has been invited!?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 14:43:19 GMT
So he's a tax dodger that speaks to The Sun, can this guy become any more a disgusting human?
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Post by mjhgas on Nov 4, 2014 15:22:51 GMT
If you were SL, would you buy a rival a stadium? Not a chance!
It won't be long before the Premier League and Championship become a closed shop. City will get in to that and we'll never see them again! Only Brentford who are punching above their weight at the moment! City, PNE & Sheff Utd required to shut the door on Division 2 North & South!
I see that building work at Ashton Gate is progressing!!!
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Post by Somerset Blue on Nov 4, 2014 15:52:49 GMT
Its funny how people knock Lansdown yet if he was our Chairman we would be looking for him to be Knighted. We are jealous whether we care to admit it or not and the great work he has done for his team is only highlighted by the fumblings, lies and shambles of our people.
Not surprisingly the Walking Dead across the River actually moan when he is not pumping even more money into their club.... total ingrats as we all know.
No way will he come to the aid of us ... once again the arrogance of our people in days gone by have alienated anything like that... the only support he might give is to lead any enquiry if we ever fold as a club !! Truth could come out then who knows?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 4, 2014 16:01:41 GMT
Its funny how people knock Lansdown yet if he was our Chairman we would be looking for him to be Knighted. We are jealous whether we care to admit it or not and the great work he has done for his team is only highlighted by the fumblings, lies and shambles of our people. If he'd spent 60 million of Rovers and we were still in League 1, I'd think he was an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 16:15:44 GMT
Its funny how people knock Lansdown yet if he was our Chairman we would be looking for him to be Knighted. We are jealous whether we care to admit it or not and the great work he has done for his team is only highlighted by the fumblings, lies and shambles of our people. If he'd spent 60 million of Rovers and we were still in League 1, I'd think he was an idiot. ...and I'd be disgusted he was using unpaid tax money to fund his toy.
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Post by dagnogo on Nov 4, 2014 17:13:36 GMT
Its funny how people knock Lansdown yet if he was our Chairman we would be looking for him to be Knighted. We are jealous whether we care to admit it or not and the great work he has done for his team is only highlighted by the fumblings, lies and shambles of our people. Not surprisingly the Walking Dead across the River actually moan when he is not pumping even more money into their club.... total ingrats as we all know. No way will he come to the aid of us ... once again the arrogance of our people in days gone by have alienated anything like that... the only support he might give is to lead any enquiry if we ever fold as a club !! Truth could come out then who knows? Of course we do. That's football. Roy Keane was a cheat and hated by rival fans but if he played for Arsenal/Man City/Liverpool their fans would have loved him. Its not hypocrisy, it's rivalry and loyalty.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 4, 2014 17:42:39 GMT
Its funny how people knock Lansdown yet if he was our Chairman we would be looking for him to be Knighted. We are jealous whether we care to admit it or not and the great work he has done for his team is only highlighted by the fumblings, lies and shambles of our people. Not surprisingly the Walking Dead across the River actually moan when he is not pumping even more money into their club.... total ingrats as we all know. No way will he come to the aid of us ... once again the arrogance of our people in days gone by have alienated anything like that... the only support he might give is to lead any enquiry if we ever fold as a club !! Truth could come out then who knows? If we ever fold as a club I should think Mrs Higgs would be leading any enquiry.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 4, 2014 19:09:35 GMT
I didnt save he should invest in BRFC but in the EWE Stadium, if the finance has a shortfall, which it appears it has, then there is nothing stopping anyone, if invited, from investing in the ground without investing in the club. I understand Mr Lansdown has today stated in the 'Current Bun' that he does not miss the local Derby against Rovers and could not careless if we never had one again, due in part to the massive police bill and the huge amount of agro with the FA, the papers, police et al that dogs a game against BRFC for month's after! (Before anyone gets out of control I'm not blaming anyone it is just a fact). My personal opinion is that reading between the lines he is making it clear he has no interest in BRFC in any way shape or form including the football club the Memorial Ground and the UWE and will not be a White Knight if BRFC should fall into greater financial difficulty....So perhaps he has been invited!? I suspect Pantsdown dislike of local derbies is less to with all the associated trouble and more to do with not wanting the embarrassment of another Rickie Lambert moment & the realisation of money down the drain.
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Post by redoxo on Nov 4, 2014 20:33:23 GMT
I understand Mr Lansdown has today stated in the 'Current Bun' that he does not miss the local Derby against Rovers and could not careless if we never had one again, due in part to the massive police bill and the huge amount of agro with the FA, the papers, police et al that dogs a game against BRFC for month's after! (Before anyone gets out of control I'm not blaming anyone it is just a fact). My personal opinion is that reading between the lines he is making it clear he has no interest in BRFC in any way shape or form including the football club the Memorial Ground and the UWE and will not be a White Knight if BRFC should fall into greater financial difficulty....So perhaps he has been invited!? I suspect Pantsdown dislike of local derbies is less to with all the associated trouble and more to do with not wanting the embarrassment of another Rickie Lambert moment & the realisation of money down the drain. I agree! League Local Derbies with Rovers will highlight failure at Bristol City and so I have some sympathy with your point!
As many have stated Rovers need someone with some kind of financial clout, good luck with that, to compete at the level they should be at! Mr. Higgs and the current board are largely responsible for where you are not Bristol City or SL, but most of you don't need me to tell you that!
I appreciate the general good spirited reception I have had on this thread and I think you find that is reciprocated with a few of the Gas Girls/Guys that post on OTIB...In the net and Maheddeney among a few others.
As to the disgusting human being comment above....REALLY!
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 4, 2014 20:46:08 GMT
I suspect Pantsdown dislike of local derbies is less to with all the associated trouble and more to do with not wanting the embarrassment of another Rickie Lambert moment & the realisation of money down the drain. I agree! League Local Derbies with Rovers will highlight failure at Bristol City and so I have some sympathy with your point!
As many have stated Rovers need someone with some kind of financial clout, good luck with that, to compete at the level they should be at! Mr. Higgs and the current board are largely responsible for where you are not Bristol City or SL, but most of you don't need me to tell you that!
I appreciate the general good spirited reception I have had on this thread and I think you find that is reciprocated with a few of the Gas Girls/Guys that post on OTIB...In the net and Maheddeney among a few others.
As to the disgusting human being comment above....REALLY!
I suspect the 'disgusting human' comment is from a Labour voter that fails to see that it was Labour policy that led to Pantsdown moving. But Labour voters to love an expensive headline.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 20:46:24 GMT
Well he should pay his fair share like the rest of us, then he may not get called names
Edit: nothing to do with Labour policy, more naked greed. That's the ridiculously rich for you though
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 4, 2014 20:53:26 GMT
Well he should pay his fair share like the rest of us, then he may not get called names Edit: nothing to do with Labour policy, more naked greed. That's the ridiculously rich for you though Why don't you put yourself straight and ask Pantsdown what made him leave? Always been very open that it was a 50% tax rate that was set by whom? Ah yep the financial wizards of the Labour party, turning Gold into Lead with ease.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 4, 2014 20:55:07 GMT
Well he should pay his fair share like the rest of us, then he may not get called names Edit: nothing to do with Labour policy, more naked greed. That's the ridiculously rich for you though Why don't you put yourself straight and ask Pantsdown what made him leave? Always been very open that it was a 50% tax rate that was set by whom? Ah yep the financial wizards of the Labour party, turning Gold into Lead with ease. This is bulls**t. I refuted this last week which you ignored. He doesn't pay income tax, he pays capital gains tax.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 20:56:16 GMT
Yeah, he didn't want to pay his fair share, that's what I said. He decided that having made his money from the people of this country, he didn't think he should make a contribution back to society.
Newsflash: Labour haven't run the country since 2010. Has he come back? No. Why? Because he thinks he's above putting something back into the society that made him a multi millionaire. What a dick.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 4, 2014 20:59:04 GMT
Yeah, he didn't want to pay his fair share, that's what I said. He decided that having made his money from the people of this country, he didn't think he should make a contribution back to society. Newsflash: Labour haven't run the country since 2010. Has he come back? No. Why? Because he thinks he's above putting something back into the society that made him a multi millionaire. What a dick. Ah so now you're admitting it was because of Labour policy he moved. Any more back flips?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 21:01:42 GMT
Yeah, he moved because he didn't want to pay his fair share. That's what we're saying. No backflip there, he thinks he's above the society that's given him an extremely comfortable life. I don't support Labour, I'm not a right winger
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 4, 2014 21:04:01 GMT
Why don't you put yourself straight and ask Pantsdown what made him leave? Always been very open that it was a 50% tax rate that was set by whom? Ah yep the financial wizards of the Labour party, turning Gold into Lead with ease. This is bulls***. I refuted this last week which you ignored. He doesn't pay income tax, he pays capital gains tax. Was more than last week & you did refute it but didn't prove that it wasn't true . But now we are onto an individuals tax affairs do spill the beans on how you know he pays capital gains tax & not income tax? And do remember the relevant bit is his tax affairs when he left for the Channel Islands. Go on any little bit of proof ................... I'd love to see his tax returns I'm sure you can whistle them up as you know so much.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 4, 2014 21:17:34 GMT
This is bulls***. I refuted this last week which you ignored. He doesn't pay income tax, he pays capital gains tax. Was more than last week & you did refute it but didn't prove that it wasn't true . But now we are onto an individuals tax affairs do spill the beans on how you know he pays capital gains tax & not income tax? And do remember the relevant bit is his tax affairs when he left for the Channel Islands. Go on any little bit of proof ................... I'd love to see his tax returns I'm sure you can whistle them up as you know so much. Well, for a start, you keep bringing it up, so really the onus is on you. If you just make that sort of statement and then someone challenges you, then you demanding they prove it is ridiculous. You must see that, right? You can't hold the person you're chatting to to a higher level of veracity than to which you're prepared to hold yourself. In any case, your idea that SL is worried about his income tax is so ludicrous. Generally income tax is for salaries; if you have over a billion pounds in assets, salaries don't really come into consideration.
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