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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 23:06:22 GMT
there was a poster called gashead wes who used to post lots of youtube vids of prospects from various standards and im told came back as the realist,
wes was very critical of some of our new signings and i replied by stating "he was very unfair on these players who deserved a fair chance" after this several posters savagely ripped into his youtube videos and he then deleted.
im very comfortable with my response to his post about our new players but alarmed by the posts that followed regarding his youtube videos which wernt everyones cup of tea but which i found enjoyable. i think many on here would like him back even if they dont agree with many of his opinions,its fine and even great fun to strongly disagree with someone as long as it dosnt turn into abuse. i dont think it would hurt dc having a little look at some of his vids but but wouldnt be critical of him if he decided to use channels he preferred and trusted.
what do others think? if you remember this poster of course
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 23:11:53 GMT
He is not banned and can post under his forum name. I really liked his players profile youtubes and his knowledge. The other stuff No comment as it has been done already.
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Post by chelt_gas on Sept 27, 2014 1:21:42 GMT
Wes is a top poster, I forwarded his links to other clubs' forums and the response was much more positive!!
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Sept 27, 2014 7:38:41 GMT
I agree, the only problem was he didn't take criticism very well. Someone suggested if you recommend enough players eventually one of them will be successful, which I guess is true but sounds as if you're being very negative about that persons recommendations. Whilst he seemed very knowledgeable about certain groups of players and some people on the forum's admired him for that no one at the club had ever heard of him. There are others who post on here who I am sure are very genuine about their view of players and who say have recommended players to the club over a number of years since Paul Trollope and Lennie Lawrence were here but they are never taken up. It's always difficult I'm sure for management staff with the limited amount of time they have for scouting and will therefore likely use their own trusted sources and the trouble with opinions, particularly about football players is that someone else usually has a different one
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Post by gashead1979 on Sept 27, 2014 9:33:07 GMT
Wes is a top poster, I forwarded his links to other clubs' forums and the response was much more positive!! Why on earth would you do that?
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Post by LJG on Sept 27, 2014 9:37:15 GMT
Again with this? Again? Seriously?
Not Rovers related.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 10:06:55 GMT
Again with this? Again? Seriously? Not Rovers related. i thought it was rovers related because at least in theory he was spotting talent he felt rovers should look at?
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Post by LJG on Sept 27, 2014 11:55:27 GMT
Again with this? Again? Seriously? Not Rovers related. i thought it was rovers related because at least in theory he was spotting talent he felt rovers should look at? It's just another opportunity for those who want to to further victimise an individual poster. Pointless and irresponsible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 12:03:07 GMT
i thought it was rovers related because at least in theory he was spotting talent he felt rovers should look at? It's just another opportunity for those who want to to further victimise an individual poster. Pointless and irresponsible. i was hoping for the opposite effect,naive perhaps?
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Post by brizzle on Sept 27, 2014 14:14:32 GMT
I always enjoyed reading any football related posts by Wes, as he was always very knowledgeable and seemed to be a perfect gent.
My only regret was when he branched out onto the Current Affairs section, with disastrous results for anyone who enjoyed reading that section of the Forum. At that point he seemed to turn from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde.
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 27, 2014 14:51:34 GMT
When you put yourself out there with strong opinions then you need to expect to be shot down when they are rubbished.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 28, 2014 12:32:18 GMT
What I've often wondered about gasheadwes is how he has time to go around and scout 1000's of players every year. Not just once, because to have a balanced view surely you should see them at least 3 or 4 times?
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Post by Angas on Sept 28, 2014 12:44:03 GMT
He explained a million times. He never claimed to be the supreme expert, but he did get offered a job scouting for the 82'ers so they must have thought he knew something. He turned it down, of course, on principle.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 28, 2014 12:47:05 GMT
He explained a million times. He never claimed to be the supreme expert, but he did get offered a job scouting for the 82'ers so they must have thought he knew something. He turned it down, of course, on principle. I didn't say he was an expert, far from it in fact. I just wondered how he has time to scout 1000's of players? Thats all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 13:30:14 GMT
He explained a million times. He never claimed to be the supreme expert, but he did get offered a job scouting for the 82'ers so they must have thought he knew something. He turned it down, of course, on principle. I didn't say he was an expert, far from it in fact. I just wondered how he has time to scout 1000's of players? Thats all. Trawl the non-league paper, league scoring charts, head to the clubs website for pen pictures, look at forums and youtube. He took a similar approach to his conspiracy theories.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 18:06:27 GMT
A lot of scouting is done the same way as Wes does,it is impossible to cover every game and look at every player so you have to use recommendations from such as Wes,Clubs web sites,forums etc,newspaper reports and general stats.Nothing wtong with the way Wes works,he has passed a few top tips to me that i have followed up on
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Post by kwoodgas on Oct 4, 2014 18:37:32 GMT
A lot of scouting is done the same way as Wes does,it is impossible to cover every game and look at every player so you have to use recommendations from such as Wes,Clubs web sites,forums etc,newspaper reports and general stats.Nothing wtong with the way Wes works,he has passed a few top tips to me that i have followed up on What club(s) do you scout for Padstow?
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Post by Bridgeman on Oct 4, 2014 21:25:34 GMT
A lot of scouting is done the same way as Wes does,it is impossible to cover every game and look at every player so you have to use recommendations from such as Wes,Clubs web sites,forums etc,newspaper reports and general stats.Nothing wtong with the way Wes works,he has passed a few top tips to me that i have followed up on Any idea why the club/manager doesn't take up any of either yours or Wes's recommendations ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:27:23 GMT
A lot of scouting is done the same way as Wes does,it is impossible to cover every game and look at every player so you have to use recommendations from such as Wes,Clubs web sites,forums etc,newspaper reports and general stats.Nothing wtong with the way Wes works,he has passed a few top tips to me that i have followed up on Any idea why the club/manager doesn't take up any of either yours or Wes's recommendations ? How do you know that he doesn't do that ??
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Post by Bridgeman on Oct 4, 2014 21:32:00 GMT
Any idea why the club/manager doesn't take up any of either yours or Wes's recommendations ? How do you know that he doesn't do that ?? Because they've both said previously that they have stopped forwarding recommendations to the club as they are never taken up.
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