Post by pastygas on Sept 25, 2014 13:01:18 GMT
Hi not posted on here before so first time for every thing, I've been a gashead for over 30 years but currently reside in the land of the pasty
along time ago I queried part of trashes propaganda, for which I finally got a reply and I couldn't be bothered to argue with them. Since then I've keep receiving trash supporter emails and low and behold I've received another
it shows how far they want to go to stop the sainsburys ( if it ever gets off the ground). What they do tho is to encourage people from outside the area to write in and object. Double standards I believe but it does show why Rovers fans, particularly in the area around the ground NEED to write in and support the current application.
any way enough of me please find below the email from trash, nothing new but thought I'd bring it to all's attention
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URGENT ACTION REQUIRED
A new planning application has been submitted to Bristol City Council
to extend delivery hours to 19 hours a day, 7 days a week for the
proposed new Sainsbury’s store at the Memorial Stadium.
In the face of rumours of a possible Sainsbury’s pull-out, Bristol Rovers
FC have taken it upon themselves to remove the final hurdle holding up
the contract - the extension of delivery hours condition.
You can make an objection online:- tinyurl.com/deliveryhours
Deadline for representations: Monday 29th September 2014.
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Proposed Sainsbury’s store at the Memorial Ground
BRISTOL ROVERS NOW SUBMIT NEW PLANNING APPLICATION 14/04174/X TO EXTEND DELIVERY TIMES TO SUPERMARKET!
Rovers (Sainsbury’s?) now want to supply the proposed Memorial Ground store using 44-ton lorries
5am-12 midnight, 7-days-a-week.
Bristol City Council refused the original application to extend delivery times on 28 Jan 2014, as these extended hours of delivery “would have a detrimental impact on the amenity of local residents”.
Sainsbury’s noise assessment showed that properties around the site would suffer sleep-disturbing levels of noise for 19 hours every day.
Now, Rovers have produced a new Noise Assessment that claims that this is not the case! And Bristol City Council look prepared to accept this new assessment and recommend approval. SO URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED.
For this application, Rovers’ assessment uses 2 new tactics to supposedly mitigate harmful impacts:
1. The threshold for what is considered a sleep disturbing level of noise has been raised. The assessment now says it is no longer the widely recognised World Health Org. limit of 45 dBLAmax but 53 dBLAmax that will awaken residents.
2. The assessment assumes the construction of enormous noise barriers around the gardens of properties severely affected by the noise.
These noise barriers will be 7.8 ft to 11.8 ft (2.3m – 3.6m) in height. The prison-like barriers will throw gardens into shadow and create an oppressive, alienating environment.
The currently agreed 17 delivery hours per day (6am to 11pm) are more than enough already! Much stronger restrictions exist for other supermarkets in “residential locations” in our area:
Co-op, 335 Glos Road 8am - 6pm Mon-Sun (10 hours daily)
Tesco Golden Hill 7am - 9pm Mon-Sun (14 hours daily)
When the Council approved the planning application for the Sainsbury’s superstore it stated the development was ‘very finely balanced’. The Council inserted a condition on noise to protect local residents as part of this balance. To remove this condition alters the ‘balanced’ impact of the entire development. This is an important point to make in objections.
WHAT YOU CAN DO:
This application will most likely be determined by a planning committee.
Bristol City Council will be interested in all objections and especially from local people who live in places that would be affected directly (including the various routes to the superstore)
This application will also set a precedent for late night/early morning deliveries in Bristol within residential areas. Even if Sainsbury’s do not build the Memorial Ground store this precedent would enable other stores to reasonably pursue these same extensive hours (as the permitted hours for this store were justified on those granted to the unbuilt store at Ashton Gate).
If you live locally to the site, you could state:
currently you are not disturbed by traffic at night.
this extension of delivery hours will negatively affect the quality of your and/or your family’s sleep.
sleep disturbance is widely recognised to impair quality of life, health and performance.
the difference between 7 quiet hours per night and only 5 hours of undisturbed sleep is extremely significant.
The construction of even higher fencing around your property will adversely affect the quality of light you get in your house and garden and overall quality of life in your property.
44-ton lorries are noisy: they are the largest, maximum weight lorries allowed on UK roads and were designed for motorway haulage, not for local residential roads.
Ground-borne vibration is a problem in the area already. Extending the hours for heavy traffic will cause house shaking and window rattling that will disturb your sleep.
These HGV’s will be travelling fully laden in low gear up Muller Rd, with its steep hills and descents, its many family houses and its 7 sets of traffic lights.
On Filton Avenue these HGVs will thump up and down a raised-table roundabout. This raised table has been omitted from the Noise assessment despite being required for safety.
Neighbours further away from the store site will likely have disturbance earlier and later if the deliveries are to start and end on-site at 5am and midnight respectively.
If you live further away, you may still want to object to these extended delivery hours on the basis it could set a dire precedent:
Setting a precedent for such long delivery hours (19 every day including Sundays) could lead to a flurry of applications from other stores across the city to increase their delivery hours.
No justification is provided for abandoning World Health Organisation (WHO) guidelines on maximum noise levels and bizarrely, adopting an older, seemingly forgotten European study. This also sets a dangerous precedent: Will all future noise assessments assume this less stringent standard in defiance of modern research and usual practice (which is to use the WHO standards)?
The research employed to justify departure from the WHO recognised limit for night time noise cannot be read by anyone who is not fluent in German. No translation has been provided for this document - "Präventivmedizinische Vorschläge für den nächtlichen Schallschutz”
A key failure of this application is that it has not been the object of a proper consultation: Only a few of the households adjacent to the site have been informed. Households along the densely packed residential districts, through which these HGVs will travel (along and adjacent to Muller Road and Gloucester Road), have not been consulted. Yet again this sets an unwelcome precedent – even providing a model of how to slip through an unwelcome planning application under the unsuspecting noses of those most affected.
Nor has anybody bothered to explain how the noise barriers are supposed to work, or to discuss why it is appropriate to surround residents gardens with high walling to enable a completely inappropriate extension of delivery hours.
Noise bounces off surrounding buildings creating unpredictable impacts. A wet road makes more noise.
No attention has been paid to the age and structure of the mainly Victorian houses in the area. Not only are they less likely to have noise-reducing measures built in, but also they are liable to suffer shaking due to vibrations from large vehicles like buses. Forty-four ton HGVs will cause far more disturbance of this nature.
Simply register your comments ONLINE at:
tinyurl.com/deliveryhours (click on Make a public comment)
If you prefer, you can write a letter and send it to:
Peter Westbury
Planning-Development Management
Brunel House,
St George’s Road
Bristol BS1 5UY
Remember to quote the planning application no. 14/04174/X
Deadline for representations: Monday 29th September 2014.
For further information see: TRASHorfield.wordpress.com
Please Note: This email is being sent to martin@ xxxxxxxxxxxx....... because at some point in the past you have had email contract with TRASHorfield. We are sending this email to keep everyone up to date with our news and activities.
along time ago I queried part of trashes propaganda, for which I finally got a reply and I couldn't be bothered to argue with them. Since then I've keep receiving trash supporter emails and low and behold I've received another
it shows how far they want to go to stop the sainsburys ( if it ever gets off the ground). What they do tho is to encourage people from outside the area to write in and object. Double standards I believe but it does show why Rovers fans, particularly in the area around the ground NEED to write in and support the current application.
any way enough of me please find below the email from trash, nothing new but thought I'd bring it to all's attention
*************************************************************************
URGENT ACTION REQUIRED
A new planning application has been submitted to Bristol City Council
to extend delivery hours to 19 hours a day, 7 days a week for the
proposed new Sainsbury’s store at the Memorial Stadium.
In the face of rumours of a possible Sainsbury’s pull-out, Bristol Rovers
FC have taken it upon themselves to remove the final hurdle holding up
the contract - the extension of delivery hours condition.
You can make an objection online:- tinyurl.com/deliveryhours
Deadline for representations: Monday 29th September 2014.
*************************************************************************
Proposed Sainsbury’s store at the Memorial Ground
BRISTOL ROVERS NOW SUBMIT NEW PLANNING APPLICATION 14/04174/X TO EXTEND DELIVERY TIMES TO SUPERMARKET!
Rovers (Sainsbury’s?) now want to supply the proposed Memorial Ground store using 44-ton lorries
5am-12 midnight, 7-days-a-week.
Bristol City Council refused the original application to extend delivery times on 28 Jan 2014, as these extended hours of delivery “would have a detrimental impact on the amenity of local residents”.
Sainsbury’s noise assessment showed that properties around the site would suffer sleep-disturbing levels of noise for 19 hours every day.
Now, Rovers have produced a new Noise Assessment that claims that this is not the case! And Bristol City Council look prepared to accept this new assessment and recommend approval. SO URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED.
For this application, Rovers’ assessment uses 2 new tactics to supposedly mitigate harmful impacts:
1. The threshold for what is considered a sleep disturbing level of noise has been raised. The assessment now says it is no longer the widely recognised World Health Org. limit of 45 dBLAmax but 53 dBLAmax that will awaken residents.
2. The assessment assumes the construction of enormous noise barriers around the gardens of properties severely affected by the noise.
These noise barriers will be 7.8 ft to 11.8 ft (2.3m – 3.6m) in height. The prison-like barriers will throw gardens into shadow and create an oppressive, alienating environment.
The currently agreed 17 delivery hours per day (6am to 11pm) are more than enough already! Much stronger restrictions exist for other supermarkets in “residential locations” in our area:
Co-op, 335 Glos Road 8am - 6pm Mon-Sun (10 hours daily)
Tesco Golden Hill 7am - 9pm Mon-Sun (14 hours daily)
When the Council approved the planning application for the Sainsbury’s superstore it stated the development was ‘very finely balanced’. The Council inserted a condition on noise to protect local residents as part of this balance. To remove this condition alters the ‘balanced’ impact of the entire development. This is an important point to make in objections.
WHAT YOU CAN DO:
This application will most likely be determined by a planning committee.
Bristol City Council will be interested in all objections and especially from local people who live in places that would be affected directly (including the various routes to the superstore)
This application will also set a precedent for late night/early morning deliveries in Bristol within residential areas. Even if Sainsbury’s do not build the Memorial Ground store this precedent would enable other stores to reasonably pursue these same extensive hours (as the permitted hours for this store were justified on those granted to the unbuilt store at Ashton Gate).
If you live locally to the site, you could state:
currently you are not disturbed by traffic at night.
this extension of delivery hours will negatively affect the quality of your and/or your family’s sleep.
sleep disturbance is widely recognised to impair quality of life, health and performance.
the difference between 7 quiet hours per night and only 5 hours of undisturbed sleep is extremely significant.
The construction of even higher fencing around your property will adversely affect the quality of light you get in your house and garden and overall quality of life in your property.
44-ton lorries are noisy: they are the largest, maximum weight lorries allowed on UK roads and were designed for motorway haulage, not for local residential roads.
Ground-borne vibration is a problem in the area already. Extending the hours for heavy traffic will cause house shaking and window rattling that will disturb your sleep.
These HGV’s will be travelling fully laden in low gear up Muller Rd, with its steep hills and descents, its many family houses and its 7 sets of traffic lights.
On Filton Avenue these HGVs will thump up and down a raised-table roundabout. This raised table has been omitted from the Noise assessment despite being required for safety.
Neighbours further away from the store site will likely have disturbance earlier and later if the deliveries are to start and end on-site at 5am and midnight respectively.
If you live further away, you may still want to object to these extended delivery hours on the basis it could set a dire precedent:
Setting a precedent for such long delivery hours (19 every day including Sundays) could lead to a flurry of applications from other stores across the city to increase their delivery hours.
No justification is provided for abandoning World Health Organisation (WHO) guidelines on maximum noise levels and bizarrely, adopting an older, seemingly forgotten European study. This also sets a dangerous precedent: Will all future noise assessments assume this less stringent standard in defiance of modern research and usual practice (which is to use the WHO standards)?
The research employed to justify departure from the WHO recognised limit for night time noise cannot be read by anyone who is not fluent in German. No translation has been provided for this document - "Präventivmedizinische Vorschläge für den nächtlichen Schallschutz”
A key failure of this application is that it has not been the object of a proper consultation: Only a few of the households adjacent to the site have been informed. Households along the densely packed residential districts, through which these HGVs will travel (along and adjacent to Muller Road and Gloucester Road), have not been consulted. Yet again this sets an unwelcome precedent – even providing a model of how to slip through an unwelcome planning application under the unsuspecting noses of those most affected.
Nor has anybody bothered to explain how the noise barriers are supposed to work, or to discuss why it is appropriate to surround residents gardens with high walling to enable a completely inappropriate extension of delivery hours.
Noise bounces off surrounding buildings creating unpredictable impacts. A wet road makes more noise.
No attention has been paid to the age and structure of the mainly Victorian houses in the area. Not only are they less likely to have noise-reducing measures built in, but also they are liable to suffer shaking due to vibrations from large vehicles like buses. Forty-four ton HGVs will cause far more disturbance of this nature.
Simply register your comments ONLINE at:
tinyurl.com/deliveryhours (click on Make a public comment)
If you prefer, you can write a letter and send it to:
Peter Westbury
Planning-Development Management
Brunel House,
St George’s Road
Bristol BS1 5UY
Remember to quote the planning application no. 14/04174/X
Deadline for representations: Monday 29th September 2014.
For further information see: TRASHorfield.wordpress.com
Please Note: This email is being sent to martin@ xxxxxxxxxxxx....... because at some point in the past you have had email contract with TRASHorfield. We are sending this email to keep everyone up to date with our news and activities.
