GasHeadGaz
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 11, 2014 8:27:28 GMT
Has absolutely flown by!(no pun intended)
Every time I see those planes hit the towers the hair on the back of the neck stands up. Still fresh in the memory.
Nat Geo channel are showing a good programme, The George Bush interview.
Admin, wasn't sure where to put this, feel free to move it if required.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 8:29:54 GMT
Thirteen years since Andrew Johnson tore us apart in the Worthington Cup for Birmingham.
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brizzle
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Post by brizzle on Sept 11, 2014 18:42:54 GMT
To me it represents the end of the American public funding international terrorism themselves. Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public, largely the New England states in the North East of the country. Those donations prolonged the unrest in the North of Ireland, and of course on the mainland as well, leading to many atrocities and deaths on this side of the pond.
Sad though it is to say, I feel that the events of 9/11 brought home to the American public the horrors of war to their own doorstep . . . and understandably they didn't like it one bit. History shows us that after the horror of the Twin Towers, and the heightened public awareness in America, donations to the IRA, Provisional IRA et al began to dry up which in turn led (eventually) to a form of peace in Ulster.
The downside of course, is America's much vaunted ''War On Terror,'' which made a bad situation so much worse in the Middle East. And the irony of the situation is that we (the United Kingdom) assisted them.
Admin: If you consider this post to be too political (in the light of the removal of the Current Affairs section), then I will quite understand if you delete the post, but it was a genuine attempt on my part to bring my perspective to GasHeadGaz's thread.
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GasHeadGaz
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 11, 2014 19:29:25 GMT
To me it represents the end of the American public funding international terrorism themselves. Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public, largely the New England states in the North East of the country. Those donations prolonged the unrest in the North of Ireland, and of course on the mainland as well, leading to many atrocities and deaths on this side of the pond. Sad though it is to say, I feel that the events of 9/11 brought home to the American public the horrors of war to their own doorstep . . . and understandably they didn't like it one bit. History shows us that after the horror of the Twin Towers, and the heightened public awareness in America, donations to the IRA, Provisional IRA et al began to dry up which in turn led (eventually) to a form of peace in Ulster. The downside of course, is America's much vaunted ''War On Terror,'' which made a bad situation so much worse in the Middle East. And the irony of the situation is that we (the United Kingdom) assisted them. Admin: If you consider this post to be too political (in the light of the removal of the Current Affairs section), then I will quite understand if you delete the post, but it was a genuine attempt on my part to bring my perspective to GasHeadGaz's thread. "Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public" Agree with this. Prior to 9/11 they happily let Gerry Adams in & fund raise for the IRA, yet after they want the entire world to "help in the fight against terrorism" What about before it happened..? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 19:58:38 GMT
Can we just talk about the defeat to Birmingham please?
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brizzle
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Post by brizzle on Sept 12, 2014 12:00:48 GMT
Can we just talk about the defeat to Birmingham please? My apologies to you chewbacca, if you felt that my post was inappropriate. But as I have said previously it was a genuine attempt on my part to bring my perspective to GasHeadGaz's thread. As both of us included an option in our post for the forum moderator to either move or delete our posts, which they clearly decided not to do, then I felt that we were OK. But clearly not with at least one member, although I did notice that my post received a thumbs up from another poster, so at least someone else appreciated it eh? Perhaps it's a shame that we don't have a thumbs down, perhaps someone like yourself could propose it. Anyway as you say, back to the Birmingham defeat . . . didn't we lose 0-3? |
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LJG
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Post by LJG on Sept 12, 2014 12:13:14 GMT
To me it represents the end of the American public funding international terrorism themselves. Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public, largely the New England states in the North East of the country. Those donations prolonged the unrest in the North of Ireland, and of course on the mainland as well, leading to many atrocities and deaths on this side of the pond. Sad though it is to say, I feel that the events of 9/11 brought home to the American public the horrors of war to their own doorstep . . . and understandably they didn't like it one bit. History shows us that after the horror of the Twin Towers, and the heightened public awareness in America, donations to the IRA, Provisional IRA et al began to dry up which in turn led (eventually) to a form of peace in Ulster. The downside of course, is America's much vaunted ''War On Terror,'' which made a bad situation so much worse in the Middle East. And the irony of the situation is that we (the United Kingdom) assisted them. Admin: If you consider this post to be too political (in the light of the removal of the Current Affairs section), then I will quite understand if you delete the post, but it was a genuine attempt on my part to bring my perspective to GasHeadGaz's thread. "Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public" Agree with this. Prior to 9/11 they happily let Gerry Adams in & fund raise for the IRA, yet after they want the entire world to "help in the fight against terrorism" What about before it happened..? Who are "They" and what terrorist activity has Gerry Adams been proven to be linked with? And where is the "in" that "they" were letting him? |
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GasHeadGaz
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 12, 2014 21:45:58 GMT
"Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public" Agree with this. Prior to 9/11 they happily let Gerry Adams in & fund raise for the IRA, yet after they want the entire world to "help in the fight against terrorism" What about before it happened..? Who are "They" and what terrorist activity has Gerry Adams been proven to be linked with? And where is the "in" that "they" were letting him? Have a look at my post again, all the answers you want are there, it's not difficult. *HINT* In my post there is a copied sentence... *HINT* It's the first sentence... *HINT* Have a look here... www.nytimes.com/1995/03/10/world/clinton-to-permit-fund-raising-in-the-us-by-top-ira-figure.html |
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Post by mrgas on Sept 12, 2014 22:58:20 GMT
To me it represents the end of the American public funding international terrorism themselves. Prior to 9/11 the unrest in Ulster was partially funded by public donations from the American public, largely the New England states in the North East of the country. Those donations prolonged the unrest in the North of Ireland, and of course on the mainland as well, leading to many atrocities and deaths on this side of the pond. Sad though it is to say, I feel that the events of 9/11 brought home to the American public the horrors of war to their own doorstep . . . and understandably they didn't like it one bit. History shows us that after the horror of the Twin Towers, and the heightened public awareness in America, donations to the IRA, Provisional IRA et al began to dry up which in turn led (eventually) to a form of peace in Ulster. The downside of course, is America's much vaunted ''War On Terror,'' which made a bad situation so much worse in the Middle East. And the irony of the situation is that we (the United Kingdom) assisted them. Admin: If you consider this post to be too political (in the light of the removal of the Current Affairs section), then I will quite understand if you delete the post, but it was a genuine attempt on my part to bring my perspective to GasHeadGaz's thread. " the end of the American public funding international terrorism themselves" Wow. To me it signals a whole new wave of US funding of, and engagement in, worldwide terrorism. |
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LJG
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Post by LJG on Sept 13, 2014 7:38:39 GMT
When has Gerry Adams been proven to have been involved with the IRA? *HINT* He hasn't. |
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 13, 2014 8:51:45 GMT
MOD ACTION: Non Rovers related topic so set to fall.
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GasHeadGaz
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 13, 2014 8:54:05 GMT
When has Gerry Adams been proven to have been involved with the IRA? *HINT* He hasn't. Gerry Adams was the political leader of the IRA, if that isn't proof enough that someone is involved with something I don't know what is. It's like saying Davis Cameron hasnt been involved with The Conservative Party, which is just stupid. |
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Sept 13, 2014 9:20:18 GMT
When has Gerry Adams been proven to have been involved with the IRA? *HINT* He hasn't. Gerry Adams was the political leader of the IRA, if that isn't proof enough that someone is involved with something I don't know what is. It's like saying Davis Cameron hasnt been involved with The Conservative Party, which is just stupid. SinnFein and IRA are actually different organisations, so it wouldbe more like saying Cameron wasn't involved with the 1922 commitee. Pedantic Gas  |
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GasHeadGaz
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 13, 2014 9:29:48 GMT
Gerry Adams was the political leader of the IRA, if that isn't proof enough that someone is involved with something I don't know what is. It's like saying Davis Cameron hasnt been involved with The Conservative Party, which is just stupid. SinnFein and IRA are actually different organisations, so it wouldbe more like saying Cameron wasn't involved with the 1922 commitee. Pedantic Gas "SinnFein and IRA are actually different organisations" Not quite, SinnFein is the political wing of The IRA, as such falls under the same umbrella of The IRA Even more pedantic Gas  Anyhow, this will be my last post on this thread before I get accused of "trolling". |
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Post by Rex on Sept 13, 2014 10:02:31 GMT
SinnFein and IRA are actually different organisations, so it wouldbe more like saying Cameron wasn't involved with the 1922 commitee. Pedantic Gas "SinnFein and IRA are actually different organisations" Not quite, SinnFein is the political wing of The IRA, as such falls under the same umbrella of The IRA Even more pedantic Gas Anyhow, this will be my last post on this thread before I get accused of "trolling". And as such is actually a different organisation, albeit they are linked.
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