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Post by Isaac Hunt on Sept 7, 2014 9:43:01 GMT
That's exactly what sacking Darrel Clarke is like. Is it purely coincidence that we've had a string of 'crap' managers or is there more to it?
Alex Ferguson would fail at Rovers. Those bullets are aimed in the wrong office.
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Post by LJG on Sept 7, 2014 11:40:48 GMT
Why do we have to hear the same old bollocks? No Alex Fergason would not fail at Rovers he has contacts and tactical nouse. Clarke has neither. Yes the footballing structure needs total overhaul at the club with a scouting network and reserve setup - we all acknowledge that and it needs to happen with better leadership at the top and include the business side but to use that to excuse a crap manager is just nonsense - the board didn't play our top goalscorer in a defensive position against Mansfield did they? The board don't tell the team to play with no discernible shape and lump the ball forward route one do they?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 7, 2014 12:00:03 GMT
Not sure what to think anymore as the OP does have a point about so many managers failing?
What message were our BoD sending to the players yesterday by all, apparently, failing to watch the game?
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Sept 7, 2014 12:30:59 GMT
Why do we have to hear the same old bollocks? No Alex Fergason would not fail at Rovers he has contacts and tactical nouse. Clarke has neither. Yes the footballing structure needs total overhaul at the club with a scouting network and reserve setup - we all acknowledge that and it needs to happen with better leadership at the top and include the business side but to use that to excuse a crap manager is just nonsense - the board didn't play our top goalscorer in a defensive position against Mansfield did they? The board don't tell the team to play with no discernible shape and lump the ball forward route one do they? Are you seriously saying Higgs and the board are blameless for the position on BRFC!? Good god!  |
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Post by LJG on Sept 7, 2014 12:36:46 GMT
Why do we have to hear the same old bollocks? No Alex Fergason would not fail at Rovers he has contacts and tactical nouse. Clarke has neither. Yes the footballing structure needs total overhaul at the club with a scouting network and reserve setup - we all acknowledge that and it needs to happen with better leadership at the top and include the business side but to use that to excuse a crap manager is just nonsense - the board didn't play our top goalscorer in a defensive position against Mansfield did they? The board don't tell the team to play with no discernible shape and lump the ball forward route one do they? Are you seriously saying Higgs and the board are blameless for the position on BRFC!? Good god! Where does it say that in my post? Or does it in fact say precisely the opposite of that? |
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Sept 7, 2014 12:56:02 GMT
Are you seriously saying Higgs and the board are blameless for the position on BRFC!? Good god! Where does it say that in my post? Or does it in fact say precisely the opposite of that? Well you contradicted your statements a couple of times so wasn't entirely sure? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 13:21:56 GMT
The board are culpable in the appointment of managers and the running of the club.
The manager is also blameworthy inasmuch as he signs the players,picks the team and decides the tactics.
The players are equally to blame in that they fail to perform to a standard required of a professional footballer in that if you are not playing well the least you can do is put in a shift,
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Post by LJG on Sept 7, 2014 18:27:55 GMT
Where does it say that in my post? Or does it in fact say precisely the opposite of that? Well you contradicted your statements a couple of times so wasn't entirely sure? Don't think I did. I think my message is pretty clear: wholesale change needed at the club, granted but that shouldn't be used to excuse a clueless, contactless manager. |
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Post by Somerset Blue on Sept 7, 2014 18:35:07 GMT
Fans are just as guilty ... turning up on the ward with flowers and grapes .... you need to be in the morgue paying your respects....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 18:40:37 GMT
Fans are just as guilty ... turning up on the ward with flowers and grapes .... you need to be in the morgue paying your respects.... The more that people carry on going the more they get away with it. It's sad but it's the only thing that will make them take notice. Of course it will never happen and we will carry on spiralling downwards. |
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Post by topgashead on Sept 7, 2014 21:49:20 GMT
That's exactly what sacking Darrel Clarke is like. Is it purely coincidence that we've had a string of 'crap' managers or is there more to it? Alex Ferguson would fail at Rovers. Those bullets are aimed in the wrong office. I had the exact same thought the other day. Whilst I really do not believe that DC is the right man (more of a boy I would say) for the job, I don't see that sacking him is the way forward. The same board that appointed the last several managers is clearly not competent in selecting the right person for the job. As someone else said, they don't have a vision/plan (or at least they don't seem to) their style seems to reflect that more of our style of play- hit and hope, apart from they seem to be kicking the wrong way and consistently scoring own goals..... Whoever they appoint would just fail as their predecessors did before them. |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 7, 2014 21:59:10 GMT
6 managers and 2 caretakers in the past 9 years.
But let's just sack DC, I'm SURE the next one will be a massive success.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 22:08:36 GMT
its a difficult situation but we have several games in a short space of time so that will be the crunch for dc,its obvious that say 4 defeats in 6 games will get him the sack,but 4 wins will give him breathing space
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Post by irishrover on Sept 7, 2014 22:54:58 GMT
The board are culpable in the appointment of managers and the running of the club. The manager is also blameworthy inasmuch as he signs the players,picks the team and decides the tactics. The players are equally to blame in that they fail to perform to a standard required of a professional footballer in that if you are not playing well the least you can do is put in a shift, I basically agree with that. But on the players - I haven't been able to see us play yet this season apart from on the telly so I can't comment on effort etc but if the player is not good enough for the level that's not his fault is it? I mean obviously if you have a set of players who should be doing better and aren't putting in the effort it's their fault but if they're just not good enough then it seems a bit unfair to blame them. For me it's the difference between Ian Holloway's team that ultimately got relegated (full of players of good pedigree who for whatever reason played in a thoroughly unmotivated way) and Ray Graydon's lot who were just flat out useless in the main (and in fact very few stayed in the league after leaving us). I mean you couldn't question the efforts of Paul Tait, Rob Quinn etc, they just weren't up to the standard required. I have no idea which of those applies to our current team but I'm open minded that it could be either - it's not as though we've gone out and signed a load of proven higher level performers. |
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Post by dublingas on Sept 7, 2014 23:07:15 GMT
Hey Irish Rover, are you Irish following the Rovers or Bristolian in Ireland? I'm the latter, was thinking I was the only one
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