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Post by baselswh on Nov 18, 2024 19:11:16 GMT
The Reform Party are going ahead with a private prosecution to see justice served on the Muslim thugs, from the Manchester Airport incident.
Determined to fight back against Labours and 2TK ,two tier policing system.
I am sure Farage and Reform will recieve overwhelming support from Britons.
Great stuff from Reform!
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Post by oldie on Nov 18, 2024 20:12:49 GMT
Vote Desperate Dan
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 18, 2024 22:24:14 GMT
The Reform Party are going ahead with a private prosecution to see justice served on the Muslim thugs, from the Manchester Airport incident. Determined to fight back against Labours and 2TK ,two tier policing system. I am sure Farage and Reform will recieve overwhelming support from Britons. Great stuff from Reform! Prosecutions are nothing to do with the Government, Kier Starmer or Labour. It is up to the Police and CPS. They are operating under the laws set by the previous administrations. Perhaps you should point your anger in that direction. It won't be good if Reform end up damaging the process but let's see how they get on. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 19, 2024 5:38:10 GMT
The Reform Party are going ahead with a private prosecution to see justice served on the Muslim thugs, from the Manchester Airport incident. Determined to fight back against Labours and 2TK ,two tier policing system. I am sure Farage and Reform will recieve overwhelming support from Britons. Great stuff from Reform! Prosecutions are nothing to do with the Government, Kier Starmer or Labour. It is up to the Police and CPS. They are operating under the laws set by the previous administrations. Perhaps you should point your anger in that direction. It won't be good if Reform end up damaging the process but let's see how they get on. There's been a cover up,rumours abound ( Southport murders,'not a Muslim terrorist' ). "Refugees welcome" Cooper. 2TK ,hero of some right b'stard illegals. We'll see. Unless 2TK polit buro police manage to silence the truth. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 19, 2024 8:35:45 GMT
2008 ,a male from Congo arrives illegally in the UK and applies for asylum.
A few years later his case is heard and as he has now fathered a child,he is allowed to stay.
2020.He gets 3 years for sexually assaulting his step daughter and two of her cousins.
3 years later he's out of prison. We still can't deport him because of his human right to have a family.
Section 8,ECHR.
He is going back to the very same house that the stepdaughter he sexually assaulted lives.
This is one stark reminder of why we must leave the ECHR.
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Post by baldrick on Nov 19, 2024 8:42:08 GMT
2008 ,a male from Congo arrives illegally in the UK and applies for asylum. A few years later his case is heard and as he has now fathered a child,he is allowed to stay. 2020.He gets 3 years for sexually assaulting his step daughter and two of her cousins. 3 years later he's out of prison. We still can't deport him because of his human right to have a family. Section 8,ECHR. He is going back to the very same house that the stepdaughter he sexually assaulted lives. This is one stark reminder of why we must leave the ECHR. So you want to remove the right to a family or a family to have a parent? |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 19, 2024 8:44:18 GMT
2008 ,a male from Congo arrives illegally in the UK and applies for asylum. A few years later his case is heard and as he has now fathered a child,he is allowed to stay. 2020.He gets 3 years for sexually assaulting his step daughter and two of her cousins. 3 years later he's out of prison. We still can't deport him because of his human right to have a family. Section 8,ECHR. He is going back to the very same house that the stepdaughter he sexually assaulted lives. This is one stark reminder of why we must leave the ECHR. So you want to remove the right to a family or a family to have a parent? In this case I would of thrown him out of the UK sharpish.Then he could of had a family ( poor people ) somewhere else. |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 19, 2024 8:46:33 GMT
Lee Anderson slams city for giving asylum seekers free bus passes while locals pay..by Ciaran McGrath i2-prod.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/article8165393.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_LeeAnderson.jpgAscheme enabling asylum seekers to use free bus travel for which UK citizens are expected to fork out £4.50 a day has been branded an "insult" by Reform UK MP Lee Anderson. The pilot project provides free bus day-passes to asylum seekers in Oxford, enabling them to travel within the city's SmartZone. Supported by Asylum Welcome, Citizens UK and Oxfordshire County Council, the initiative aims to help asylum seekers attend appointments, take classes, access museums and libraries and integrate into the local community. The Oxford Bus Company distributed the first 120 free passes this week to asylum seekers living in hotel accommodation - leaving Mr Anderson, the MP for Ashfield in Nottinghamshire, deeply unimpressed. He told Express.co.uk: "This is an insult to British taxpayers. "When taxes are at an all time high and the cost of living crisis is being felt by everyone, we now see asylum seekers getting free travel. "British taxpayers should come first. There is a simple way to stop the excess spending on things like this and hotels and that's by stopping the boats once and for all. "Successive Labour and Tory government's have failed to get a grip of this issue. "Only Reform UK are prepared to pick up and return the boats to France as allowed under UN Convention of Law at Sea." William Yarwood, media campaign manager at the TaxPayers' Alliance, was also highly sceptical about the idea: "Oxford residents will be driven round the bend that illegal immigrants are getting preferential treatment. "While others have to pay for their bus passes, asylum seekers are getting a free ride thanks to taxpayers' cash. "Government ministers need to rapidly speed up the asylum system and ensure those that do not belong here are removed." Speaking to the Oxford Mail, recipients have said the scheme has transformed their lives. One, Habib, said: "I like Oxford city, and I want to make my future in Oxford." Another, Ghaniyat, added, "I will never forget this kindness for the rest of my life. I appreciate it deeply." Bishop of Oxford, Steven Croft has spoken out in support, calling the scheme "a tangible sign of welcome from our whole community." An Oxfordshire County Council spokesman told Express.co.uk: "Asylum seekers have just £9 a week, which means they can't afford bus fares. "This is one small thing we can do support asylum seekers who are awaiting the outcome of their asylum claim. It will enable them to prepare for work by accessing services and learning to adapt to life in Oxfordshire." They added: "This will promote and enable integration and help the individuals in question build connections with local people. "It would also assist them in the longer term to become economically active and contribute to the community in which they live." Asylum Welcome and the Oxford Bus Company have been approached for comment.
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Post by baldrick on Nov 19, 2024 8:47:15 GMT
So you want to remove the right to a family or a family to have a parent? In this case I would of thrown him out of the UK sharpish.Then he could of had a family ( poor people ) somewhere else. Leaving this case to one side, you would remove the Right to a family in a hypothetical British Bill of Rights? Yes or no? |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 19, 2024 8:50:57 GMT
In this case I would of thrown him out of the UK sharpish.Then he could of had a family ( poor people ) somewhere else. Leaving this case to one side, you would remove the Right to a family in a hypothetical British Bill of Rights? Yes or no? No,I'm not leaving this case to one side. |
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Post by baldrick on Nov 19, 2024 8:53:14 GMT
Leaving this case to one side, you would remove the Right to a family in a hypothetical British Bill of Rights? Yes or no? No,I'm not leaving this case to one side. Okay, based on what you wrote I agree he deserves to be deported. Now, which rights that currently exist will you remove? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 19, 2024 8:54:07 GMT
In this case I would of thrown him out of the UK sharpish.Then he could of had a family ( poor people ) somewhere else. Leaving this case to one side, you would remove the Right to a family in a hypothetical British Bill of Rights? Yes or no? What about the 'rights' of the step daughter, who was sexually abused? Maybe, just maybe, the convicted criminal should have taken his 'right to a family life' into consideration before committing his crimes? |
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Post by baldrick on Nov 19, 2024 8:57:39 GMT
Leaving this case to one side, you would remove the Right to a family in a hypothetical British Bill of Rights? Yes or no? What about the 'rights' of the step daughter, who was sexually abused? Maybe, just maybe, the convicted criminal should have taken his 'right to a family life' into consideration before committing his crimes? I agree, but it's the interpretation of the law rather than the law itself. Bas wants to leave the ECHR but won't explain how it would be different with a British Bill of Rights instead. Other countries manage it, and as Oldie and Cheshire pointed out recently, we manage it too. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 19, 2024 9:33:34 GMT
What about the 'rights' of the step daughter, who was sexually abused? Maybe, just maybe, the convicted criminal should have taken his 'right to a family life' into consideration before committing his crimes? I agree, but it's the interpretation of the law rather than the law itself. Bas wants to leave the ECHR but won't explain how it would be different with a British Bill of Rights instead. Other countries manage it, and as Oldie and Cheshire pointed out recently, we manage it too. Leave ECHR. Write our own rules. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 19, 2024 9:38:18 GMT
I agree, but it's the interpretation of the law rather than the law itself. Bas wants to leave the ECHR but won't explain how it would be different with a British Bill of Rights instead. Other countries manage it, and as Oldie and Cheshire pointed out recently, we manage it too. Leave ECHR. Write our own rules. And what would some of those rules be? |
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Post by baldrick on Nov 19, 2024 9:39:04 GMT
I agree, but it's the interpretation of the law rather than the law itself. Bas wants to leave the ECHR but won't explain how it would be different with a British Bill of Rights instead. Other countries manage it, and as Oldie and Cheshire pointed out recently, we manage it too. Leave ECHR. Write our own rules. Which rules? Can you name the Rights we have under ECHR and which ones you'd change or lose? |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 19, 2024 9:47:05 GMT
These are the headline rights. Others set out how the Court works. Which ones would you remove? The first one I presume as you would have to do that if you don't respect all human rights. 5, 9, 10, 14?
Article 1 - Obligation to respect human rights
States must ensure that everyone has the rights stated in this Convention.
Article 2 - Right to life
You have the right to life.
Article 3 - Prohibition of torture
No one ever has the right to hurt you or torture you. Even in detention your human dignity has to be respected.
Article 4 - Prohibition of slavery and forced labour
It is prohibited to treat you as a slave or to impose forced labour on you.
Article 5 - Right to liberty and security
You have the right to liberty. If you are arrested you have the right to know why. If you are arrested you have the right to stand trial soon, or to be released until the trial takes place.
Article 6 - Right to a fair trial
You have the right to a fair trial before an unbiased and independent judge. If you are accused of having committed a crime, you are innocent until proved guilty. You have the right to be assisted by a lawyer who has to be paid by the state if you are poor.
Article 7 - No punishment without law
You cannot be held guilty of a crime if there was no law against it when you did it.
Article 8 - Right to respect for private and family life
You have the right to respect for your private and family life, your home and correspondence.
Article 9 - Freedom of thought, conscience and religion
You have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. You have the right to practise your religion at home and in public and to change your religion if you want.
Article 10 - Freedom of expression
You have the right to responsibly say and write what you think and to give and receive information from others. This includes freedom of the press.
Article 11 - Freedom of assembly and association
You have the right to take part in peaceful meetings and to set up or join associations including trade unions.
Article 12 - Right to marry
You have the right to marry and to have a family.
Article 13 - Right to an effective remedy
If your rights are violated, you can complain about this officially to the courts or other public bodies.
Article 14 - Prohibition of discrimination
You have these rights regardless of your skin colour, sex, language, political or religious beliefs, or origins.
Article 15 - Derogation in time of emergency
In time of war or other public emergency, a government may do things which go against your rights, but only when strictly necessary. Even then, governments are not allowed, for example, to torture you or to kill you arbitrarily.
Article 16 - Restrictions on political activity of aliens
Governments may restrict the political activity of foreigners, even if this would be in conflict with Articles 10, 11 or 14.
Article 17 - Prohibition of abuse of rights
Nothing in this Convention can be used to damage the rights and freedoms in the Convention.
Article 18 - Limitation on use of restrictions of rights
Most of the rights in this Convention can be restricted by a general law which is applied to everyone. Such restrictions are only allowed if they are strictly necessary.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 19, 2024 9:49:56 GMT
Leaving this case to one side, you would remove the Right to a family in a hypothetical British Bill of Rights? Yes or no? What about the 'rights' of the step daughter, who was sexually abused? Maybe, just maybe, the convicted criminal should have taken his 'right to a family life' into consideration before committing his crimes? Of course she has rights. I agree he should either have been deported or banned from contact with her and she should be afforded protection under the law? The case cannot be used to discriminate against all refugees who some, including people on here, consider to be thugs, rapists and murderers. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 19, 2024 11:06:00 GMT
What about the 'rights' of the step daughter, who was sexually abused? Maybe, just maybe, the convicted criminal should have taken his 'right to a family life' into consideration before committing his crimes? Of course she has rights. I agree he should either have been deported or banned from contact with her and she should be afforded protection under the law? The case cannot be used to discriminate against all refugees who some, including people on here, consider to be thugs, rapists and murderers. When illegal immigrants have a high percentage of people that commit crime,then Britons have every right to not trust them and not want them here. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 19, 2024 15:46:41 GMT
Of course she has rights. I agree he should either have been deported or banned from contact with her and she should be afforded protection under the law? The case cannot be used to discriminate against all refugees who some, including people on here, consider to be thugs, rapists and murderers. When illegal immigrants have a high percentage of people that commit crime,then Britons have every right to not trust them and not want them here. Misuse of the term high |
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