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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 17, 2024 8:18:50 GMT
Still not 100%, fallen out with someone, made of glass, anyone know?
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 17, 2024 10:09:27 GMT
Latter would be my guess. Good player with a bit of creative quality when fit, but like Ward not consistently fit for long enough. Also susceptible against anyone with a bit of pace
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Post by alftupper on Sept 17, 2024 10:33:13 GMT
Latter would be my guess. Good player with a bit of creative quality when fit, but like Ward not consistently fit for long enough. Also susceptible against anyone with a bit of pace Agreed. Decent player attacking down the wing, gets good crosses into the box, and chips in with a few goals. Not the best defensively, and somewhat injury prone. He managed to injure himself, stretching to score against Plymuff in the pre season friendly.
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 17, 2024 11:38:47 GMT
Latter would be my guess. Good player with a bit of creative quality when fit, but like Ward not consistently fit for long enough. Also susceptible against anyone with a bit of pace Like a number of our past (Brian Gayle, Jamie Shore) and present (Rossiter, Ward) players, he wouldn't be playing for us if he didn't have fitness issues. All players at this level have weaknesses in their game, which is also why they are here. Hayles struggled with one-on-one chances when he went to Fulham, Roberts wasn't great at heading, and Stewart lacked pace - however, you could argue that the other aspects of his game were as good as they were because he had to compensate for this. Hunt is as good a right-back as you are going to get in this division, and for my money is ideally suited to the wing-back role. Hunt down the right, and Sousa down the left is a no-brainer for me.
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 17, 2024 11:40:37 GMT
Latter would be my guess. Good player with a bit of creative quality when fit, but like Ward not consistently fit for long enough. Also susceptible against anyone with a bit of pace Agreed. Decent player attacking down the wing, gets good crosses into the box, and chips in with a few goals. Not the best defensively, and somewhat injury prone. He managed to injure himself, stretching to score against Plymuff in the pre season friendly. He made his name as an attacking full-back, not a defensive one. The wing-back system is ideally suited to him.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 18, 2024 18:14:17 GMT
Latter would be my guess. Good player with a bit of creative quality when fit, but like Ward not consistently fit for long enough. Also susceptible against anyone with a bit of pace Like a number of our past (Brian Gayle, Jamie Shore) and present (Rossiter, Ward) players, he wouldn't be playing for us if he didn't have fitness issues. All players at this level have weaknesses in their game, which is also why they are here. Hayles struggled with one-on-one chances when he went to Fulham, Roberts wasn't great at heading, and Stewart lacked pace - however, you could argue that the other aspects of his game were as good as they were because he had to compensate for this. Hunt is as good a right-back as you are going to get in this division, and for my money is ideally suited to the wing-back role. Hunt down the right, and Sousa down the left is a no-brainer for me. Issue is that relying on him is disruptive. Has a run of games, team builds some understanding and rhythm and then the rest of the back 4/5 have to build new understandings with whoever replaces him. Plus you have to employ 2 players - one as cover for our glass warrior. Me - I’d prefer a player of (hopefully slightly) lesser ability but who you know you'll get 45+ games out of. Someone like Luca Hoole for example. They may even with games and time become as good as or better than Hunt. At 33 as well he is a short term rather than longer term fix. Plus if they are young they are less likely to get done for pace. We’ve had a couple of seasons like this with him so although he is a talented player when his contract is up that should be the end of his time here as a player
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 18, 2024 21:14:15 GMT
Like a number of our past (Brian Gayle, Jamie Shore) and present (Rossiter, Ward) players, he wouldn't be playing for us if he didn't have fitness issues. All players at this level have weaknesses in their game, which is also why they are here. Hayles struggled with one-on-one chances when he went to Fulham, Roberts wasn't great at heading, and Stewart lacked pace - however, you could argue that the other aspects of his game were as good as they were because he had to compensate for this. Hunt is as good a right-back as you are going to get in this division, and for my money is ideally suited to the wing-back role. Hunt down the right, and Sousa down the left is a no-brainer for me. Issue is that relying on him is disruptive. Has a run of games, team builds some understanding and rhythm and then the rest of the back 4/5 have to build new understandings with whoever replaces him. Plus you have to employ 2 players - one as cover for our glass warrior. Me - I’d prefer a player of (hopefully slightly) lesser ability but who you know you'll get 45+ games out of. Someone like Luca Hoole for example. They may even with games and time become as good as or better than Hunt. At 33 as well he is a short term rather than longer term fix. Plus if they are young they are less likely to get done for pace. We’ve had a couple of seasons like this with him so although he is a talented player when his contract is up that should be the end of his time here as a player based on that logic, he's an ideal (and high quality) squad player - as cover in the event of injury - but not a starter. Which might be where we are in fact
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 19, 2024 9:52:47 GMT
Like a number of our past (Brian Gayle, Jamie Shore) and present (Rossiter, Ward) players, he wouldn't be playing for us if he didn't have fitness issues. All players at this level have weaknesses in their game, which is also why they are here. Hayles struggled with one-on-one chances when he went to Fulham, Roberts wasn't great at heading, and Stewart lacked pace - however, you could argue that the other aspects of his game were as good as they were because he had to compensate for this. Hunt is as good a right-back as you are going to get in this division, and for my money is ideally suited to the wing-back role. Hunt down the right, and Sousa down the left is a no-brainer for me. Issue is that relying on him is disruptive. Has a run of games, team builds some understanding and rhythm and then the rest of the back 4/5 have to build new understandings with whoever replaces him. Plus you have to employ 2 players - one as cover for our glass warrior. Me - I’d prefer a player of (hopefully slightly) lesser ability but who you know you'll get 45+ games out of. Someone like Luca Hoole for example. They may even with games and time become as good as or better than Hunt. At 33 as well he is a short term rather than longer term fix. Plus if they are young they are less likely to get done for pace. We’ve had a couple of seasons like this with him so although he is a talented player when his contract is up that should be the end of his time here as a player I agree continuity is important at the back - my main preference has always been for CBs to play a lot of games together, on the Tillson and Clark model. However, outside of key positions (I would say the spine of the team (GK, CB, CM), you should be expecting players to come in and out of the team, as required. Hula Hoole didn't progress in the way hoped or anticipated, and I would question if he is D1 level. I think the best option would be to have an experienced pro and a younger understudy who will gradually be integrated into the team. I hoped this is what would happen with the somewhat raw Bilongo, but he seems to have been thrown in the deep end somewhat. Would it not be better to keep Hunt for when we play attacking formations, which will presumably be against the weaker teams in the division? Then alternate with a more defensive option for the tougher games, where a more defensive option would be better? I would also consider playing Hunt as a RM, not least because this is something I have done on Championship Manager to great effect. On injuries, I understand the logic of signing an aging player whose injuries and declining fitness levels can be managed (e.g., Gayle). I don't understand signing younger players who once played at a much higher level but who have repeatedly demonstrated their fitness will always let them down - Jamie Shore is a good example here, although you could also possibly throw in Derek Riordan and Gary Kenneth. Unfortunately their condition is only going to deteriorate, as they slide down the leagues.
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 19, 2024 9:57:58 GMT
Issue is that relying on him is disruptive. Has a run of games, team builds some understanding and rhythm and then the rest of the back 4/5 have to build new understandings with whoever replaces him. Plus you have to employ 2 players - one as cover for our glass warrior. Me - I’d prefer a player of (hopefully slightly) lesser ability but who you know you'll get 45+ games out of. Someone like Luca Hoole for example. They may even with games and time become as good as or better than Hunt. At 33 as well he is a short term rather than longer term fix. Plus if they are young they are less likely to get done for pace. We’ve had a couple of seasons like this with him so although he is a talented player when his contract is up that should be the end of his time here as a player based on that logic, he's an ideal (and high quality) squad player - as cover in the event of injury - but not a starter. Which might be where we are in fact The problem with having him as cover is that he is all too frequently injured himself! I was interested to see how just far up the ladder he had gone. On the basis of his unfortunate association with Trashton, I had always had him down as a lower-end championship player. In fact, he was actually a top-end championship player who was transferred to a PL side (Palace). I'm guessing that injuries have always been an issue for him?
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 19, 2024 12:39:58 GMT
Agree with your post above RITS.
AMPGs scenario is plausible. If that is the case the question then becomes one of how much of the wage bill is he taking up, are we getting good value from that and could we do better?
It’s clear to me that when fit Hunt has real quality going forward that would be a real asset to us. I just don’t think we have seen it often enough because of his injury record, and at 33 this is only going to get worse. Not one for the future sadly, though have enjoyed the occasional flashes of brilliance he has given us whilst here
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Post by lavalamp on Sept 19, 2024 15:13:07 GMT
From the Bristol Post on 12th September -
Jack Hunt hasn't featured yet this season having picked up a hamstring strain ahead of the campaign opener against Northampton Town a month ago. However, the right-back has been pictured in training and Taylor confirmed the 33-year-old has recovered from injury but it doesn't seem as though he'll be featuring any time soon, adding: "He's returned from injury. He's back training with the group. We don't expect him to feature in the near-future."
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 19, 2024 15:52:30 GMT
From the Bristol Post on 12th September - Jack Hunt hasn't featured yet this season having picked up a hamstring strain ahead of the campaign opener against Northampton Town a month ago. However, the right-back has been pictured in training and Taylor confirmed the 33-year-old has recovered from injury but it doesn't seem as though he'll be featuring any time soon, adding: "He's returned from injury. He's back training with the group. We don't expect him to feature in the near-future." On the basis of 'recovered', we are therefore led to the conclusion this is a managerial preference? So it seems we have Sotoriou and Forde off of Omochere with LT as RWB? Your call MT, but for me a better alternative would be Hunt as RWB with Thomas alternating with Sotoriou and Shaq Forde to ease their integration into the AM positions. Once this is achieved, LT's long-term contribution could be as a squad player - competing with Hutchinson for the deep-lying creative role between Conteh and Lindsay while being used interchangably with Sotoriou and Forde as-and-when-required. Or perhaps switching from wing-backs to 3-5-2, with Thomas playing as a RW? In any case, this seems to me to be a waste of, fitness permitting, one of the best attacking FBs in the division.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 24, 2024 11:50:08 GMT
My best mate works in Portishead at a place that Hunt visit's a couple of times a week, and they apparently have a decent rapport, and my mate asked Hunt joking why isn't he playing ATM and if he had fallen out with Taylor and he Hunt responded.." yeah something like that" ..
My mates a s**thead, so didn't want to be nosey and didn't press him any further.
Apparently, Hunt is a real nice guy.
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 24, 2024 12:46:06 GMT
My best mate works in Portishead at a place that Hunt visit's a couple of times a week, and they apparently have a decent rapport, and my mate asked Hunt joking why isn't he playing ATM and if he had fallen out with Taylor and he Hunt responded.." yeah something like that" .. My mates a s**thead, so didn't want to be nosey and didn't press him any further. Apparently, Hunt is a real nice guy. sounds like MT wants him off the wage bill?
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 24, 2024 13:24:13 GMT
Typically Rovers. Hunt is one of the better AWB’s in this division and we don’t want to play him, oooh the luxury of it all.
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 24, 2024 22:16:52 GMT
My best mate works in Portishead at a place that Hunt visit's a couple of times a week, and they apparently have a decent rapport, and my mate asked Hunt joking why isn't he playing ATM and if he had fallen out with Taylor and he Hunt responded.." yeah something like that" .. My mates a s**thead, so didn't want to be nosey and didn't press him any further. Apparently, Hunt is a real nice guy. Why do all the footballers for both Bristol clubs seem to orientate towards Portishead? The place seems to have an almost magnetic pull, in particular for the sh*thead players. They could afford to live in Bristol, Bath or South Glos surely?
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Post by Icegas on Sept 25, 2024 0:40:10 GMT
My best mate works in Portishead at a place that Hunt visit's a couple of times a week, and they apparently have a decent rapport, and my mate asked Hunt joking why isn't he playing ATM and if he had fallen out with Taylor and he Hunt responded.." yeah something like that" .. My mates a s**thead, so didn't want to be nosey and didn't press him any further. Apparently, Hunt is a real nice guy. Why do all the footballers for both Bristol clubs seem to orientate towards Portishead? The place seems to have an almost magnetic pull, in particular for the sh*thead players. They could afford to live in Bristol, Bath or South Glos surely? Portishead is not my cup of tea, but it is nice and by the sea. The place my mate works at,I've seen Matty Taylor ( The snake), Ollie Clarke and Chris Lines in there over the years. I guess in particular for City players it makes sense given where their training base is, plus Ashton. 15/20 mins away. I know many Rovers players have rented over Emersons green way over the past decade. I guess you are asking for trouble if you are a player from either side living in Bristol now a day's, so I guess why Portishead is a safe option. You don't see any scrotes, trouble makers or anything like that there.Its peaceful, but I find it dull.I only go there to catch up with my mate.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 25, 2024 2:17:18 GMT
Lived in Emerson’s, Cureton rented a few door’s down from me, also Steve Foster and a few others around that time, I often saw them as a group in the Bar at the Beefeater in Emerson’s. Your intel correct icegas, don’t know about these day’s but guess must still be popular as Mem & Quarters not far away.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 25, 2024 3:42:15 GMT
Lived in Emerson’s, Cureton rented a few door’s down from me, also Steve Foster and a few others around that time, I often saw them as a group in the Bar at the Beefeater in Emerson’s. Your intel correct icegas, don’t know about these day’s but guess must still be popular as Mem & Quarters not far away. I've seen, and know that Liam Sercombe lived at Emersons, I think he still does given his Cheltenham, and now Forest green moves. Billy Clark use to rent a room off my best mates parents in Horfield back in the late 80's... my friend's family are s**theads so that was fun!
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