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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 7:28:18 GMT
Jenas says he takes full responsibility and no one else is to blame bla bla bla. He then goes on to say the texts were between two consenting adults. If that's the case then surely no one is to blame. They must have swapped telephone numbers at some point. Can't see he has done anything wrong (at this stage) other than morally to his wife and family. Pity the BBC weren't so quick to sack the likes of Edwards, Saville and all the others. Actually I agree. He is probably just a dickhead, but such is the torrent of abuse the BBC gets it appears they feel compelled to (over) react. All a bit sad really and with all the terrible things going on in this world, hardly newsworthy I would suggest Really ? you dont take someone making offensive texts to women very seriously ? you called one of my posts 'misogynistic' and you bang on about Andrew Tate so what makes Jermaine Jenas so special ?
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Post by oldie on Aug 25, 2024 9:42:05 GMT
Actually I agree. He is probably just a dickhead, but such is the torrent of abuse the BBC gets it appears they feel compelled to (over) react. All a bit sad really and with all the terrible things going on in this world, hardly newsworthy I would suggest Really ? you dont take someone making offensive texts to women very seriously ? you called one of my posts 'misogynistic' and you bang on about Andrew Tate so what makes Jermaine Jenas so special ? You really think flirting with members of the opposite sex is misogyny? Equivalent to the charges laid against Andrew Tate? Really? If Jenas was continuously harassing these women then that's a different thing altogether and is actually an offence.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 25, 2024 16:27:55 GMT
That wont be happening so either report the posts or ignore them,i will be posting what i like as long as it doesnt break forum rules. Okay. If the name-calling and personal abuse does not stop then this section will be closed down. It is only down to Cheshire that it exists at all. I don't read or monitor it. I said I would cover "Reports" while he is away. So please re-read what he had had to say.
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 19:07:14 GMT
If the name-calling and personal abuse does not stop then this section will be closed down. It is only down to Cheshire that it exists at all. I don't read or monitor it. I said I would cover "Reports" while he is away. So please re-read what he had had to say. As long as theres consistency over the name calling and abuse accusations thats fine, if not maybe the section should be closed down.
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 19:19:35 GMT
Really ? you dont take someone making offensive texts to women very seriously ? you called one of my posts 'misogynistic' and you bang on about Andrew Tate so what makes Jermaine Jenas so special ? You really think flirting with members of the opposite sex is misogyny? Equivalent to the charges laid against Andrew Tate? Really? If Jenas was continuously harassing these women then that's a different thing altogether and is actually an offence. You must have left the workplace in the 80s if you think that flirting with work colleagues is acceptable behaviour,HR love people like you, those days are long gone same as Benny Hill, Dick Emery etc. Sid the sexist in Viz was a joke character not a role model.
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Post by oldie on Aug 25, 2024 19:29:02 GMT
You really think flirting with members of the opposite sex is misogyny? Equivalent to the charges laid against Andrew Tate? Really? If Jenas was continuously harassing these women then that's a different thing altogether and is actually an offence. You must have left the workplace in the 80s if you think that flirting with work colleagues is acceptable behaviour,HR love people like you, those days are long gone same as Benny Hill, Dick Emery etc. Sid the sexist in Viz was a joke character not a role model. Ahhh...I guess that no work colleague ever has a date with another...never happens...I see
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 25, 2024 19:30:54 GMT
You really think flirting with members of the opposite sex is misogyny? Equivalent to the charges laid against Andrew Tate? Really? If Jenas was continuously harassing these women then that's a different thing altogether and is actually an offence. You must have left the workplace in the 80s if you think that flirting with work colleagues is acceptable behaviour,HR love people like you, those days are long gone same as Benny Hill, Dick Emery etc. Sid the sexist in Viz was a joke character not a role model. Even in the woke NHS there's plenty of flirting, and more. It's like Carry on Nursing in some teams still. Same in teaching. I can't believe it's much different in most professions
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 19:35:22 GMT
You must have left the workplace in the 80s if you think that flirting with work colleagues is acceptable behaviour,HR love people like you, those days are long gone same as Benny Hill, Dick Emery etc. Sid the sexist in Viz was a joke character not a role model. Even in the woke NHS there's plenty of flirting, and more. It's like Carry on Nursing in some teams still. Same in teaching. I can't believe it's much different in most professions All fine until someone complains, and yes it is very different in other workplaces. Only this week Newcastle uni were complaining about people beiing called 'pet' we were getting dont call people 'my love' 25 years ago,I dont ever say it and i find 'i aint your love' stops it pretty quickly.
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 19:37:32 GMT
You must have left the workplace in the 80s if you think that flirting with work colleagues is acceptable behaviour,HR love people like you, those days are long gone same as Benny Hill, Dick Emery etc. Sid the sexist in Viz was a joke character not a role model. Ahhh...I guess that no work colleague ever has a date with another...never happens...I see Of course it happens but if the attention is unwanted something else happens,like HR getting involved and you looking for a new job, you must have left the workplace a long time ago surely ?
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 25, 2024 19:45:10 GMT
Even in the woke NHS there's plenty of flirting, and more. It's like Carry on Nursing in some teams still. Same in teaching. I can't believe it's much different in most professions All fine until someone complains, and yes it is very different in other workplaces. Only this week Newcastle uni were complaining about people beiing called 'pet' we were getting dont call people 'my love' 25 years ago,I dont ever say it and i find 'i aint your love' stops it pretty quickly. Having a Union helps probably, people tend to get moved rather than sacked unless it's abusive. You won't stop people flirting and i won't believe it doesn't happen in most trades. Men and Women in each others company 40hrs a week find common interests, have relationships and sometimes marry. It's worked for me 🙂
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Post by oldie on Aug 25, 2024 20:04:46 GMT
All fine until someone complains, and yes it is very different in other workplaces. Only this week Newcastle uni were complaining about people beiing called 'pet' we were getting dont call people 'my love' 25 years ago,I dont ever say it and i find 'i aint your love' stops it pretty quickly. Having a Union helps probably, people tend to get moved rather than sacked unless it's abusive. You won't stop people flirting and i won't believe it doesn't happen in most trades. Men and Women in each others company 40hrs a week find common interests, have relationships and sometimes marry. It's worked for me 🙂 My point exactly Pop Up.
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 20:05:36 GMT
All fine until someone complains, and yes it is very different in other workplaces. Only this week Newcastle uni were complaining about people beiing called 'pet' we were getting dont call people 'my love' 25 years ago,I dont ever say it and i find 'i aint your love' stops it pretty quickly. Having a Union helps probably, people tend to get moved rather than sacked unless it's abusive. You won't stop people flirting and i won't believe it doesn't happen in most trades. Men and Women in each others company 40hrs a week find common interests, have relationships and sometimes marry. It's worked for me 🙂 Google sexual harassment in the NHS,I just did and the figures are unbelievably high,women doctors being sexually abused as they are operating,might explain why my last lot of stitches arent very straight. A relatives girlfriend told me that a new ambulance driver made inappropriate remarks to her and other female workers and he was sacked before his probation period was over. The thing is with flirting its ok if the other person feels the same if they dont and they report unwanted attention/inappropriate behaviour its a disciplinary offence,I have seen it happen several times never happened to me, I have been reported for being 'rude' many times,I always say that I never swore and I was just being straight...never had any comebacks from management for that.
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Post by oldie on Aug 25, 2024 20:08:01 GMT
"I have been reported for being 'rude' many times,I always say that I never swore and I was just being straight...never had any comebacks from management for that."
Life on Mars 😂😂
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 20:11:59 GMT
"I have been reported for being 'rude' many times,I always say that I never swore and I was just being straight...never had any comebacks from management for that." Life on Mars 😂😂 Its absolutely true and I have been in the workplace a lot more recently than you no doubt.
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 25, 2024 20:22:03 GMT
Having a Union helps probably, people tend to get moved rather than sacked unless it's abusive. You won't stop people flirting and i won't believe it doesn't happen in most trades. Men and Women in each others company 40hrs a week find common interests, have relationships and sometimes marry. It's worked for me 🙂 Google sexual harassment in the NHS,I just did and the figures are unbelievably high,women doctors being sexually abused as they are operating,might explain why my last lot of stitches arent very straight. A relatives girlfriend told me that a new ambulance driver made inappropriate remarks to her and other female workers and he was sacked before his probation period was over. The thing is with flirting its ok if the other person feels the same if they dont and they report unwanted attention/inappropriate behaviour its a disciplinary offence,I have seen it happen several times never happened to me, I have been reported for being 'rude' many times,I always say that I never swore and I was just being straight...never had any comebacks from management for that. Yeah, there's sexual harassment for sure, it's probably got better since people got more comfortable coming forward. That's a good thing. Most people know how to behave, there's always been a few that don't and more often than not it's an abuse of power. I suppose that may be the case with Jenas
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Post by baldrick on Aug 25, 2024 20:34:48 GMT
Nothing wrong with a bit of harmless flirting provided it's given and taken in the right way.
FWIW I've received both, but nothing too serious.
Once it crossed a line then it has to stop.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 25, 2024 20:48:42 GMT
More women reportedly make allegations against TV host Jermaine Jenas..Report by Caroline Daviesi2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article27158372.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_jjenasPNG.pngMore women have reportedly come forward with allegations against TV presenter Jermaine Jenas, who was sacked by the BBC from Match of the Day and The One Show over complaints about his workplace conduct. Jenas, 41, is understood to be “speaking to lawyers” after his BBC contract was terminated over allegations he sent unsolicited messages to a female colleague on The One Show. The Sun, which broke the story, reported that other women have come forward amid a probe into messages allegedly sent by the married father of four. The BBC declined to comment. The former England international has been taken off air from both prime time shows. He has said that there are “two sides to every story” adding that he is “not happy” and will be taking legal advice. Jenas, who played for Tottenham Hotspur and Nottingham Forest, was sacked by the corporation after complaints about workplace conduct. The BBC reported that his contract was terminated this week because of alleged issues relating to workplace behaviour. The allegations involve digital communications including texts, which were raised with the corporation a few weeks ago, the BBC reported. He was co-presenting a talkSPORT drive-time show as it was announced he had been removed from all BBC presenting lineups on Thursday afternoon. TalkSPORT said later there are no plans for Jenas to broadcast as a presenter “in the immediate future”. BBC chief content officer Charlotte Moore said she was aware of the situation but could give “no more information” when she was approached by PA news agency after she spoke on a BBC panel at the Edinburgh TV festival. A BBC spokesperson said on Thursday: “We can confirm Jermaine Jenas is no longer part of our presenting lineup.” He was last on air for the corporation earlier in the summer. In an interview with talkSport radio on Thursday, Jenas repeatedly said “I can’t really talk about it” when asked about the claims being made. “I, as you can probably see, I am not happy about it,” he told the station. “I’ve just got to leave this to a team of lawyers at the minute who are, yeah, I suppose just managing the situation,” he said. Jenas earned between £190,000 and £194,999 last year at the BBC for his work on Match of the Day and coverage of the FA Cup and the World Cup. He has been widely regarded as a natural successor to replace Gary Lineker as host of Match Of The Day, but was noticeably absent from Saturday’s first episode of the new season. His salary for his work on The One Show has not been made public because it is made by BBC Studios, the BBC’s commercial production company, which doesn’t reveal how much it pays presenters. Jenas is also employed by TNT Sports, a group of paid-for television sports channels. Staff were informed of his departure from the BBC in an email from the BBC’s director of sport, Alex Kay-Jelski, on Thursday afternoon, which read: “Hello all, I wanted to let you know that Jermaine Jenas is no longer working with the BBC. Thanks, Alex.” i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article29645904.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_England-v-France-Quarter-Final-FIFA-World-Cup-Qatar-2022.jpg Bloody interesting this. Not. Another post with zero links for us to read. Is anyone really interested in this guys media career and alleged misdemeanor? Couldn't care less. He basically,kind of...'cheated' on his wife without actually, getting his leg over, Right? I always thought he was very average at his job,and was a box ticker for the BBC.But I would much rather see him on TV over any of these no mark woman we have on TV nowadays. He has messed up his career for now ,as he was in pole position to take over from woke poster boy w**kie Lineker.🤮 But with it being the BBC, and that he is a box ticker,he will not doubt get a 2nd chance which I would not begrudge him TBF,as what actually did he do wrong? I just hope his kids are ok long term if Jenas and his wife spilt after this.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 25, 2024 20:57:44 GMT
If the name-calling and personal abuse does not stop then this section will be closed down. It is only down to Cheshire that it exists at all. I don't read or monitor it. I said I would cover "Reports" while he is away. So please re-read what he had had to say. If you don't personally read this section,and it's only name calling and it doesn't go any further than that, then what's the issue? I honestly do not understand the constant threats of closing this section. There are only maybe ten of us or so, that really use this section daily,and most of us have either been called a name by someone, or have called someone something is the heat of an argument. Debates can get slightly heated at times on here,as it's a grown up forum page. I would rather it didn't happen, but I don't see the drama is abit of name calling in the heat of the battle on here, within reason that is.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 25, 2024 20:59:57 GMT
If the name-calling and personal abuse does not stop then this section will be closed down. It is only down to Cheshire that it exists at all. I don't read or monitor it. I said I would cover "Reports" while he is away. So please re-read what he had had to say. If you don't personally read this section,and it's only name calling and it doesn't go any further than that, then what's the issue? I honestly do not understand the constant threats of closing this section. There are only maybe ten of us or so, that really use this section daily,and most of us have either been called a name by someone, or have called someone something is the heat of an argument. Debates can get slightly heated at times on here,as it's a grown up forum page. I would rather it didn't happen, but I don't see the drama is abit of name calling in the heat of the battle on here, within reason that is. Some of it isn't in the heat of the moment, not that I'd use that as an excuse anyway. Some of it is deliberately goading.
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 25, 2024 21:03:10 GMT
Nothing wrong with a bit of harmless flirting provided it's given and taken in the right way. FWIW I've received both, but nothing too serious. Once it crossed a line then it has to stop. It's just decency and common sense. I've had my arse slapped by a female doctor, not as a patient I might add, and it was a confusing experience. I'm certain she wouldn't have done that if I wasn't a student at the time. The fact I quite liked it probably isn't helpful here. I can't ever imagine feeling it's ok to do that without permission, let alone sending dic pics as seems to be the fashion.
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