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Post by oldie on Oct 25, 2024 22:56:34 GMT
Labour are currently tying themselves in knots as they are being asked to define what they mean by a "working person". Let's not forget their manifesto promise not to increase taxes for "working people". Which taxes have they increased so far for working people, an admittedly hard class of workers to define? An answer to that will be interesting |
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 27, 2024 12:02:30 GMT
No tax rises in payslips for 'working people', vows minister..by Kate Whannel, Political reporteri.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/27/10/91335199-0-image-m-17_1730023413522.jpgEducation Secretary Bridget Phillipson has said "working people" would not see higher taxes on their payslips following Wednesday's Budget. During the election, Labour promised not to increase taxes on working people but ministers have since come under pressure to define exactly who that covers. Appearing on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, Phillipson said the manifesto pledge referred to people "whose main source of income is the income they earn from going out to work". She avoided saying if she thought business owners could be considered working people. Conservative shadow science secretary Andrew Griffith accused Labour of coming into government on "a false prospectus that things would be easy". "They essentially lie to the British people in terms of their plans," he added. Shortly after coming into power, the Labour government accused the Conservatives of leaving a "£22bn black hole" in public finances. In order to avoid cutting public spending, Chancellor Rachel Reeves is expected to announce some tax rises when she sets out the Budget next week. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/22/11/89961759-13878605-image-a-1_1727002103539.jpgThe government is looking at increasing tax on asset sales, such as shares and property, changes to inheritance tax and freezing income tax thresholds. Continuing the government's previous freeze of tax thresholds would see more people move into higher tax bands and could raise an estimated £7bn for the government. Speaking on Sunday, Phillipson said she could not give specific information on what would be in the Budget but said: "When people look at payslips they will not see higher taxes. "That is a very clear commitment." She added that the government wanted to "break the doom loop of ever higher taxes on working people and lower growth". Asked if she, as a minister earning up to £160,000, counted as a working person, she replied: "My income derives form my job and I’ll pay whatever taxes required of me." On whether a small business owner would count as a working person, she said she could not go into specific details about "who may or may not be captured in tax measures that may or may not happen in the Budget". She said she understood people's frustration but added: "They haven't got long to wait." She reiterated the government's message that ministers faced "tough choices" following the "inheritance" left by the previous Conservative government. On the same programme, Griffith accused the government of behaving "at the very least like the worst form of dodgy car hire firm, conjuring up small print that never existed".
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Post by oldie on Oct 27, 2024 12:04:07 GMT
Can't wait for the copy and paste of the upcoming budget
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 27, 2024 12:10:52 GMT
Can't wait for the copy and paste of the upcoming budget Well done Les, you have responded with the 'Lesism' that has become popular to yourself and have made your very own... As a 72 yr-old, supposed educated man, i really am disappointed in you Les, i really expect more from you as a human being. |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 27, 2024 12:59:26 GMT
2TK has signed us up to officially talking about reparations £s ,for countries adversely effected by the slave trade.
Ha!
What a snivelling s**t that bloke is.
Oh the shame!
White and British.
We should give all of our belongings away to black people and go and live in a hedge.
The shame.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 27, 2024 13:34:17 GMT
2TK has signed us up to officially talking about reparations £s ,for countries adversely effected by the slave trade. Ha! What a snivelling s**t that bloke is. Oh the shame! White and British. We should give all of our belongings away to black people and go and live in a hedge. The shame. Not quite how it works, or would you rather we ignored it? International diplomacy is about trade offs. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 27, 2024 13:51:52 GMT
2TK has signed us up to officially talking about reparations £s ,for countries adversely effected by the slave trade. Ha! What a snivelling s**t that bloke is. Oh the shame! White and British. We should give all of our belongings away to black people and go and live in a hedge. The shame. Not quite how it works, or would you rather we ignored it? International diplomacy is about trade offs. No point in trying to be logical with this guy |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 27, 2024 13:56:24 GMT
2TK has signed us up to officially talking about reparations £s ,for countries adversely effected by the slave trade. Ha! What a snivelling s**t that bloke is. Oh the shame! White and British. We should give all of our belongings away to black people and go and live in a hedge. The shame. Not quite how it works, or would you rather we ignored it? Basel said. 2TK could of just said 'don't talk bollocks,we're not talking about it'.Obviously with the usual diplomacy. I posted the other day that wiping the slate clean,on a countrys national debt,might be a good idea. Thing is I don't know if this is appropriate as I don't know what countries owe us money and how much. Has'nt China complicated things by loaning some Commonwealth countries money and perhaps stirring things up between these countries and the UK? Then I ask myself,slavery was a long long time ago,at least when we were involved,sohow justified are reparations.I mean if a country is still struggling,just how much blame can be put on GBs slave trade? |
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 27, 2024 18:37:50 GMT
Labour suspends MP after CCTV appears to show him punching man..by Kate Whannel, Political reporter
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The CCTV footage shows how Amesbury, 55, appeared to be talking in an animated fashion with the man before suddenly knocking him down on the high street of the market town of Frodsham, Cheshire at 2.15am on Saturday morningLabour MP Mike Amesbury has been suspended from the party and has had the whip withdrawn, after CCTV footage emerged appearing to show him punching a man to the ground. In footage obtained by the Daily Mail,, external the Runcorn and Helsby MP is apparently seen continuing to hit the man as he lies in the street. It comes after a different video, posted on X, purported to show Amesbury shouting and swearing at the man lying in the street in Frodsham, Cheshire. Amesbury has been contacted for comment. A Labour party spokesman said: “Mike Amesbury MP has been assisting Cheshire Police with their inquiries following an incident on Friday night. "As these inquiries are now ongoing, the Labour Party has administratively suspended Mr Amesbury’s membership of the Labour Party pending an investigation.” He has also lost the Labour whip in the House of Commons. It is not clear what happened in the build-up to the moments caught on film. In that clip, Amesbury can be heard shouting: "You won't threaten the MP ever again, will you?" In a statement issued before the Daily Mail footage emerged, Cheshire Police said: “At 02:48 BST on Saturday 26 October police were called to reports of an assault in Frodsham. “A caller reported he had been assaulted by a man in Main Street. Enquiries are ongoing.” Posting on his own Facebook page on Saturday, the 55-year-old backbencher said: "Last night I was involved in an incident that took place after I felt threatened following an evening out with friends. "This morning I contacted Cheshire Police myself to report what happened. "I will not be making any further public comment but will of course cooperate with any inquiries if required by Cheshire Police." i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/27/14/91339293-0-image-a-3_1730039214741.jpg
Amesbury launches a punch seemingly without physical provocation and then continuing to hit the man six times while he lay on the ground
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After the attack, Amesbury tells the man 'don't threaten me ever again.' The shocking recording was obtained exclusively by the Mail after Amesbury went to police to report that he had been 'involved in an incident' after he 'felt threatened'Asked on Sunday morning about the initial clip and police statement, Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said: "The police are now investigating the matter. "I think that it’s important they’re allowed to get on and do their job and there’s not much more I can say at this point." Former Conservative MP Dehenna Davison, whose father died from a single punch, called the CCTV footage "horrendous". In a post on X, external, she said: "The police are investigating and I am sure the full facts will emerge soon. "I have spent years working with One Punch UK to raise awareness of the dangers a single punch can cause. "Such violence - whatever the background to the altercation - is never and should never be justified." Amesbury has been a Labour MP in Cheshire since 2017 and served as a shadow minister between 2018 and 2024. In the July general election he won his constituency with a majority of 14,696. In July 2023, a 56-year-old man was found guilty of stalking and harassing Amesbury at his constituency office and in town. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/27/14/91339299-0-image-a-4_1730039230373.jpg
After the assault bystanders rush to help the man. One woman says: 'You're like grown men, what are you fighting for.'
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Post by trymer on Oct 27, 2024 18:42:53 GMT
Labour suspends MP after CCTV appears to show him punching man..by Kate Whannel, Political reporter
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The CCTV footage shows how Amesbury, 55, appeared to be talking in an animated fashion with the man before suddenly knocking him down on the high street of the market town of Frodsham, Cheshire at 2.15am on Saturday morningLabour MP Mike Amesbury has been suspended from the party and has had the whip withdrawn, after CCTV footage emerged appearing to show him punching a man to the ground. In footage obtained by the Daily Mail,, external the Runcorn and Helsby MP is apparently seen continuing to hit the man as he lies in the street. It comes after a different video, posted on X, purported to show Amesbury shouting and swearing at the man lying in the street in Frodsham, Cheshire. Amesbury has been contacted for comment. A Labour party spokesman said: “Mike Amesbury MP has been assisting Cheshire Police with their inquiries following an incident on Friday night. "As these inquiries are now ongoing, the Labour Party has administratively suspended Mr Amesbury’s membership of the Labour Party pending an investigation.” He has also lost the Labour whip in the House of Commons. It is not clear what happened in the build-up to the moments caught on film. In that clip, Amesbury can be heard shouting: "You won't threaten the MP ever again, will you?" In a statement issued before the Daily Mail footage emerged, Cheshire Police said: “At 02:48 BST on Saturday 26 October police were called to reports of an assault in Frodsham. “A caller reported he had been assaulted by a man in Main Street. Enquiries are ongoing.” Posting on his own Facebook page on Saturday, the 55-year-old backbencher said: "Last night I was involved in an incident that took place after I felt threatened following an evening out with friends. "This morning I contacted Cheshire Police myself to report what happened. "I will not be making any further public comment but will of course cooperate with any inquiries if required by Cheshire Police." i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/27/14/91339293-0-image-a-3_1730039214741.jpg
Amesbury launches a punch seemingly without physical provocation and then continuing to hit the man six times while he lay on the ground
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After the attack, Amesbury tells the man 'don't threaten me ever again.' The shocking recording was obtained exclusively by the Mail after Amesbury went to police to report that he had been 'involved in an incident' after he 'felt threatened'Asked on Sunday morning about the initial clip and police statement, Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said: "The police are now investigating the matter. "I think that it’s important they’re allowed to get on and do their job and there’s not much more I can say at this point." Former Conservative MP Dehenna Davison, whose father died from a single punch, called the CCTV footage "horrendous". In a post on X, external, she said: "The police are investigating and I am sure the full facts will emerge soon. "I have spent years working with One Punch UK to raise awareness of the dangers a single punch can cause. "Such violence - whatever the background to the altercation - is never and should never be justified." Amesbury has been a Labour MP in Cheshire since 2017 and served as a shadow minister between 2018 and 2024. In the July general election he won his constituency with a majority of 14,696. In July 2023, a 56-year-old man was found guilty of stalking and harassing Amesbury at his constituency office and in town. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/27/14/91339299-0-image-a-4_1730039230373.jpg
After the assault bystanders rush to help the man. One woman says: 'You're like grown men, what are you fighting for.' I was just about to post about this BT, i saw the video the MP sounded pi$$ed up to me,terrible really for a man of his age and position,still when Blair made light of Prescott's act of violence ( "John will be John" giggle) I suppose it set the tone. |
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 27, 2024 18:51:36 GMT
Be interesting IF he was ousted from his seat by his actions, what a by election, if called for, could throw up, especially if the up and coming budget doesn't go down well with the punters...🤔
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Post by baselswh on Oct 27, 2024 20:39:36 GMT
The Labour MP Amesbury ,comes across as a drunken thug to me.The sort of asshole that ruins peoples night out.
He won the seat by a big majority for Labour at the GE,but if he is sacked,perhaps even imprisoned, a byelection might be a lot closer.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 7:58:50 GMT
The Labour MP Amesbury ,comes across as a drunken thug to me.The sort of asshole that ruins peoples night out. He won the seat by a big majority for Labour at the GE,but if he is sacked,perhaps even imprisoned, a byelection might be a lot closer. Look at this one and her, illogical, racist lies. She is a Racist,and a horrible bigoted thick and out of touch person. She looks ill by the shaking here.In that regard, I hold no ill will to her. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 8:00:38 GMT
The Labour MP Amesbury ,comes across as a drunken thug to me.The sort of asshole that ruins peoples night out. He won the seat by a big majority for Labour at the GE,but if he is sacked,perhaps even imprisoned, a byelection might be a lot closer. Look at this one and her, illogical, racist lies. She is a Racist,and a horrible bigoted thick and out of touch person. She looks ill by the shaking here.In that regard, I hold no ill will to her. Who? |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 8:01:44 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 8:02:36 GMT
Look at this one and her, illogical, racist lies. She is a Racist,and a horrible bigoted thick and out of touch person. She looks ill by the shaking here.In that regard, I hold no ill will to her. Who? The link didn't post, good spot. |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 28, 2024 8:07:53 GMT
Mike Amesbury,Labour MP ,just a short while ago voted for tougher sentences for the rioters.
He'll be hoping for a custodial sentence then.
Maybe he can share a cell with the Labour Counciller, slit their throats Ricky Jones.
It's believed acid was not involved in either of these cases.
Phew!
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 28, 2024 8:14:47 GMT
This MP has to resign. I don't give a toss what party he belongs to in all honesty. This type of behaviour is totally unacceptable in someone holding a public office.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 8:14:49 GMT
The link didn't post, good spot. Bloody detailed me mind...😂😂 |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 28, 2024 8:14:59 GMT
Abbott's a racist opportunist. I'm your friend,don't bother working or having any aspirations,we'll give you dole for life.Carry on carrying knives and guns,you need to protect yourselves against errr whitey in general.Kill the slave masters! Just stay stuck. In a rut and vote Labour! |
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