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Post by Icegas on Oct 23, 2024 8:33:25 GMT
It's very different. Personally let them volunteer, they are abysmal anyway.And that's being nice..really nice. Harris and Labour vs Trump.... good lord..✊️✊️✊️ If they are volunteering in their own time, it's not an issue. As for being abysmal, Labour did get a large majority. 😉 But thats like having two city fans as children, and having to choose which one not to shoot.😅 Now if one was a ginger, then it's an easier decision clearly...🤪
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 23, 2024 10:52:56 GMT
It's very different. Personally let them volunteer, they are abysmal anyway.And that's being nice..really nice. Harris and Labour vs Trump.... good lord..✊️✊️✊️ If they are volunteering in their own time, it's not an issue. As for being abysmal, Labour did get a large majority. 😉 And they got half a million votes fewer than Corbyn!
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 11:21:15 GMT
If they are volunteering in their own time, it's not an issue. As for being abysmal, Labour did get a large majority. 😉 And they got half a million votes fewer than Corbyn! 3.2 million less people voted at the 2024 than the 2019 election. The Tories lost 7.1 million votes....
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Post by Icegas on Oct 23, 2024 11:35:31 GMT
And they got half a million votes fewer than Corbyn! 3.2 million less people voted at the 2024 than the 2019 election. The Tories lost 7.1 million votes.... Cheshire, your not stupid. Starmer.And his labour government are here in power today purely by default, rather than any kind of a victory. I dislike both the Torries, and Labour parties of today equally. And if there is no proper change over the next 4 years, then we will be in the same position as we are now, but in reverse. The Torries, remarkably will get back in as this Labour party are that bad. I voted reform as a vote... I guess of rebellion/hope and they are proving useless also until Farage comes back off his world tour that is.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 11:37:33 GMT
Foreign interference in the US election...another own goal by labour, headline news on the BBC this morning. Yeh Trymer. Have these volunteers paid for their flight, hotel bills etc? In the scenario they hav'nt, then they may have broken US electoral law. And what are your views on Liz Truss, Nigel Farage [being paid to go and flights], Boris Johnson and other senior people turning to support the Republicans at their conference? The Republicans are hypocrites and their complaints are a standard strategy. Complain about Biden's age and rambling, he steps down. Trumps age is similar and he rambles and threatens to bring in the national guard or even the army against his opponents but that's OK.
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Post by francegas on Oct 23, 2024 12:01:36 GMT
Good god, watched PMQs today and to think Angie could potentially become PM. She didn't answer one question, just blamed the Tories, couldn't even define what a working person was . She was hopeless at best.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 12:24:27 GMT
Yeh Trymer. Have these volunteers paid for their flight, hotel bills etc? In the scenario they hav'nt, then they may have broken US electoral law. And what are your views on Liz Truss, Nigel Farage [being paid to go and flights], Boris Johnson and other senior people turning to support the Republicans at their conference? The Republicans are hypocrites and their complaints are a standard strategy. Complain about Biden's age and rambling, he steps down. Trumps age is similar and he rambles and threatens to bring in the national guard or even the army against his opponents but that's OK. Have the people you mention broken the rules? Check them out. I think you have to have some arrogant brass neck to interfere in another countries democratic business,but we saw what respect this lot have for democracy after the 2016 UK Referendum result. Starmer is useless. In the scenario Trump wins,then the US UK relationship looks damaged.The mouthy fool Lammy should instantly be sacked in that situation.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 12:27:52 GMT
And what are your views on Liz Truss, Nigel Farage [being paid to go and flights], Boris Johnson and other senior people turning to support the Republicans at their conference? The Republicans are hypocrites and their complaints are a standard strategy. Complain about Biden's age and rambling, he steps down. Trumps age is similar and he rambles and threatens to bring in the national guard or even the army against his opponents but that's OK. Have the people you mention broken the rules? Check them out. I think you have to have some arrogant brass neck to interfere in another countries democratic business,but we saw what respect this lot have for democracy after the 2016 UK Referendum result. Starmer is useless. In the scenario Trump wins,then the US UK relationship looks damaged.The mouthy fool Lammy should instantly be sacked in that situation. Only Nigel I believe who is receiving support from Bannon in the US and as far as I am aware has not declared it yet, as he doesn't feel he has to. But then neither are the Labour volunteers so not sure what your point is.
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2024 12:39:06 GMT
Have the people you mention broken the rules? Check them out. I think you have to have some arrogant brass neck to interfere in another countries democratic business,but we saw what respect this lot have for democracy after the 2016 UK Referendum result. Starmer is useless. In the scenario Trump wins,then the US UK relationship looks damaged.The mouthy fool Lammy should instantly be sacked in that situation. Only Nigel I believe who is receiving support from Bannon in the US and as far as I am aware has not declared it yet, as he doesn't feel he has to. But then neither are the Labour volunteers so not sure what your point is. Nor is Basel
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 12:44:58 GMT
Have the people you mention broken the rules? Check them out. I think you have to have some arrogant brass neck to interfere in another countries democratic business,but we saw what respect this lot have for democracy after the 2016 UK Referendum result. Starmer is useless. In the scenario Trump wins,then the US UK relationship looks damaged.The mouthy fool Lammy should instantly be sacked in that situation. Only Nigel I believe who is receiving support from Bannon in the US and as far as I am aware has not declared it yet, as he doesn't feel he has to. But then neither are the Labour volunteers so not sure what your point is. Well the globalist left fanatics can always make some accusations against Nigel. We'll maybe see if these 100 odd Commies ( with more to come ) ,have broken any rules.The British Government too. Awful arrogance to get involved in another countries democratic election. What kind of stuck up, dangerous little twit could do that? Maybe Oldie knows some?
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 13:26:22 GMT
Labours head of operations made an online plea for activists to travel to the US and help Harris become the President.
This online plea was deleted,but not quickly enough.
This could be against US electoral rules.
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Post by trymer on Oct 23, 2024 13:30:34 GMT
Yeh Trymer. Have these volunteers paid for their flight, hotel bills etc? In the scenario they hav'nt, then they may have broken US electoral law. And what are your views on Liz Truss, Nigel Farage [being paid to go and flights], Boris Johnson and other senior people turning to support the Republicans at their conference? The Republicans are hypocrites and their complaints are a standard strategy. Complain about Biden's age and rambling, he steps down. Trumps age is similar and he rambles and threatens to bring in the national guard or even the army against his opponents but that's OK. I know that you dont seem to be able to talk about labour without mentioning Johson/tories/Reform /Farage etc but you seem to be missing the point,the British labour party who form the govt here have had an official complaint made against them for election interference,its serious.....did Farage/Johnson/truss etc etc ever have an official complaint for election interference made against them ?
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Post by trymer on Oct 23, 2024 13:35:54 GMT
Have the people you mention broken the rules? Check them out. I think you have to have some arrogant brass neck to interfere in another countries democratic business,but we saw what respect this lot have for democracy after the 2016 UK Referendum result. Starmer is useless. In the scenario Trump wins,then the US UK relationship looks damaged.The mouthy fool Lammy should instantly be sacked in that situation. But then neither are the Labour volunteers so not sure what your point is. How do you know who has paid for the 'volunteers' flights,food and accommodation ? Alistair Campbell wasnt sure when he was pressed. Who are these labour party 'volunteers' who have enough 'spare time' (sir keirs words) to go to America and who paid ? maybe sir alli has been generous again ? I think that this should be investigated as interfering in a foreign election is very serious.
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Post by trymer on Oct 23, 2024 13:37:23 GMT
Labours head of operations made an online plea for activists to travel to the US and help Harris become the President. This online plea was deleted,but not quickly enough. This could be against US electoral rules. Exactly !.....lets hope that the truth comes out...
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 14:07:19 GMT
Only Nigel I believe who is receiving support from Bannon in the US and as far as I am aware has not declared it yet, as he doesn't feel he has to. But then neither are the Labour volunteers so not sure what your point is. Well the globalist left fanatics can always make some accusations against Nigel. We'll maybe see if these 100 odd Commies ( with more to come ) ,have broken any rules. The British Government too. Awful arrogance to get involved in another countries democratic election. What kind of stuck up, dangerous little twit could do that? Maybe Oldie knows some? You are sounding like ltdgas. Why are those on the left always Commies! They are not communists. Why the obsession? Why are you so blind to Nigel's faults?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 14:08:59 GMT
And what are your views on Liz Truss, Nigel Farage [being paid to go and flights], Boris Johnson and other senior people turning to support the Republicans at their conference? The Republicans are hypocrites and their complaints are a standard strategy. Complain about Biden's age and rambling, he steps down. Trumps age is similar and he rambles and threatens to bring in the national guard or even the army against his opponents but that's OK. I know that you dont seem to be able to talk about labour without mentioning Johson/tories/Reform /Farage etc but you seem to be missing the point,the British labour party who form the govt here have had an official complaint made against them for election interference,its serious.....did Farage/Johnson/truss etc etc ever have an official complaint for election interference made against them ? No because the Democrats aren't so petty or such snowflakes, as the Republicans like to call anyone who disagrees. I am comparing like with like...
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 14:11:46 GMT
But then neither are the Labour volunteers so not sure what your point is. How do you know who has paid for the 'volunteers' flights,food and accommodation ? Alistair Campbell wasnt sure when he was pressed. Who are these labour party 'volunteers' who have enough 'spare time' (sir keirs words) to go to America and who paid ? maybe sir alli has been generous again ? I think that this should be investigated as interfering in a foreign election is very serious. Alistair Campbell isn't in Government as far as I am aware..... I think Nigel should be investigated for the payments he is receiving from Bannon and not declaring it but in your eyes he appears not to be able to do any wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to mention him.... Do you not believe he should act appropriately as an MP?
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 14:16:09 GMT
How do you know who has paid for the 'volunteers' flights,food and accommodation ? Alistair Campbell wasnt sure when he was pressed. Who are these labour party 'volunteers' who have enough 'spare time' (sir keirs words) to go to America and who paid ? maybe sir alli has been generous again ? I think that this should be investigated as interfering in a foreign election is very serious. Alistair Campbell isn't in Government as far as I am aware..... I think Nigel should be investigated for the payments he is receiving from Bannon and not declaring it but in your eyes he appears not to be able to do any wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to mention him.... Do you not believe he should act appropriately as an MP? Chesh,there is probably no other British politician that is subjected to such close scrutiny as the Farage. They'll go for him only if they think they've got him. Farage is very,very careful.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 14:20:24 GMT
Alistair Campbell isn't in Government as far as I am aware..... I think Nigel should be investigated for the payments he is receiving from Bannon and not declaring it but in your eyes he appears not to be able to do any wrong and I shouldn't be allowed to mention him.... Do you not believe he should act appropriately as an MP? Chesh,there is probably no other British politician that is subjected to such close scrutiny as the Farage. They'll go for him only if they think they've got him. Farage is very,very careful. Really Bas? You are joking. Starmer met Taylor Swift and its a major headline in nearly every paper and media outlet. Farage receives money, doesn't declare it and not a sniff in the media. You are seriously joking. It's like on here, as soon as I mention him, people jump down my throat.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 14:24:30 GMT
Chesh,there is probably no other British politician that is subjected to such close scrutiny as the Farage. They'll go for him only if they think they've got him. Farage is very,very careful. Really Bas? You are joking. Starmer met Taylor Swift and its a major headline in nearly every paper and media outlet. Farage receives money, doesn't declare it and not a sniff in the media. You are seriously joking. It's like on here, as soon as I mention him, people jump down my throat. The current Government are getting back what they did to the previous Government. They have it coming. As I said,when they think they've got Farage,they'll move. He is very careful.
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