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Post by baselswh on Aug 30, 2024 16:38:06 GMT
Labour clearly support mass immigration.
They have a mass immigration policy and it's coming along very well for them.
Is there any point in pretending otherwise?
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Post by baldrick on Aug 30, 2024 17:11:49 GMT
Labour clearly support mass immigration. They have a mass immigration policy and it's coming along very well for them. Is there any point in pretending otherwise? Can you expand? Not sure what you are specifically referring to.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 30, 2024 17:13:03 GMT
I don't begrudge anyone a holiday, but this is a shambolic video given her position in power.She shouldn't be acting like this. Its made worse given the current state of our country. Plenty of politicians have done this sort of thing, didn't Michael Gove do something similar a few years ago? Nice to see the human side of then.
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Post by trymer on Aug 30, 2024 17:27:04 GMT
Keir Starmer pulls Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street £100,000 portrait down after finding it 'unsettling'..by William Morgani.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/29/22/89083379-13794387-image-a-4_1724968421860.jpgFormer Prime Minister returned to 10 Downing Street in 2009 to attend the unveiling of her portraitKeir Starmer is said to have had Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street portrait pulled down - after finding it "unsettling". Just weeks after moving into Number 10, Sir Keir has reportedly made a major change within the building which has been the centre of the UK Government for almost 300 years. Perhaps unsurprisingly for a left-leaning lawyer who graduated in 1985, the Labour leader is said to have kicked divisive former Tory PM Maggie's portrait out of the building. The UK's new leader is said to have found the portrait of Thatcher, who served a tumultuous stint as Conservative PM from 1979 to 1990, to be "unsettling" with the Iron Lady looking down on him. After demolishing a similarly long-lasting and disastrous Tory government last month, Starmer appears to be making good on his promise to "reset" and "change" politics after decades of failure. Running as Friday's front page for the Daily Mail and Telegraph, the move to take down the portrait of Britain's first female Prime Minister has infuriated some Tories, with former MP Jacob Rees-Mogg calling the move “unbecoming of a Prime Minister who has a role representing the nation, not just his political faction.” But many within Labour have spent decades opposing Thatcher's ultra-libertarian, union-bashing, and divisive style of politics According to the Prime Minister's biographer, Tom Baldwin, the decision to take the large portrait out of a room in Downing Street, unofficially dubbed the 'Thatcher Room', was made while Starmer was examining the paintings of former leaders. Baldwin asked: "It’s a bit unsettling with her staring down as you like that, isn’t it?" The Labour leader, who drew fire from his own party for expressing admiration for the long-serving female PM during the election campaign, is reported to have agreed. Then when Baldwin pressed him on whether he would get rid of the portrait, he agreed again. Baldwin added: "And he has." Surprisingly, the "unsettling" portrait of Thatcher was originally hung before David Cameron swept to power, with then Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown commissioning and unveiling the painting in Downing Street in 2009, at an event with Mrs Thatcher. Keir Starmer has previously praised the former PM for “setting loose our natural entrepreneurialism,” but on the campaign trail slammed decades fo Conservative policy that has "decimated" the country's former industrial heartlands. But with the Conservative Party in tatters after an all-time historic loss of 251 seats in July, causing the leadership in England and Scotland to collapse, upstart contenders have been quick to slam the move by the Labour PM. Meghan Gallacher, who wants to be leader of the Scottish Tories, said: “It’s disgraceful that Keir Starmer would remove a picture of Britain’s first female Prime Minister. "Regardless of your opinions on Margaret Thatcher, she paved the way for women in politics and tackled sexist stereotypes head on. She’s an inspiration for many, a defining figure in British politics, and she deserves to be recognised for her many achievements. Her legacy should be honoured, the portrait should be returned.” i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/29/22/89081743-13794387-image-a-24_1724965396516.jpgThe Prime Minister had the £100,000 painting taken down from the Thatcher Room in Downing Street after reportedly finding it 'unsettling' tbf I wouldnt want a painting of Thatcher anywhere that i was living or Blair, Boris (those teeth),Theresa May or fat Jim Callahan on that beach like a stranded whale, must be a rule that prime ministers have to look fugly. People have strange tastes in pictures,i visited El escorial and one of the paintings was of a bloke being crucified and stoned (might have been St Stephen) who would want that on their dining room wall ?
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Post by baselswh on Aug 30, 2024 18:55:42 GMT
Labour clearly support mass immigration. They have a mass immigration policy and it's coming along very well for them. Is there any point in pretending otherwise? Can you expand? Not sure what you are specifically referring to. Numbers of illegals coming in. Free food and lodging for them. Council homes down the line and placed infront of Britons in the queue. Have they actually selected someone to run the "smash the gangs" charade yet? "Kicking the can down the road". 2TK was a big Remainer,he has a globalist agenda. They have a mass immigration policy. It's there,infront of our eyes.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 30, 2024 19:11:28 GMT
Labours own figures say 1.6 million immigrants are unemployed.
5000 empty hotel beds ( yes empty ) are being paid for just incase an extra cascade of illegals turn up.
Approximately £250,000 a day on empty beds.Over £91,000,000 a year spent on empty beds.
Part of 2TKs and Labours mass immigration policy.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 30, 2024 19:21:42 GMT
Can you expand? Not sure what you are specifically referring to. Numbers of illegals coming in. Free food and lodging for them. Council homes down the line and placed infront of Britons in the queue. Have they actually selected someone to run the "smash the gangs" charade yet? "Kicking the can down the road". 2TK was a big Remainer,he has a globalist agenda. They have a mass immigration policy. It's there,infront of our eyes. So little different to the previous lot.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 30, 2024 19:23:56 GMT
Numbers of illegals coming in. Free food and lodging for them. Council homes down the line and placed infront of Britons in the queue. Have they actually selected someone to run the "smash the gangs" charade yet? "Kicking the can down the road". 2TK was a big Remainer,he has a globalist agenda. They have a mass immigration policy. It's there,infront of our eyes. So little different to the previous lot. Agreed.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 30, 2024 19:39:57 GMT
Billions of pounds from the foretold October b'stard budget will go to illegal immigrants.
All part of 2TKs and Labours mass immigration policy.
I don't think many Britons will be happy about this.
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Post by francegas on Aug 30, 2024 21:58:35 GMT
Thought it was Thatcher's he removed, not Attlee's. 😘 😂😂😂 At least France posts an opinion. R4 had an interview with the artist that painted that portrait. Despite their desperate attempts to goad him into being upset about this he was not. He said that prior to Cameron coming to office it was hung in a "vestibule" and he couldn't care less as long as it remained in Downing St. Wasn't it Gordon Brown who commissioned the portrait of Maggie T and insisted it be hung in Downing Street as a tribute to her.
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Post by oldie on Aug 31, 2024 6:51:40 GMT
😂😂😂 At least France posts an opinion. R4 had an interview with the artist that painted that portrait. Despite their desperate attempts to goad him into being upset about this he was not. He said that prior to Cameron coming to office it was hung in a "vestibule" and he couldn't care less as long as it remained in Downing St. Wasn't it Gordon Brown who commissioned the portrait of Maggie T and insisted it be hung in Downing Street as a tribute to her. Indeed That is what the artist himself said on R4. Cannot imagine Boris Johnson commissioning a portrait of Clem Atlee, can you? Of himself maybe.🤔
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Post by aghast on Aug 31, 2024 22:49:14 GMT
I think he's doing pretty well. Isn't that weird? Do you think that both of us in our different ways were predisposed to our opinions and the conclusions were inevitable? You hate him, I like him and we will never agree? Or maybe Keir Starmer actually is the worst Prime Minister of all time, ever, and I've made a terrible mistake?
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Post by aghast on Aug 31, 2024 23:01:36 GMT
Billions of pounds from the foretold October b'stard budget will go to illegal immigrants. All part of 2TKs and Labours mass immigration policy. I don't think many Britons will be happy about this. 2TK. So clever to keep on and on repeating it regardless of the topic being debated. It gets a rise out of me, so job done on one small level. 👍👍👍 Do you feel that you are actually contributing anything of any value at all to the debate, or just stirring up hatred of immigrants and left of centre people? My opinion is the latter. But I might be wrong.
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Post by icegas on Sept 1, 2024 1:55:02 GMT
I think he's doing pretty well. Isn't that weird? Do you think that both of us in our different ways were predisposed to our opinions and the conclusions were inevitable? You hate him, I like him and we will never agree? Or maybe Keir Starmer actually is the worst Prime Minister of all time, ever, and I've made a terrible mistake? Get the country to vote again today and you will find the answer.And with respect, I will come out to be proven right of how bad he is.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 1, 2024 6:35:03 GMT
Billions of pounds from the foretold October b'stard budget will go to illegal immigrants. All part of 2TKs and Labours mass immigration policy. I don't think many Britons will be happy about this. 2TK. So clever to keep on and on repeating it regardless of the topic being debated. It gets a rise out of me, so job done on one small level. 👍👍👍 Do you feel that you are actually contributing anything of any value at all to the debate, or just stirring up hatred of immigrants and left of centre people? My opinion is the latter. But I might be wrong. People have a right to know how the Labour Governments mass immigration policy is going.Expense,crime rate,Islam,effects on centuries old British communities.Etc. You may want it kept a secret,why would that be?
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Post by baldrick on Sept 1, 2024 6:38:29 GMT
I think he's doing pretty well. Isn't that weird? Do you think that both of us in our different ways were predisposed to our opinions and the conclusions were inevitable? You hate him, I like him and we will never agree? Or maybe Keir Starmer actually is the worst Prime Minister of all time, ever, and I've made a terrible mistake? Get the country to vote again today and you will find the answer.And with respect, I will come out to be proven right of how bad he is. Maybe true about a lot of voting decisions, including non GE events like Brexit.
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Post by icegas on Sept 1, 2024 10:44:15 GMT
Get the country to vote again today and you will find the answer.And with respect, I will come out to be proven right of how bad he is. Maybe true about a lot of voting decisions, including non GE events like Brexit. The Brexit vote is a completely different subject to be had, but I get your point. For example,I don't regret voting for Brexit.. yet I regret voting for Johnson after by trusting him to go through with it.As himself along with every other Prime minister since has defied the will of the people and not implemented, or honoured the result,and thats why the remoaners say that Brexit hasn't worked as no one has tried as they never wanted it.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 1, 2024 10:57:41 GMT
Maybe true about a lot of voting decisions, including non GE events like Brexit. The Brexit vote is a completely different subject to be had, but I get your point. For example,I don't regret voting for Brexit.. yet I regret voting for Johnson after by trusting him to go through with it.As himself along with every other Prime minister since has defied the will of the people and not implemented, or honoured the result,and thats why the remoaners say that Brexit hasn't worked as no one has tried as they never wanted it. Glad you agree regarding the point, although I'd suggest it isn't that different a topic in respect of your point about changing minds, collectively or individually. People wanted something different to what went before then disappointed things haven't improved immediately. Plus ca change.
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Post by icegas on Sept 1, 2024 11:09:17 GMT
The Brexit vote is a completely different subject to be had, but I get your point. For example,I don't regret voting for Brexit.. yet I regret voting for Johnson after by trusting him to go through with it.As himself along with every other Prime minister since has defied the will of the people and not implemented, or honoured the result,and thats why the remoaners say that Brexit hasn't worked as no one has tried as they never wanted it. Glad you agree regarding the point, although I'd suggest it isn't that different a topic in respect of your point about changing minds, collectively or individually. People wanted something different to what went before then disappointed things haven't improved immediately. Plus ca change. Actually you are right there.
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Post by icegas on Sept 2, 2024 7:22:20 GMT
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