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Post by baselswh on May 28, 2024 17:42:45 GMT
It's a laughable gimmick. Wait a week or two and we will get "bringing back hanging". That will get the juices rising amongst the blood lusts. The fact hanging was a deterrent and probably saved far more lives than it took,won't come into it for some. I get the we must not be like them ( murderers etc ),but hanging was a d e t e r r e n t.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 18:30:28 GMT
It's a laughable gimmick. Wait a week or two and we will get "bringing back hanging". That will get the juices rising amongst the blood lusts. The fact hanging was a deterrent and probably saved far more lives than it took,won't come into it for some. I get the we must not be like them ( murderers etc ),but hanging was a d e t e r r e n t. Can't wait for you to provide evidence that supports that assertion. Cue silence
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Post by ltdgas on May 28, 2024 18:35:12 GMT
My. Nephew was basically a waster but eventually went in the marines , is now in the met police , has lovely house , wife & 2 kids , have to say the marines was the making of him Young kid where I work took ( was forced by dad ) a job as a general dogs body ( sweeper up ) & is now being trained as a cnc miller , again his original attitude was appalling , just wanted to go home , but now he’s really enjoying it Lot of these kids just need a bit of a push
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Post by ltdgas on May 28, 2024 18:41:53 GMT
It's a laughable gimmick. Wait a week or two and we will get "bringing back hanging". That will get the juices rising amongst the blood lusts. Not sure about hanging , but firing squads could give these young kids a bit of experience before going in the army & we’d not be wasting bullets on a firing range , and prisons are full
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 19:12:35 GMT
My. Nephew was basically a waster but eventually went in the marines , is now in the met police , has lovely house , wife & 2 kids , have to say the marines was the making of him Young kid where I work took ( was forced by dad ) a job as a general dogs body ( sweeper up ) & is now being trained as a cnc miller , again his original attitude was appalling , just wanted to go home , but now he’s really enjoying it Lot of these kids just need a bit of a push You have to question "where were the parents"
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Post by ltdgas on May 28, 2024 19:34:18 GMT
My. Nephew was basically a waster but eventually went in the marines , is now in the met police , has lovely house , wife & 2 kids , have to say the marines was the making of him Young kid where I work took ( was forced by dad ) a job as a general dogs body ( sweeper up ) & is now being trained as a cnc miller , again his original attitude was appalling , just wanted to go home , but now he’s really enjoying it Lot of these kids just need a bit of a push You have to question "where were the parents" My bil works for the bbc as a driver / rigger so is away weeks at a time , so sil was basically a single mum looking after 3 boys , took the easy option of relaxing on sofa smoking spliffs with older 2 boys , but the boys have all turned out ok now Must admit I’ve worked away week / two at a time and it’s not easy being hundreds of miles away whilst wife screams down the phone deal with her ( daughter ) , whilst daughter screams it’s her ( wife ) causing the issues 😂, I can laugh now as daughter has done ok , nurse , but at time I could strangle them both Thank god I only have one girl , not 3 boys !!
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Post by baselswh on May 28, 2024 19:51:16 GMT
The fact hanging was a deterrent and probably saved far more lives than it took,won't come into it for some. I get the we must not be like them ( murderers etc ),but hanging was a d e t e r r e n t. Can't wait for you to provide evidence that supports that assertion. Cue silence The 5 year period after capital punishment was stopped. Crimes that would of recieved a hanging sentence before the ban were checked. This to see if capital punishment crime went up or down. During this 5 year period, what would of been hanging offence crimes went up in number. More crime most disgusting. Not less.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 20:13:52 GMT
You have to question "where were the parents" My bil works for the bbc as a driver / rigger so is away weeks at a time , so sil was basically a single mum looking after 3 boys , took the easy option of relaxing on sofa smoking spliffs with older 2 boys , but the boys have all turned out ok now Must admit I’ve worked away week / two at a time and it’s not easy being hundreds of miles away whilst wife screams down the phone deal with her ( daughter ) , whilst daughter screams it’s her ( wife ) causing the issues 😂, I can laugh now as daughter has done ok , nurse , but at time I could strangle them both Thank god I only have one girl , not 3 boys !! So absentee fathers are an issue. Strange that you laugh then, but on the other hand recommend conscription in one form or another.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 20:15:20 GMT
Can't wait for you to provide evidence that supports that assertion. Cue silence The 5 year period after capital punishment was stopped. Crimes that would of recieved a hanging sentence before the ban were checked. This to see if capital punishment crime went up or down. During this 5 year period, what would of been hanging offence crimes went up in number. More crime most disgusting. Not less. Still waiting for actual evidence
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Post by baselswh on May 28, 2024 20:31:14 GMT
The 5 year period after capital punishment was stopped. Crimes that would of recieved a hanging sentence before the ban were checked. This to see if capital punishment crime went up or down. During this 5 year period, what would of been hanging offence crimes went up in number. More crime most disgusting. Not less. Still waiting for actual evidence The capital punishment murders went up by 125% in the 5 years.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 20:52:50 GMT
Still waiting for actual evidence The capital punishment murders went up by 125% in the 5 years. when? Link to data
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Post by ltdgas on May 29, 2024 7:58:05 GMT
My bil works for the bbc as a driver / rigger so is away weeks at a time , so sil was basically a single mum looking after 3 boys , took the easy option of relaxing on sofa smoking spliffs with older 2 boys , but the boys have all turned out ok now Must admit I’ve worked away week / two at a time and it’s not easy being hundreds of miles away whilst wife screams down the phone deal with her ( daughter ) , whilst daughter screams it’s her ( wife ) causing the issues 😂, I can laugh now as daughter has done ok , nurse , but at time I could strangle them both Thank god I only have one girl , not 3 boys !! So absentee fathers are an issue. Strange that you laugh then, but on the other hand recommend conscription in one form or another. Absence fathers , my bil is away due to his job , there’s millions within this country who work away due to there job , he’s a driver / rigger , have you not noticed the 1,000,s of Lorries parked in lay-bys / services on a night , what about servicemen , absence fathers are those who through there choice / or not there choice live permanetely away from there children , not fathers / mothers who due to work are away . I assume in your 60/70 yrs on this planet you’ve never spent a day away from your children ? As for me agreeing with going in the army , it doesn’t seem to have done my nephew any harm , ask him and he will tell you it’s the best thing that ever happened to him , though I’ve no doubt in your liberal leftie utopia he should of stayed in his bedroom with his mum & dad cooking his meals / washing his clothes etc etc .
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Post by ltdgas on May 29, 2024 8:02:15 GMT
The capital punishment murders went up by 125% in the 5 years. when? Link to data I wouldn’t bother putting data up for oldie Basel , he asked me for data , when I provided it for him , he then dismissed it because he didn’t like the links 🙄🙄, the only views he’s prepared to listen to are his own ,typical grumpy old git
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Post by eppinggas on May 29, 2024 8:21:19 GMT
It's a laughable gimmick. Wait a week or two and we will get "bringing back hanging". That will get the juices rising amongst the blood lusts. Not sure about hanging , but firing squads could give these young kids a bit of experience before going in the army & we’d not be wasting bullets on a firing range , and prisons are full I like it. Four birds with one stone. Youngsters are given some guidance. The prisons free up some capacity. Dangerous murderers are removed from society (permanently). The tax payer (you & me) are relieved of the financial burden of keeping these people in prison. Possible revenue streams through pay per view?
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Post by oldie on May 29, 2024 10:18:13 GMT
So absentee fathers are an issue. Strange that you laugh then, but on the other hand recommend conscription in one form or another. Absence fathers , my bil is away due to his job , there’s millions within this country who work away due to there job , he’s a driver / rigger , have you not noticed the 1,000,s of Lorries parked in lay-bys / services on a night , what about servicemen , absence fathers are those who through there choice / or not there choice live permanetely away from there children , not fathers / mothers who due to work are away . I assume in your 60/70 yrs on this planet you’ve never spent a day away from your children ? As for me agreeing with going in the army , it doesn’t seem to have done my nephew any harm , ask him and he will tell you it’s the best thing that ever happened to him , though I’ve no doubt in your liberal leftie utopia he should of stayed in his bedroom with his mum & dad cooking his meals / washing his clothes etc etc . Of course I have, but over an 18 year period it was a very small % of the time. And, I certainly did not spend time sitting on the sofa smoking spliffs with them, as you said a member of your family did. And yes, I do think absentee parents have a lot to answer for.
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Post by oldie on May 29, 2024 10:19:12 GMT
I wouldn’t bother putting data up for oldie Basel , he asked me for data , when I provided it for him , he then dismissed it because he didn’t like the links 🙄🙄, the only views he’s prepared to listen to are his own ,typical grumpy old git Probably because it was utter bollox Ltd.
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