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Post by baselswh on May 8, 2024 17:21:07 GMT
Monty Panesar has quit the party.I saw an interview with him recently and he put up in a poor innings.Naive and a lack of preparation.
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Post by oldie on May 8, 2024 18:57:46 GMT
Monty Panesar has quit the party.I saw an interview with him recently and he put up in a poor innings.Naive and a lack of preparation. š¦ Workers Party is equivalent to Reform. A bunch of loonies who never stand up to scrutiny. Just like their supporters |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 8, 2024 21:19:56 GMT
Monty Panesar has quit the party.I saw an interview with him recently and he put up in a poor innings.Naive and a lack of preparation. š¦ Workers Party is equivalent to Reform. A bunch of loonies who never stand up to scrutiny. Just like their supporters How to make friends and influence people.....the Oldie way. Let's put Labour and Conservatives up for scrutiny. What have we got? 60 years of constant failure and now you expect those same parties to fix the mess they themselves have made. Seriously, if you scrutinize both Labour and Tory you can only come to the conclusion that they have both failed consistently. And is there any need to call people 'loonies'? Please leave that sort of language to Gaschat and try to debate sensibly. |
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Post by oldie on May 8, 2024 22:08:16 GMT
Workers Party is equivalent to Reform. A bunch of loonies who never stand up to scrutiny. Just like their supporters How to make friends and influence people.....the Oldie way. Let's put Labour and Conservatives up for scrutiny. What have we got? 60 years of constant failure and now you expect those same parties to fix the mess they themselves have made. Seriously, if you scrutinize both Labour and Tory you can only come to the conclusion that they have both failed consistently. And is there any need to call people 'loonies'? Please leave that sort of language to Gaschat and try to debate sensibly.Ā How would you describe a man dressed as a cat on a TV show?? š¤š |
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Post by bluetornados on May 9, 2024 0:31:11 GMT
Ex-England cricketer Monty Panesar dumps bid to be MP for George Galloway's Worker's Party after a week..By Lizzy Buchan, Deputy Political Editor.i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article32761153.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_George-Galloway-Announces-Workers-Party-To-Challenge-Every-Seat-In-General-Election.jpgFormer England cricketer Monty Panesar has ditched plans to stand for George Galloway's Workers Party after only a week. Days after he was unveiled as a candidate for the left-wing outfit with great fanfare, Mr Panesar, 42, said he was stepping back to take "more time to listen, learn and find my political home, one that aligns with my personal and political values". His short innings will come as a blow to Mr Galloway, who proudly unveiled the ex-cricketer as a candidate in Ealing Southall, West London, where Labour has a majority of 16,084. Luton-born Mr Panesar had said he wanted to "represent the working class people of this country" and "make sure the gap between rich and poor gets closer" in a speech in Parliament Square last week. But he suggested today that he had already become disillusioned with Mr Galloway's party. In a statement posted on X, Mr Panesar said: "Iām a proud Brit who has had the honour to represent my country at the highest level of cricket. I now want to do my bit to help others but I recognise I am at the beginning of my journey and still learning about how politics can help people. "So today I am withdrawing as a General Election candidate for The Workers Party. I realise I need more time to listen, learn and find my political home, one that aligns with my personal and political values. I wish The Workers Party all the best but look forward to taking some time to mature and find my political feet so I am well prepared to deliver my very best when I next run up to the political wicket." Since retiring from county cricket, Mr Panesar has studied sports journalism and has been working as a freelance journalist and writer. Political veteran Mr Galloway, who returned to Parliament after winning the Rochdale by-election in February, has been making wild threats about unseating Labour MPs such as Angela Rayner and David Lammy at the general election. But the divisive politician's claims about potential defectors from the party have so far not been borne out. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/30/15/84271419-13365835-image-a-22_1714487355325.jpg
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2024 5:58:49 GMT
Taking this point seriously
"Let's put Labour and Conservatives up for scrutiny. What have we got? 60 years of constant failure and now you expect those same parties to fix the mess they themselves have made. Seriously, if you scrutinize both Labour and Tory you can only come to the conclusion that they have both failed consistently."
To apply a such a broad brush statement disables a detailed debate.
So take one sector at a time, which sector do you feel have consecutive governments failed consistently? Your choice, starter for ten.
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Post by baselswh on May 9, 2024 17:03:20 GMT
Monty Panesar has quit the party.I saw an interview with him recently and he put up in a poor innings.Naive and a lack of preparation. š¦ Workers Party is equivalent to Reform. A bunch of loonies who never stand up to scrutiny. Just like their supporters Still,you could be forgiven in thinking a left arm spinner might come in handy. |
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Post by baselswh on May 9, 2024 17:07:24 GMT
Taking this point seriously "Let's put Labour and Conservatives up for scrutiny. What have we got? 60 years of constant failure and now you expect those same parties to fix the mess they themselves have made. Seriously, if you scrutinize both Labour and Tory you can only come to the conclusion that they have both failed consistently." To apply a such a broad brush statement disables a detailed debate. So take one sector at a time, which sector do you feel have consecutive governments failed consistently? Your choice, starter for ten. Natalie Elphickle,just made the walk in Parliament from the Conservatives to Labour. Apparently she thought the Royal Navy should engage the French Navy in the Channel,if any illegal immigrant boats got sunk in said engagement then tough. From 'Right' to 'Left' she goes.š¤Ŗ |
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2024 18:04:14 GMT
Taking this point seriously "Let's put Labour and Conservatives up for scrutiny. What have we got? 60 years of constant failure and now you expect those same parties to fix the mess they themselves have made. Seriously, if you scrutinize both Labour and Tory you can only come to the conclusion that they have both failed consistently." To apply a such a broad brush statement disables a detailed debate. So take one sector at a time, which sector do you feel have consecutive governments failed consistently? Your choice, starter for ten. Natalie Elphickle,just made the walk in Parliament from the Conservatives to Labour. Apparently she thought the Royal Navy should engage the French Navy in the Channel,if any illegal immigrant boats got sunk in said engagement then tough. From 'Right' to 'Left' she goes.š¤Ŗ Why are you quoting my question to Nobby with that stuff? |
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Post by oldie on May 9, 2024 18:04:57 GMT
Workers Party is equivalent to Reform. A bunch of loonies who never stand up to scrutiny. Just like their supporters Still,you could be forgiven in thinking a left arm spinner might come in handy. I have no idea what that means |
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Post by lostinspace on May 9, 2024 18:27:43 GMT
Still,you could be forgiven in thinking a left arm spinner might come in handy. I have no idea what that means [br Can't...or don't want to see the rather humourous pun from Bas... Read it slowly as this is also how Monty Panesar also delivers his trade šššššš.... over!! |
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Post by baselswh on May 9, 2024 18:49:07 GMT
Natalie Elphickle,just made the walk in Parliament from the Conservatives to Labour. Apparently she thought the Royal Navy should engage the French Navy in the Channel,if any illegal immigrant boats got sunk in said engagement then tough. From 'Right' to 'Left' she goes.š¤Ŗ Why are you quoting my question to Nobby with that stuff? Well,an MP as apparently Right Wing as Elphickle ,crosses the floor and fits snugly into Labour. Abit of scrutiny results in much of muchness. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 10, 2024 7:21:34 GMT
I think both Tories and Labour are deeply concerned over Natalie Elphickle crossing the chamber.
She is right wing and as MP for Dover has a high profile in the fight against the small boat armada. Dismay at Tory failings (as articulately pointed out by Robert Jenrick on LBC yesterday) I can totally understand. But to join Labour? Madness. Labour MP's think it's madness. I guess Sir Keir will just take anyone.
At this rate Nigel Farage might get an invitation.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 10, 2024 7:37:22 GMT
I think both Tories and Labour are deeply concerned over Natalie Elphickle crossing the chamber. She is right wing and as MP for Dover has a high profile in the fight against the small boat armada. Dismay at Tory failings (as articulately pointed out by Robert Jenrick on LBC yesterday) I can totally understand. But to join Labour? Madness. Labour MP's think it's madness. I guess Sir Keir will just take anyone. At this rate Nigel Farage might get an invitation. The view on the street is that she will get a seat in the Lords for her troubles. Her actions demonstrate just why the general public hold politicians in such disdain. |
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Post by oldie on May 10, 2024 7:51:47 GMT
Take a hugely damaging image of one of the Tory party's leading members of the ERG and one who sought to "explain" her ex husbands illegality (she has apologised) sitting on the opposition benches behind the opposition leader at PMQs, a PMQs session immediately after a disastrous local election results, which opposition party faced with a GE would not take the opportunity?
Is it damaging to the opposition? Nah, it's funny. She will only be there for a few months (like a lot of Tory MPs) so no damage done to pay for that moment.
Meanwhile Tories and their shrinking support base try and pretend it's a problem for Labour.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 10, 2024 8:57:50 GMT
Take a hugely damaging image of one of the Tory party's leading members of the ERG and one who sought to "explain" her ex husbands illegality (she has apologised) sitting on the opposition benches behind the opposition leader at PMQs, a PMQs session immediately after a disastrous local election results, which opposition party faced with a GE would not take the opportunity? Is it damaging to the opposition? Nah, it's funny. She will only be there for a few months (like a lot of Tory MPs) so no damage done to pay for that moment. Meanwhile Tories and their shrinking support base try and pretend it's a problem for Labour. Laughable Nobody is pretending it's a problem for Labour. It's a problem for our democracy that people like this are allowed to represent the public. |
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Post by oldie on May 10, 2024 9:12:36 GMT
Take a hugely damaging image of one of the Tory party's leading members of the ERG and one who sought to "explain" her ex husbands illegality (she has apologised) sitting on the opposition benches behind the opposition leader at PMQs, a PMQs session immediately after a disastrous local election results, which opposition party faced with a GE would not take the opportunity? Is it damaging to the opposition? Nah, it's funny. She will only be there for a few months (like a lot of Tory MPs) so no damage done to pay for that moment. Meanwhile Tories and their shrinking support base try and pretend it's a problem for Labour. Laughable Nobody is pretending it's a problem for Labour. It's a problem for our democracy that people like this are allowed to represent the public. I agree on that last point. It is a problem for our Democracy that politicians and wannabe politicians can stand before the public and lie about policy outcomes and proceed to gaslight the UK population by invoking nationalism and a false narrative on history. Shameful. So glad you agree. |
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Post by lostinspace on May 10, 2024 16:15:36 GMT
Nobody is pretending it's a problem for Labour. It's a problem for our democracy that people like this are allowed to represent the public. I agree on that last point. It is a problem for our Democracy that politicians and wannabe politicians can stand before the public and lie about policy outcomes and proceed to gaslight the UK population by invoking nationalism and a false narrative on history. Shameful. So glad you agree. Is this because it is relatively easy to become a " career politician".or because they are just that lazy to " get a proper job" |
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Post by trymer on May 10, 2024 19:00:07 GMT
Starmer moans because "people think that all politicians are the same" then he takes Natalie Elphick into his party much to the dismay of some Labour MPs.
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Post by bluetornados on May 10, 2024 23:03:12 GMT
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