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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 11, 2024 7:02:58 GMT
So by your curt reply,I assume you don't disagree with these people's actions, regardless of who or what did what and when,these people by their rather pathetic actions are now criminals. . BUT, because it is associated with the current situation in the East ,they will get a slapped wrist and given a packet of sweets to show that everything is fine,carry on as you are.. Your assumption is incorrect. What I do not disagree with is stating historical facts. Important because, as most members on here exemplify, so money people have no idea. Some members on here demanded context for some of my comments, the protesters here provided their context and it is steeped in historical facts. All good, but destruction of an artifact is just gesture politics and I don't agree. Historical facts Oldie? Well it is an historical fact that the Jews were living in the area long before Islam was even created, so they have 'historical facts' behind them. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 11, 2024 9:37:57 GMT
Your assumption is incorrect. What I do not disagree with is stating historical facts. Important because, as most members on here exemplify, so money people have no idea. Some members on here demanded context for some of my comments, the protesters here provided their context and it is steeped in historical facts. All good, but destruction of an artifact is just gesture politics and I don't agree. Historical facts Oldie? Well it is an historical fact that the Jews were living in the area long before Islam was even created, so they have 'historical facts' behind them. We have covered this. As previously pointed out that area of the world was not set up as countries as we know it with clearly defined borders. Different tribes ebbed and flowed in terms of control the genetic variations of those tribes being miniscule. They were all fundamentally Semites divided mostly by choice of god . It's a lazy and pretty useless trope to say Jews have always lived there. The real source of the current disaster is the Balfour Declaration, The British Mandate over Palestine, because we effed that up. Out of self interest. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 11, 2024 10:14:31 GMT
Historical facts Oldie? Well it is an historical fact that the Jews were living in the area long before Islam was even created, so they have 'historical facts' behind them. We have covered this. As previously pointed out that area of the world was not set up as countries as we know it with clearly defined borders. Different tribes ebbed and flowed in terms of control the genetic variations of those tribes being miniscule. They were all fundamentally Semites divided mostly by choice of god . It's a lazy and pretty useless trope to say Jews have always lived there. The real source of the current disaster is the Balfour Declaration, The British Mandate over Palestine, because we effed that up. Out of self interest. But on another day you personally argue for borders to return the their pre-1967 state. Another day you'll say the problems go back to 1948 and the UN mandate to declare Israel as a nation? What is it to be? 1967, 1948 or 1918? Where do you draw the line at 'historical fact'? It is not a lazy trope to mention the fact that the Jews lived there for hundreds of years before Islam was created. It's historical fact, which you seem very keen to keep shouting about. The Palestinians tried to take over Jordan, and were kicked out. They then moved to Lebenon, and were kicked out, before finally settling in Gaza and the West Bank. They had the chance to run Gaza as they wanted. Gaza has been the biggest recipient of aid, by far, than anywhere else on the planet. Aid money has poured into Gaza, and what did they do with it? They had free water and electricity from Israel. 50,000 Palestinians a day crossed over to Israel to work. With all that help just what did the Palestinians produce? Nothing but hatred and death. The Israelis were given land that was just a barren wasteland. What did they do with it? Well, they turned that country into a modern, democratic, free thinking, liberal country. The world needs more countries that produce, create and provide environments that benefit the people on this planet. We need to get rid of those countries that only produce death, destruction and hatred. You'd be better off to stop trying to blame the British for everything. The world in 1918 and 1948 were completely different to the current world. |
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Post by trymer on Mar 11, 2024 14:22:37 GMT
did anyone see the "protesters" disrupting the opening of a holocaust museum in the Netherlands yesterday ? surely a hate crime ?
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 23, 2024 22:42:12 GMT
did anyone see the "protesters" disrupting the opening of a holocaust museum in the Netherlands yesterday ? surely a hate crime ? Antisemitism is not now a hate crime. Welcome to London, 2024. |
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