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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 19, 2024 8:58:02 GMT
Meanwhile Ltd's favourite media outlet (sic) the inappropriately named GB News, held a poll this weekend www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/gb-news-rejoin-eu-poll-hijacked-368905/Tried to hide votes behind a paywall (Trump style grifting) Then they lost control As voters got around the paywall, this happened "GB News poll backfires, as 90% of voters choose to βrejoin the EUβ" It's all a bit of a joke as everything is with that excuse for a news channel, but come on...you have to bloody laugh. Perhaps only champagne socialists living in leafy suburbs voted...πππ A poll? Really? You still believe this nonsense?
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Post by oldie on Feb 19, 2024 12:42:01 GMT
Meanwhile Ltd's favourite media outlet (sic) the inappropriately named GB News, held a poll this weekend www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/gb-news-rejoin-eu-poll-hijacked-368905/Tried to hide votes behind a paywall (Trump style grifting) Then they lost control As voters got around the paywall, this happened "GB News poll backfires, as 90% of voters choose to βrejoin the EUβ" It's all a bit of a joke as everything is with that excuse for a news channel, but come on...you have to bloody laugh. Perhaps only champagne socialists living in leafy suburbs voted...πππ A poll? Really? You still believe this nonsense? Because I am working class πππ
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Post by oldie on Feb 20, 2024 21:12:44 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 21, 2024 8:28:06 GMT
It's behind a paywall, obviously only read by those who will already agree with any analysis that the anti-Brexit Bloomberg will come up with........a bit like GBnews, which you criticized πππ
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Post by oldie on Feb 21, 2024 18:17:00 GMT
It's behind a paywall, obviously only read by those who will already agree with any analysis that the anti-Brexit Bloomberg will come up with........a bit like GBnews, which you criticized πππ Perhaps But you can hardly claim that Bloomberg is a loony left wing rag. They do tend to look at the details, hardly something that GB News, or Reform, can claim. Are any of them "working class"? πππ
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 22, 2024 5:20:35 GMT
It's behind a paywall, obviously only read by those who will already agree with any analysis that the anti-Brexit Bloomberg will come up with........a bit like GBnews, which you criticized πππ Perhaps But you can hardly claim that Bloomberg is a loony left wing rag. They do tend to look at the details, hardly something that GB News, or Reform, can claim. Are any of them "working class"? πππ No, Bloomberg are not left-wing loonies, and GBnews are not right-wing loonies. Both have differing editorial viewpoints, but to describe either in the way you do is very immature and childish isn't it.
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Post by oldie on Feb 22, 2024 5:32:43 GMT
Perhaps But you can hardly claim that Bloomberg is a loony left wing rag. They do tend to look at the details, hardly something that GB News, or Reform, can claim. Are any of them "working class"? πππ No, Bloomberg are not left-wing loonies, and GBnews are not right-wing loonies. Both have differing editorial viewpoints, but to describe either in the way you do is very immature and childish isn't it. I do not believe you take GB News seriously Nobby.
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 22, 2024 7:18:51 GMT
No, Bloomberg are not left-wing loonies, and GBnews are not right-wing loonies. Both have differing editorial viewpoints, but to describe either in the way you do is very immature and childish isn't it. I do not believe you take GB News seriously Nobby. No I don't, but then again I don't take Bloomberg seriously either as their editorial stance is constantly anti-UK and anti-Brexit. Both slant their output to reflect their thinking when the reality is that news organizations should report the news and not try to influence it.
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Post by oldie on Feb 22, 2024 9:59:01 GMT
I do not believe you take GB News seriously Nobby. No I don't, but then again I don't take Bloomberg seriously either as their editorial stance is constantly anti-UK and anti-Brexit. Both slant their output to reflect their thinking when the reality is that news organizations should report the news and not try to influence it. Well We can agree about GB news at least. I never thought of Bloomberg as being political, one way or another. I read it almost exclusively for it's business and economic writing, which is always, as far as I read it, based upon actual events or current stats. For overtly political opinion I read Project Syndicate which has an array of writers from across political spectrum.
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 22, 2024 10:05:13 GMT
No I don't, but then again I don't take Bloomberg seriously either as their editorial stance is constantly anti-UK and anti-Brexit. Both slant their output to reflect their thinking when the reality is that news organizations should report the news and not try to influence it. Well We can agree about GB news at least. I never thought of Bloomberg as being political, one way or another. I read it almost exclusively for it's business and economic writing, which is always, as far as I read it, based upon actual events or current stats. For overtly political opinion I read Project Syndicate which has an array of writers from across political spectrum. Bloomberg are known as being anti-Brexit.
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Post by oldie on Feb 22, 2024 10:07:50 GMT
Well We can agree about GB news at least. I never thought of Bloomberg as being political, one way or another. I read it almost exclusively for it's business and economic writing, which is always, as far as I read it, based upon actual events or current stats. For overtly political opinion I read Project Syndicate which has an array of writers from across political spectrum. Bloomberg are known as being anti-Brexit. Perhaps the facts led them to that conclusion π€ππ Meanwhile Over on GB News x.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1760243914244563018?s=20Epping's hero doing his bit for the country πππ
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 22, 2024 11:21:18 GMT
You mean in the same way that facts lead GB News to their conclusions?
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Post by oldie on Feb 22, 2024 16:49:01 GMT
You mean in the same way that facts lead GB News to their conclusions? Using the word "facts" in the same sentence as GB News is an oxymoron π
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Post by oldie on Feb 22, 2024 17:19:50 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 23, 2024 11:40:03 GMT
Are you aware that companies listed in London, Frankfurt, Paris etc have been moving to the New York exchange over the last year? Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. Other factors are in play here. Do you think this has happened or is happening, because of Brexit? I would like to hear your thoughts on this rather than just a link to something behind a paywall.
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Post by oldie on Feb 23, 2024 13:59:53 GMT
Are you aware that companies listed in London, Frankfurt, Paris etc have been moving to the New York exchange over the last year? Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. Other factors are in play here. Do you think this has happened or is happening, because of Brexit? I would like to hear your thoughts on this rather than just a link to something behind a paywall. Russ Mould, investment director at the AJ Bell platform, said: "Overseas investors lost interest in the trading venue as soon as the UK voted in favour of Brexit, and valuations have got even cheaper. Thatβs hardly a good sales pitch to attract more big companies to the UK market.β The FT, Feb 2021 "Amsterdam surpassed London as Europeβs largest share trading centre last month as the Netherlands scooped up business lost by the UK since Brexit. An average β¬9.2bn shares a day were traded on Euronext Amsterdam and the Dutch arms of CBOE Europe and Turquoise in January, a more than fourfold increase from December. The surge came as volumes in London fell sharply to β¬8.6bn, dislodging the UK from its historic position as the main hub for the European market, according to data from CBOE Europe."
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 23, 2024 15:20:41 GMT
Are you aware that companies listed in London, Frankfurt, Paris etc have been moving to the New York exchange over the last year? Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. Other factors are in play here. Do you think this has happened or is happening, because of Brexit? I would like to hear your thoughts on this rather than just a link to something behind a paywall. Russ Mould, investment director at the AJ Bell platform, said: "Overseas investors lost interest in the trading venue as soon as the UK voted in favour of Brexit, and valuations have got even cheaper. Thatβs hardly a good sales pitch to attract more big companies to the UK market.β The FT, Feb 2021 "Amsterdam surpassed London as Europeβs largest share trading centre last month as the Netherlands scooped up business lost by the UK since Brexit. An average β¬9.2bn shares a day were traded on Euronext Amsterdam and the Dutch arms of CBOE Europe and Turquoise in January, a more than fourfold increase from December. The surge came as volumes in London fell sharply to β¬8.6bn, dislodging the UK from its historic position as the main hub for the European market, according to data from CBOE Europe." So now you're are jumping around. Your first part is talking about IPO's, and the last bit is talking about just Trading. Both don't really have anything to do with companies moving to the New York exchange. After 25 rip roaring years in the City you must be aware that Trading is just a small part of the whole structure? Why can't we talk about why companies prefer to be listed in New York?
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 23, 2024 15:29:18 GMT
You never mentioned firms like CRH or Arm Holdings. Both huge companies that have moved their listings to New York. You also failed to mention the companies that have moved to being listed in London? Why is this? It is not a one-way street.
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Post by oldie on Feb 23, 2024 17:08:52 GMT
Russ Mould, investment director at the AJ Bell platform, said: "Overseas investors lost interest in the trading venue as soon as the UK voted in favour of Brexit, and valuations have got even cheaper. Thatβs hardly a good sales pitch to attract more big companies to the UK market.β The FT, Feb 2021 "Amsterdam surpassed London as Europeβs largest share trading centre last month as the Netherlands scooped up business lost by the UK since Brexit. An average β¬9.2bn shares a day were traded on Euronext Amsterdam and the Dutch arms of CBOE Europe and Turquoise in January, a more than fourfold increase from December. The surge came as volumes in London fell sharply to β¬8.6bn, dislodging the UK from its historic position as the main hub for the European market, according to data from CBOE Europe." So now you're are jumping around. Your first part is talking about IPO's, and the last bit is talking about just Trading. Both don't really have anything to do with companies moving to the New York exchange. After 25 rip roaring years in the City you must be aware that Trading is just a small part of the whole structure? Why can't we talk about why companies prefer to be listed in New York? stop it Nobby, just cut the personal stuff, it is so unnecessary. I know the breadth of financial services in the City is beyond the LSE, but it is indicative.
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Post by oldie on Feb 23, 2024 17:28:09 GMT
You never mentioned firms like CRH or Arm Holdings. Both huge companies that have moved their listings to New York. You also failed to mention the companies that have moved to being listed in London? Why is this? It is not a one-way street. I didn't mention ARM because it was SoftBank that drove that after our Government blocked the sale to Nvidia. Nothing to do with capital availability and deliverable value. SoftBank just got "assy" about it. Funny story. My son was at Uni in 98, "Economics" He called me and said he had to write an essay on a British company with growth potential etc. I told him about Arm, which was about 8 years old at the time. Then Apple released the iPhone "Apple silicon refers to a series of system on a chip (SoC) and system in a package (SiP) processors designed by Apple Inc., mainly using the ARM architecture. They are the basis of Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, AirPods, AirTag, HomePod, and Apple Vision Pro devices." Oh god, missed itππ
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