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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 29, 2023 12:54:59 GMT
I've just listened to it. He fronted up, I thought. Doesn't seem to seek publicity, but will front up when required
I still think that he doesn't like the attention that the former manager brought to the club, nor the behaviours, but he's clearly too professional to mention it - good on him
Sounded like a man who is used to running things (so feel I've got to presume that the South Stand debacle must have largely happened before he got his feet under the desk), and who has little time for pipe dreams
So overall very encouraging
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 30, 2023 0:35:07 GMT
Thinking about this a bit more...
I don't think Wael would have binned JB at this stage if he was still the majority owner. He was still too invested in the JB regime, and probably too nice, to have done so
I don't think Wael would have gone public with the 'Fruit Market is dead' message either. He's too positive, or too much of a people pleaser, to have done so
And I don't think Wael would have gone with the 'we want club men, not the manager's men' change - as JB has stated that one of his conditions for joining was that he'd have control
Mr Al Saeed said they joined with the intention of making changes, and it seems he's very much made a start
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 30, 2023 8:55:20 GMT
With Barton gone, who else is likely to follow? We have a few FIFO players and club staff apparently.
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 30, 2023 9:14:06 GMT
Tom G on the verge and the scouse mafia must be having sleepless nights
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 11:15:38 GMT
I think Gorringe is fine, surely aware that he was rather fortunate to have had such an ascent in the first place, and likely to attract more lucrative employment as a former CEO than as the former retail manager he would otherwise have been. I don't know all the details, obviously, but my impression is that he got plenty right, and plenty wrong, but that there may be better personnel available for recruitment, if the owner so chooses. No rush, though.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 30, 2023 11:25:09 GMT
Tom G on the verge and the scouse mafia must be having sleepless nights I hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 11:31:09 GMT
Tom G on the verge and the scouse mafia must be having sleepless nights I hope so. Due to performance, or treatment of staff, o2o2bo2ba?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 30, 2023 11:40:21 GMT
Dur to performance, or treatment of staff, o2o2bo2ba ? The way the new guy worded it, it seems perfectly right to have club staff and not managers mates. There would always be a nagging doubt that if Barton gets another job, they would go with him.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 30, 2023 11:41:28 GMT
Dur to performance, or treatment of staff, o2o2bo2ba? Bit of both, but mainly the latter. It's not as if some of the nepotistic replacements have had any tangible positive influence..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 11:48:49 GMT
Yes these expensive clearouts and new slates take ages to gel, if ever they do, and keep recurring, perennially. The new regime clears out the rot, then becomes the rot, to be cleared out by another new regime. Rubbish. One director should recruit all coaching staff, who remain after a head coach or manager's departure, and who may replace said manager, like both DC and GC did. Long-term stability, cost efficiency, a club identity and philosophy.
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Post by The Concept on Oct 30, 2023 12:35:27 GMT
What has happened to TG's 'Insider Knowledge' column, the past couple of games, in the match-day programme?
How come the CEO seems to have been so quiet when we've had the manager sacked? Has he even been heard from? I've only seen the owner make a statement so far. And I've only heard that JB and AM have spoken with the Owner and President.
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Post by bondigas on Oct 30, 2023 16:03:57 GMT
Well Gorringe is meant to be attending the Supporters Club AGM next week and do a Q & A afterwards. I wonder if Mr Al Saeed will risk or allow him to attend the meeting,the South Stand debacle began with him and probably ends with his demise. That's probably why they have stopped him featuring the IK piece in the programme.
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 30, 2023 17:27:41 GMT
What has happened to TG's 'Insider Knowledge' column, the past couple of games, in the match-day programme? How come the CEO seems to have been so quiet when we've had the manager sacked? Has he even been heard from? I've only seen the owner make a statement so far. And I've only heard that JB and AM have spoken with the Owner and President. Perhaps his insider knowledge has ceased? I really don't mind TG. But CEO was always going to be stretch for him. In these sort of situations I think it unlikely he would be demoted. For the times they are a changin'.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 6, 2023 18:24:04 GMT
What has happened to TG's 'Insider Knowledge' column, the past couple of games, in the match-day programme? How come the CEO seems to have been so quiet when we've had the manager sacked? Has he even been heard from? I've only seen the owner make a statement so far. And I've only heard that JB and AM have spoken with the Owner and President. Perhaps his insider knowledge has ceased? I really don't mind TG. But CEO was always going to be stretch for him. In these sort of situations I think it unlikely he would be demoted. For the times they are a changin'. The Concept - Any news from Tom in the Whitby programme? A new owner, and nothing said by the CEO. Eh? I can only draw one conclusion. And if that conclusion is correct, I really don't wish him any ill.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 6, 2023 19:09:46 GMT
Perhaps his insider knowledge has ceased? I really don't mind TG. But CEO was always going to be stretch for him. In these sort of situations I think it unlikely he would be demoted. For the times they are a changin'. The Concept - Any news from Tom in the Whitby programme? A new owner, and nothing said by the CEO. Eh? I can only draw one conclusion. And if that conclusion is correct, I really don't wish him any ill. Nope! Nuffink! Although our programme is a poor shadow of how it used to be, it was fairly decent sized for a 1st Round FA Cup tie on Saturday. I didn't make much of it at the time, but surely the sacking of a manager should be announced by the CEO? All we got was a small club statement, not ascribed to anyone, and no interviews with him since - eventually a few days later with the new owner.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 6, 2023 19:45:47 GMT
Perhaps his insider knowledge has ceased? I really don't mind TG. But CEO was always going to be stretch for him. In these sort of situations I think it unlikely he would be demoted. For the times they are a changin'. The Concept - Any news from Tom in the Whitby programme? A new owner, and nothing said by the CEO. Eh? I can only draw one conclusion. And if that conclusion is correct, I really don't wish him any ill. p.s. And I meant to comment on this before; something you posted recently on the Oxford MDT struck a chord ... "Only just heard about the result. I just don't care any more. Ah, it was the officials what done Rovers then. Got it. Barton hasn't laid into one of the team as a scapegoat then. This week, 'tis the officials what done the Gas. When will this endless gobsh*tery end? When will his brainless sycophants see through this crap?
Barton is a stain on BRFC. Hopefully it is not an indelible one."You got a bit of abuse for it. Comments from a couple of people with stuff like "Bye, bye" ... "You won't be missed". Not sure how it was for you. For me I've had the feeling that I just don't care for quite some time. It's not as some might think, if you're reading those words in print, that it's a naaah nah-nah nah-nah, don't care anyway, turn your back and stomp off. No, it's just a sad realisation that the result of the game, either way, has no impact on you. I used to come home from games with a sore throat from cheering the team on. But then I found myself just sat quietly watching the game or chatting. Sometimes I used to get home with scrages on the shins from the seat in front, jumping in the air when we scored. But then found myself giving a cheer and quietly getting to my feet and applauding. If we lost I used to have a gloomy rest of the weekend. But then no longer affected. I'd gone from listening to away games on the Radio, or watching on I-Follow, to looking up the scores after the final whistle. I'd stopped going to the early rounds of cup games that my season-ticket didn't cover. It was a horrible feeling. Something that had been such a huge part of your life, for 50 years plus, now didn't have a meaning. And to compound it all, I was reading forums and social media, that people who thought the same way as me were told "Bye, bye" ... "You won't be missed" ... "Go to Trashton". Horrible. Barton gone and people said "Can we all get on now?" I don't know. I certainly won't forget those posters who made me feel like s**t. I know of 4 people who had stopped going. None appear to be ready to return. It seems time has passed and they've found other things to do. One was more fanatical than me, every game home and away, but currently watching Mangotsfield instead. Another was heavily involved with BRFPA, wrote for the programme, but when I spoke to him at a gig in the summer he didn't seem to want to talk about Rovers at all - weekends now taken up with the family. And I think it's going to take some time for me to get the feeling back. I wouldn't have gone Saturday if my dad didn't want someone to go with. But a cloud has certainly lifted, and it has been better.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 6, 2023 20:44:47 GMT
Copy & paste from other thread. Lots of threads for the same thing!
Mr Al-Saeed came across very well. Two points on his comments about the development though. I've said some of this before...
1) Stage 2 should be the North Stand, not East Stand. - You can build a seating stand behind the terracing on the footprint of the current clubhouse. - Keep the terracing, Convert to safe-standing, if required, at a later time. - You increase capacity without having to reduce it during build.
2) Don't build north and south wings on the existing East Stand - knock it down and start again. - Despite the fact that the pitch had to be moved a metre away from the stand, due to the sightlines after it was built, you still can't see the corners of the pitch, and it would only get worse if you build either side. - Build a new stand, further from the pitch, with better sightlines, the whole length, and higher. - You can add further hospitality boxes. - You can better configure the rooms inside for hospitality, offices, shop, and Community Trust education suites.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 6, 2023 23:29:38 GMT
What has happened to TG's 'Insider Knowledge' column, the past couple of games, in the match-day programme? How come the CEO seems to have been so quiet when we've had the manager sacked? Has he even been heard from? I've only seen the owner make a statement so far. And I've only heard that JB and AM have spoken with the Owner and President. Wouldn’t the Head of Football Operations be the senior executive who told the manager he had been relieved of his duties ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 0:54:12 GMT
What has happened to TG's 'Insider Knowledge' column, the past couple of games, in the match-day programme? How come the CEO seems to have been so quiet when we've had the manager sacked? Has he even been heard from? I've only seen the owner make a statement so far. And I've only heard that JB and AM have spoken with the Owner and President. Wouldn’t the Head of Football Operations be the senior executive who told the manager he had been relieved of his duties ? Ha, Joeys minder sacking his boss, highly unlikely. I'm more likely to believe the rumours that Wael did the dirty deed but not sure he did it in the same room as the ex manager.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 7, 2023 8:06:49 GMT
What has happened to TG's 'Insider Knowledge' column, the past couple of games, in the match-day programme? How come the CEO seems to have been so quiet when we've had the manager sacked? Has he even been heard from? I've only seen the owner make a statement so far. And I've only heard that JB and AM have spoken with the Owner and President. Wouldn’t the Head of Football Operations be the senior executive who told the manager he had been relieved of his duties ? Eddy Jennings. I was going to say he has been unusually quiet. Then realised he hasn't said anything. Ever. But he must be on the endangered list.
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