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Post by baselswh on May 14, 2024 15:51:40 GMT
Is it correct Jewish peoples first claim to Israel goes back to 1300 BC,when Moses led them out of Egypt,to the Holy land. As far as Oldie is concerned it all started in 1947 ! The Jewish people are completely justified in having their land,from 1948 and before as well. The Jewish people, on having Israel in 48 officially invited Arabs to stay and become citizens. The surrounding Arab states responded to the state of Israel's existence by declaring war. "Without the lies,Islam dies". |
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Post by oldie on May 14, 2024 22:02:27 GMT
And Rwanda is a safe country. Oh, hang on🤔😂😂 It must be, The UN also have immigration places in Rwanda? Even the EU are in Rwanda....... "During his visit to Rwanda, Commissioner for International Cooperation and Development Neven Mimica has announced a €10.3 million support package to the UNHCR's Emergency Transit Mechanism (ETM) in Rwanda, which provides a life-saving avenue out of Libya for people in need of international protection, with a view to their further resettlement. The funding is provided through the Emergency Trust Fund for Africa. This initiative builds on the example of the ETM Niger, through which more than 2,900 refugees and asylum seekers have been evacuated out of Libya since 2017. High Representative/Vice-President Federica Mogherini said: “The Emergency Transit Mechanism in Rwanda is a vital life-saving measure to bring people in need of international protection out of Libya. It is an important sign of African solidarity and of partnership with the European Union. It broadens the support to the most vulnerable people held in Libyan detention centres that need to be closed urgently.” Commissioner Mimica said: “This project will support efforts of the Government of Rwanda to receive and provide protection to about 1,500 refugees and asylum-seekers who are currently being held in detention centres in Libya. Such a remarkable and powerful proof of African solidarity should be further encouraged, replicated and supported.” Background The UNHCR has evacuated more than 4,250 refugees and asylum-seekers out of Libya to other countries since 2017. However, around 4,700 people are currently estimated to be held in dire conditions inside detention centres in the country. They urgently need to be moved to safety and to be provided with protection, lifesaving assistance, and durable solutions. Following the escalation in and around Tripoli, namely the July air strike on a migrant detention centre, the EU continues to support the vital work of the Gathering and Departure Facility on location." The EU and RwandaArsenal wear 'visit Rwanda' signs on their shirts! So Rwanda, a country that committed genocide, is safer than Libya which has terrorised their own people for decades. Who knew? Is that the appropriate comparison? I guess it is if anyone is blind, wearing an inverted balaclava and subjects themselves to blind prejudice. Meanwhile the poor people of Libya (we bombed them) are living a nightmare (we turn them away as refugees) and the poor people of Rwanda have to forget the atrocities we turned a blind eye to. Meanwhile someone on here tells us we must believe that Moses parted the Red Sea to establish the Israeli state. 😂😂😂 |
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Post by francegas on May 14, 2024 22:47:59 GMT
Lineker needs to open his eyes or at least read a book if he seriously believes what Israel are doing in Gaza is the worst he has seen in his lifetime. He's 63 years old and conveniently seems to have forgotten about the genocides in Cambodia, Sudan, Congo, Rwanda etc etc which all occurred during his lifetime. Oh and Gary it wasn't a "Hamas thing" it was an attack on innocent people by a terrorist organisation And Rwanda is a safe country. Oh, hang on🤔😂😂 Well 1.4 million tourists who visited Rwanda last year certainly thought it safe enough. |
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Post by baselswh on May 15, 2024 6:19:11 GMT
Archeological evidence of Jewish people in the Holy Land date back over 1000 years BC.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 15, 2024 6:30:03 GMT
It must be, The UN also have immigration places in Rwanda? Even the EU are in Rwanda....... "During his visit to Rwanda, Commissioner for International Cooperation and Development Neven Mimica has announced a €10.3 million support package to the UNHCR's Emergency Transit Mechanism (ETM) in Rwanda, which provides a life-saving avenue out of Libya for people in need of international protection, with a view to their further resettlement. The funding is provided through the Emergency Trust Fund for Africa. This initiative builds on the example of the ETM Niger, through which more than 2,900 refugees and asylum seekers have been evacuated out of Libya since 2017. High Representative/Vice-President Federica Mogherini said: “The Emergency Transit Mechanism in Rwanda is a vital life-saving measure to bring people in need of international protection out of Libya. It is an important sign of African solidarity and of partnership with the European Union. It broadens the support to the most vulnerable people held in Libyan detention centres that need to be closed urgently.” Commissioner Mimica said: “This project will support efforts of the Government of Rwanda to receive and provide protection to about 1,500 refugees and asylum-seekers who are currently being held in detention centres in Libya. Such a remarkable and powerful proof of African solidarity should be further encouraged, replicated and supported.” Background The UNHCR has evacuated more than 4,250 refugees and asylum-seekers out of Libya to other countries since 2017. However, around 4,700 people are currently estimated to be held in dire conditions inside detention centres in the country. They urgently need to be moved to safety and to be provided with protection, lifesaving assistance, and durable solutions. Following the escalation in and around Tripoli, namely the July air strike on a migrant detention centre, the EU continues to support the vital work of the Gathering and Departure Facility on location." The EU and RwandaArsenal wear 'visit Rwanda' signs on their shirts! So Rwanda, a country that committed genocide, is safer than Libya which has terrorised their own people for decades. Who knew? Is that the appropriate comparison? I guess it is if anyone is blind, wearing an inverted balaclava and subjects themselves to blind prejudice. Meanwhile the poor people of Libya (we bombed them) are living a nightmare (we turn them away as refugees) and the poor people of Rwanda have to forget the atrocities we turned a blind eye to. Meanwhile someone on here tells us we must believe that Moses parted the Red Sea to establish the Israeli state. 😂😂😂 Have you any idea as to what is going on in Libya at the moment? You don't do you. Oh, and it wasn't the 'country' that committed genocide. It was tribal. You really should read and learn a bit more and shake off those entrenched views you have of the world. It seems as though you are the one being sucked in by the media. Are you aware the genocide was 30 years ago? Things have moved on since then. |
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Post by baselswh on May 15, 2024 6:32:26 GMT
Rwanda is probably alot safer for our illegal antisemites,than the UK is for our Jewish people.
'That's a one way ticket to Rwanda sir,thank you'.....
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Post by baselswh on May 15, 2024 6:41:23 GMT
[quote Oldie.
Meanwhile someone on here tells us we must believe that Moses parted the Red Sea to establish the Israeli state.
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Is'nt it great to live in a country where we can joke about religion.I suppose Monty Pythons 'The Life Of Brian' led the way,in recent times at least.
Gosh,would'nt it be awful to be surrounded by backward people,so indoctrinated into their religion and its 7th century barbaric stories,that if they heard a joke about it,they would attempt to kill you in any old way.Gun,knife in the gizzards,beheading,run you over,bomb.Quite possibly rape you before that if you're a woman.
What kind of stupid mistake that would be, to allow those types into your country.🤔
Yep,we're lucky in the UK.
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Post by oldie on May 15, 2024 7:20:10 GMT
So Rwanda, a country that committed genocide, is safer than Libya which has terrorised their own people for decades. Who knew? Is that the appropriate comparison? I guess it is if anyone is blind, wearing an inverted balaclava and subjects themselves to blind prejudice. Meanwhile the poor people of Libya (we bombed them) are living a nightmare (we turn them away as refugees) and the poor people of Rwanda have to forget the atrocities we turned a blind eye to. Meanwhile someone on here tells us we must believe that Moses parted the Red Sea to establish the Israeli state. 😂😂😂 Have you any idea as to what is going on in Libya at the moment? You don't do you. Oh, and it wasn't the 'country' that committed genocide. It was tribal. You really should read and learn a bit more and shake off those entrenched views you have of the world. It seems as though you are the one being sucked in by the media. Are you aware the genocide was 30 years ago? Things have moved on since then. I do, but instead of inferring I don't, why don't you articulate what is "going on" in Libya? |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 15, 2024 7:57:23 GMT
Have you any idea as to what is going on in Libya at the moment? You don't do you. Oh, and it wasn't the 'country' that committed genocide. It was tribal. You really should read and learn a bit more and shake off those entrenched views you have of the world. It seems as though you are the one being sucked in by the media. Are you aware the genocide was 30 years ago? Things have moved on since then. I do, but instead of inferring I don't, why don't you articulate what is "going on" in Libya? Look at the link I provided earlier. It says about the EU/UN funding refugee camps in Rwanda, especially after migrant camps were bombed in Libya. If Rwanda is 'unsafe' why are the EU and UN both using it? Ireland has legally declared the UK to be 'unsafe'. Do you think the UK is 'unsafe'? |
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Post by oldie on May 15, 2024 8:30:42 GMT
I do, but instead of inferring I don't, why don't you articulate what is "going on" in Libya? Look at the link I provided earlier. It says about the EU/UN funding refugee camps in Rwanda, especially after migrant camps were bombed in Libya. If Rwanda is 'unsafe' why are the EU and UN both using it? Ireland has legally declared the UK to be 'unsafe'. Do you think the UK is 'unsafe'? Just to to zoom in on Libya are you referring to this? "Libya has been racked by internal divisions and intermittent civil conflict since a popular armed uprising in 2011 deposed longtime  Mu’ammar al-Qadhafi. International efforts to bring rival administrations together in a unity government succeeded in early 2021, creating a fragile peace. However, proliferation of weapons and autonomous militias, flourishing criminal networks, the interference of regional powers, and the presence of extremist groups have all contributed to the country’s persistent lack of physical security. More than a decade of violence has displaced hundreds of thousands of people, and human rights conditions have steadily deteriorated." That being the case, would a Libyan who ends up on the beaches of our south coast, qualify for refugee status in the UK? |
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Post by oldie on May 15, 2024 8:35:44 GMT
"Ireland has legally declared the UK to be 'unsafe'. Do you think the UK is 'unsafe'?
Because they do not believe, like our Supreme Court, that Rwanda is a safe country.
I did laugh out loud when the Courts in NI declared that some provisions of recent Immigration Bill cannot be applied in NI because of provisions in the "Windsor" agreement which in some passages transcribed the Good Friday Agreement.
Another Brexit bonus
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Post by Nobbygas on May 15, 2024 10:18:57 GMT
"Ireland has legally declared the UK to be 'unsafe'. Do you think the UK is 'unsafe'? Because they do not believe, like our Supreme Court, that Rwanda is a safe country. I did laugh out loud when the Courts in NI declared that some provisions of recent Immigration Bill cannot be applied in NI because of provisions in the "Windsor" agreement which in some passages transcribed the Good Friday Agreement. Another Brexit bonus 😂😂😂 No, you misunderstand. The UK and Irish courts did not declare that Rwanda and the UK are 'unsafe'. The 'unsafe' part comes from where the migrants may be sent to after Rwanda and the UK. It's all to do with where the migrants may be sent after which is the part the courts decided was 'unsafe'. Are you aware of what the Good Friday Agreement says about the border? "What does the Good Friday Agreement say about a hard border? A lot less than you might think. The only place in which it alludes to infrastructure at the border is in the section on security. During the Troubles there were heavily fortified army barracks, police stations and watchtowers along the border. They were frequently attacked by Republican paramilitaries. Part of the peace deal involved the UK government agreeing to a process of removing those installations in what became known as "demilitarisation". The agreement states that "the development of a peaceful environment... can and should mean a normalisation of security arrangements and practices." The government committed to "as early a return as possible to normal security arrangements in Northern Ireland, consistent with the level of threat". That included "the removal of security installations". That is as far as the text goes." BBC Good Friday AgreementWhat does the Good Friday Agreement say about asylum seekers? - Um, err....nothing. Once again, if Rwanda is ok for the UN and the EU, why is it no good for us to use? |
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Post by eppinggas on May 15, 2024 10:19:42 GMT
Palestinian watch. Update from Germany. Cities / towns visited: Mannheim, Karlsruhe, Heidelberg, Baden-Baden.
Palestinian protests: 0 (zero).
Palestinan flags: 0 (zero).
Conclusion. Hamas sympathisers would appear to be more prevalent in the UK.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 15, 2024 10:25:01 GMT
Palestinian watch. Update from Germany. Cities / towns visited: Mannheim, Karlsruhe, Heidelberg, Baden-Baden. Palestinian protests: 0 (zero). Palestinan flags: 0 (zero). Conclusion. Hamas sympathisers would appear to be more prevalent in the UK. That's because you were in the posh places! Go to places like Frankfurt, Hamburg, Offenbach and you'll see a different picture. I have to go to the Frankfurt area every six weeks. The week I am there I always receive security updates from my company telling me where to avoid the Palestinian demonstrations. In Germany, if you look, you'll find that every synagogue in the country has two Police officers stationed outside 24 hours a day. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 15, 2024 11:12:16 GMT
Palestinian watch. Update from Germany. Cities / towns visited: Mannheim, Karlsruhe, Heidelberg, Baden-Baden. Palestinian protests: 0 (zero). Palestinan flags: 0 (zero). Conclusion. Hamas sympathisers would appear to be more prevalent in the UK. That's because you were in the posh places! Go to places like Frankfurt, Hamburg, Offenbach and you'll see a different picture. I have to go to the Frankfurt area every six weeks. The week I am there I always receive security updates from my company telling me where to avoid the Palestinian demonstrations. In Germany, if you look, you'll find that every synagogue in the country has two Police officers stationed outside 24 hours a day. Fair enough - just reporting what I saw. In the posh places, of course. Mannhem and Karlsruhe fight for the title of '2nd city in Baden-Wurtemburg' (after Stuttgart). Maybe Stuttgart has it's fair share of hate marches? Further updates to follow next season, depending on availability of cheap flights to Germany from Stansted. |
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Post by oldie on May 15, 2024 11:20:52 GMT
"Ireland has legally declared the UK to be 'unsafe'. Do you think the UK is 'unsafe'? Because they do not believe, like our Supreme Court, that Rwanda is a safe country. I did laugh out loud when the Courts in NI declared that some provisions of recent Immigration Bill cannot be applied in NI because of provisions in the "Windsor" agreement which in some passages transcribed the Good Friday Agreement. Another Brexit bonus 😂😂😂 No, you misunderstand. The UK and Irish courts did not declare that Rwanda and the UK are 'unsafe'. The 'unsafe' part comes from where the migrants may be sent to after Rwanda and the UK. It's all to do with where the migrants may be sent after which is the part the courts decided was 'unsafe'. Are you aware of what the Good Friday Agreement says about the border? "What does the Good Friday Agreement say about a hard border? A lot less than you might think. The only place in which it alludes to infrastructure at the border is in the section on security. During the Troubles there were heavily fortified army barracks, police stations and watchtowers along the border. They were frequently attacked by Republican paramilitaries. Part of the peace deal involved the UK government agreeing to a process of removing those installations in what became known as "demilitarisation". The agreement states that "the development of a peaceful environment... can and should mean a normalisation of security arrangements and practices." The government committed to "as early a return as possible to normal security arrangements in Northern Ireland, consistent with the level of threat". That included "the removal of security installations". That is as far as the text goes." BBC Good Friday AgreementWhat does the Good Friday Agreement say about asylum seekers? - Um, err....nothing. Once again, if Rwanda is ok for the UN and the EU, why is it no good for us to use? "No, you misunderstand. The UK and Irish courts did not declare that Rwanda and the UK are 'unsafe'. The 'unsafe' part comes from where the migrants may be sent to after Rwanda and the UK. It's all to do with where the migrants may be sent after which is the part the courts decided was 'unsafe'" The Supreme Court decision "On the weight of evidence that the country was not safe, the Court held that it would be unlawful for the UK to send people to Rwanda." ukandeu.ac.uk/unpacking-the-supreme-courts-rwanda-decision/#:~:text=On%20the%20weight%20of%20evidence,to%20the%20law%20after%20Brexit. |
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Post by baselswh on May 15, 2024 13:35:39 GMT
For the record, Greta was amongst the antisemites in Malmo,for the European Song Contest.
She said 'it's wrong Israel are allowed in the show whilst committing' "genocide".
So Greta supports those that would see the end of Israel and Jews,then it would be the Christians turn.
She's been put up as a great example to kids all over the West.
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Post by baselswh on May 15, 2024 14:38:25 GMT
Sam Tarry, a Labour MP has spoken out that GB must take in Palestinians.
Comparison with Ukraine made.
It's our duty.
Etc.
Nothing about the risks we know about all to well of allowing antisemitic indoctrinated Muslim into our country.
Egypt don't want them,for fear of attacks on Israel,by these Palestinians from Egypt and possibly causing a world war.
Of the 300 or 400 Denmark welcomed,over 60% got criminal records in Denmark.
Our Jewish people have been insulted and frightened quite enough without welcoming more of theirs and our enemies to live amongst us.
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Post by oldie on May 15, 2024 20:38:44 GMT
To be honest
I am surprised that this torrent of ill considered, clearly prejudicial and abusive posts about some of a chosen faith are allowed to stand.
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Post by baselswh on May 15, 2024 20:44:08 GMT
It's no surprise that some try to stop others expressing their opinion.
It goes along with eg the threat to free speech ,where Islamists hope to make it a criminal offence to criticise Islam. Bizarrely backed by some right on non Muslims.Strange people.
We have to be on our guard.
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Mu’ammar al-Qadhafi. International efforts to bring rival administrations together in a unity government succeeded in early 2021, creating a fragile peace. However, proliferation of weapons and autonomous militias, flourishing criminal networks, the interference of regional powers, and the presence of extremist groups have all contributed to the country’s persistent lack of physical security. More than a decade of violence has displaced hundreds of thousands of people, and human rights conditions have steadily deteriorated."