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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 27, 2014 12:14:55 GMT
What credibility does Nick Higgs have
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Thatslife
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 27, 2014 12:17:38 GMT
Exactly right Gaz, because a few people on here dont like or respect N Higgs, doesnt mean its true for all Gasheads. I believe the sweeping statement in Buck Rippers article has for me, distroyed his objectiveness and thus that will be the last blog I read of his! That's silly Geoff. I always read people's posts and articles who I don't normally agree with as sometimes others can be right and you can be wrong. There is little point in using a forum if you can't or won't debate people's opinions and defend your own. You never know you might change your mind or get others to do the same. I have VOTE BRIAN!!!!!! Yes, Kevin, I maybe over reactioning but his artice tried to give the inpression that he was representing Gasheads when all he was doing was giving his own opinion, which he is fully entitled to do, what he not entitled to do is speak for others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:22:54 GMT
What credibility does Nick Higgs have That will return when he delivers the UWE
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Aug 27, 2014 12:31:57 GMT
What credibility does Nick Higgs have That will return when he delivers the UWE Well, that seems awfully doubtful at the moment, don't you think?
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Aug 27, 2014 12:32:54 GMT
That will return when he delivers the UWE Well, that seems awfully doubtful at the moment, don't you think? Switch it on...
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Aug 27, 2014 12:35:30 GMT
What credibility does Nick Higgs have That will return when he delivers the UWE he'd never have any credibility with me even if he led us to champions league victory after 10 consecutive premier league titles and builds the new Wembley for us an England to share. Unless of course he apologises for his erroneous statements and lapses in memory re who has contacted him recently and the status of Sainsbury's relationship as our partner and 'no reasons to suspect Mem wont go ahead at this moment in time' statements............... Even then my father told me never fully trust a woman who cheats on you and says she wont do it again
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Post by buckrippers on Aug 27, 2014 13:26:52 GMT
That's silly Geoff. I always read people's posts and articles who I don't normally agree with as sometimes others can be right and you can be wrong. There is little point in using a forum if you can't or won't debate people's opinions and defend your own. You never know you might change your mind or get others to do the same. I have VOTE BRIAN!!!!!! Yes, Kevin, I maybe over reactioning but his artice tried to give the inpression that he was representing Gasheads when all he was doing was giving his own opinion, which he is fully entitled to do, what he not entitled to do is speak for others. That's life, I am specifically talking about a depth of feeling among fans of being misled and cheated. It's not the delivery of bad news that's the problem, it is coming out with a statement just three days earlier telling everyone "Nothing to see here, everything is fine and dandy." He should have either told GT straight that there were big issues to overcome and that he couldn't give any cast-iron guarantees or he should have explained the situation there and then, rather than issue a statement three days later. To hide behind a legal wall when he has already said such things to Radio Bristol is a bit strange to say the least. I honestly don't think that I'm the one who has lost credibility here... I've tried to be as even handed as I can
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 13:40:42 GMT
Yes, Kevin, I maybe over reactioning but his artice tried to give the inpression that he was representing Gasheads when all he was doing was giving his own opinion, which he is fully entitled to do, what he not entitled to do is speak for others. That's life, I am specifically talking about a depth of feeling among fans of being misled and cheated. It's not the delivery of bad news that's the problem, it is coming out with a statement just three days earlier telling everyone "Nothing to see here, everything is fine and dandy." He should have either told GT straight that there were big issues to overcome and that he couldn't give any cast-iron guarantees or he should have explained the situation there and then, rather than issue a statement three days later. To hide behind a legal wall when he has already said such things to Radio Bristol is a bit strange to say the least. I honestly don't think that I'm the one who has lost credibility here... I've tried to be as even handed as I can Even that is only part of the problem. So we can all understand that communication and PR is not NH's forte.( I am being kind) The problem is, given the evidence before us, it is very hard to determine what is. That being the case, how can anyone have any faith that he can lead the club out of this mess, on and off the pitch. Anyone?
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Post by jozer on Aug 27, 2014 17:35:14 GMT
He doesn't need to go, or even step down as Chairman. All he has to do is get rid of that waster Phoni, replace him with a competant CEO and stand beck so they can get on with sorting this mess out.
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Post by axbridgetec on Aug 27, 2014 20:50:57 GMT
Even that is only part of the problem. So we can all understand that communication and PR is not NH's forte.( I am being kind) The problem is, given the evidence before us, it is very hard to determine what is. That being the case, how can anyone have any faith that he can lead the club out of this mess, on and off the pitch. Anyone? To be honest, in spite of his incompetence, I feel a little bit sorry for the guy - as happens in many a bad situation the bloke who puts his head above the parapet finds himself suddenly looking very much like Billy no mates. Its reasonable to ask what was Seymour-Smith doing when he was supposed to be representing fans? or for that matter any of the other directors who were supposed to be providing direction? All that said though - pity doth not make a success. I agree - with all this stadium mess its hard to genuinely see what exactly Higgs' forte is. I suppose he could say its his money that he is throwing away, which is true I suppose - but its our club. If all this stuff the board churn out about "we are the biggest fans" is true - then hopefully they'll stand by that and be prepared to lose a lot of money and step aside in a bid to let some real leaders have a go.
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Post by thecyclist on Aug 27, 2014 21:32:26 GMT
"... His credibility has gone with fans, unfortunately." Don't speak for everyone!!! Are you judging this by asking the majority of the 5,500 crowd on Saturday, or 20 odd blokes moaning constantly on a forum? Well if you can find a still open phone box somewhere in BS7 then organise a meeting of the chairman's supporters because I'm sure you'll all fit in there.
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Post by gaschamber on Aug 27, 2014 22:06:21 GMT
I think Higgs probably should step down. But is it me, or does this bloke that does this blog just read the forum and condense the general sentiment into a few thousand words? I wonder if he gets paid for this blog by the post? If so, we could all be journalists, some should learn to spell first i guess, lol, but not exactly ground breaking is it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 22:57:37 GMT
whatever the merits of mr higgs for at least 30 years the big supermarkets would jump of a chance to build a store on the mem site but recent shopping trends and aldi/lidl gains has very quickly changed the rules of the game and i think the chairman has been very unlucky in this respect
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Post by zfc on Aug 27, 2014 23:19:38 GMT
Even that is only part of the problem. So we can all understand that communication and PR is not NH's forte.( I am being kind) The problem is, given the evidence before us, it is very hard to determine what is. That being the case, how can anyone have any faith that he can lead the club out of this mess, on and off the pitch. Anyone? To be honest, in spite of his incompetence, I feel a little bit sorry for the guy - as happens in many a bad situation the bloke who puts his head above the parapet finds himself suddenly looking very much like Billy no mates. Its reasonable to ask what was Seymour-Smith doing when he was supposed to be representing fans? or for that matter any of the other directors who were supposed to be providing direction? All that said though - pity doth not make a success. I agree - with all this stadium mess its hard to genuinely see what exactly Higgs' forte is. I suppose he could say its his money that he is throwing away, which is true I suppose - but its our club. If all this stuff the board churn out about "we are the biggest fans" is true - then hopefully they'll stand by that and be prepared to lose a lot of money and step aside in a bid to let some real leaders have a go. For me it is impossible to feel sorry for Nick Higgs taking into account the way he has conducted himself since become chairman of Bristol Rovers. The man is a complete and utter embarrassment to Bristol Rovers and the sooner he leaves the better he is a classic example to all prospective chairman of any club on how to do everything wrong and continue doing everything wrong. GasheadGaz must be his son or a close friend, if he isn`t then he is a complete and utter moron for continuing to back this man who in football club running terms is a complete and utter loser of the highest calibre.
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Post by jozer on Aug 28, 2014 7:28:54 GMT
whatever the merits of mr higgs for at least 30 years the big supermarkets would jump of a chance to build a store on the mem site but recent shopping trends and aldi/lidl gains has very quickly changed the rules of the game and i think the chairman has been very unlucky in this respect They were also 'unlucky' with the economic squeeze that caused OPAL to pull out. Let's face it Rovers have a history of being 'unlucky' in this way, and when you look at what Phoni has to say on the subject of contingency planning you can see why. You make your own luck by being well organised and ready to grab any opportunity that comes along, and the shambolic BRFC are a textbook case of how not to organise yourselves to be ready to exploit an opportunity. Both the OPAL and sainsburys projects were based on the market being exactly right to pull them off. Any change in the markets (and markets change all the time) was only going to make them considerably less viable. One thing that ROSE/TRASH have sussed is that to scupper a Rovers development you only have to delay it for long enough and it will collapse on its own vulnerability. The latest failure has not come as any suprise to me at all. It's not about this planning permission or that housing market. It's about the basic fact that the BoD want someone else to buy them a new stadium, and pay off their loans in to the bargain. The only real asset BRFC have ever held is the free pass they were handed when the rugger buggers went under and we got their half of the stadium at a knock-down- a £1,500,000 asset for £100,000 if I recall correctly, and that free money has long since been swallowed up in to the black hole of shambolic arrogant incompetance that is BRFC.
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 28, 2014 9:57:31 GMT
whatever the merits of mr higgs for at least 30 years the big supermarkets would jump of a chance to build a store on the mem site but recent shopping trends and aldi/lidl gains has very quickly changed the rules of the game and i think the chairman has been very unlucky in this respect They were also 'unlucky' with the economic squeeze that caused OPAL to pull out. Let's face it Rovers have a history of being 'unlucky' in this way, and when you look at what Phoni has to say on the subject of contingency planning you can see why. You make your own luck by being well organised and ready to grab any opportunity that comes along, and the shambolic BRFC are a textbook case of how not to organise yourselves to be ready to exploit an opportunity. Both the OPAL and sainsburys projects were based on the market being exactly right to pull them off. Any change in the markets (and markets change all the time) was only going to make them considerably less viable. One thing that ROSE/TRASH have sussed is that to scupper a Rovers development you only have to delay it for long enough and it will collapse on its own vulnerability. The latest failure has not come as any suprise to me at all. It's not about this planning permission or that housing market. It's about the basic fact that the BoD want someone else to buy them a new stadium, and pay off their loans in to the bargain. The only real asset BRFC have ever held is the free pass they were handed when the rugger buggers went under and we got their half of the stadium at a knock-down- a £1,500,000 asset for £100,000 if I recall correctly, and that free money has long since been swallowed up in to the black hole of shambolic arrogant incompetance that is BRFC. Actually it was £10,000 so that makes it even worse but you are also right, rarely in this world do you get anything for nothing..... what an absolute mess and nightmare this has all become.
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Post by buckrippers on Aug 28, 2014 10:31:30 GMT
I think Higgs probably should step down. But is it me, or does this bloke that does this blog just read the forum and condense the general sentiment into a few thousand words? I wonder if he gets paid for this blog by the post? If so, we could all be journalists, some should learn to spell first i guess, lol, but not exactly ground breaking is it? Why don't you do one then? I don't get paid for it and neither will you but if it's so easy you might as well have a go. Just contact James McNamara who asked for Rovers bloggers a while ago. He'll sort you out.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Aug 28, 2014 10:36:30 GMT
I think Higgs probably should step down. But is it me, or does this bloke that does this blog just read the forum and condense the general sentiment into a few thousand words? I wonder if he gets paid for this blog by the post? If so, we could all be journalists, some should learn to spell first i guess, lol, but not exactly ground breaking is it? Why don't you do one then? I don't get paid for it and neither will you but if it's so easy you might as well have a go. Just contact James McNamara who asked for Rovers bloggers a while ago. He'll sort you out. I really don't see the problem if buckrippers blog reflects a number of posts on here. By publishing in the post, it brings the issues to a wider audience. That's not to say I agree with everything written, but it is pretty entertaining and I appreciate his effort in doing it.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 28, 2014 10:49:11 GMT
Some people in the club complain that the forums do not represent the views of the "majority" of fans. Publishing thoughts in the blogs in the Post allows the wider audience to understand what the forums are thinking. The more people who express views the better, but don't expect a revolution of change.....
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Post by eagas on Aug 28, 2014 11:49:31 GMT
I actually have sympahty with Nick. Looking at the planning issues still surrounding the UWE, some of these measures are simply out of his control. He is probably right when he says the contract is watertight, if it is not watertight then the lawyers representing the club are accountable.
the only slights I would have at Nick would be the managers we have gone through in the last 6 years, we could all see the downward spiral we were heading towards, but us fans are as bad as the board, a year ago wardy was the messiah and HAD to be kept on past the end of the season. I still believe that Trolls should have been given longer, but accept I am in the minority on this one and that football does not allow managers to make mistakes at the same club and learn from them. I also dont understand why the board would turn away potential investors?
We are also in the conference because managers in the past three seasons have brought below standard players on big contracts to the club who are not good enough
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